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Testimony of Channah (Pinchover) Uhrbach, born in Breslau, Germany, 1918, regarding her experiences in Cologne, Berlin, Breslau, her aliya to Eretz Israel, 1939 and more

Testimony
ืฉื ื”ืžืจื•ืื™ื™ื ืช: ื—ื ื” ืื•ืจื‘ืš
ืฉื ื”ืžืจืื™ื™ื ืช: ื“ื™ื ื” ืฉืคื˜
ืชืืจื™ืš ื”ืจืื™ื•ืŸ: ื™"ื– ื‘ืื“ืจ ื‘' ืชืฉืก"ื— โ€“ 24.03.08; 31.03.08; 10.04.08
ืฉื ื”ืžื“ืคื™ืกื”: ื‘ืชื™ื” ืฉื˜ื”ืœ
ืฉืžื•ืช ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช:
Breslau
Moravska-Ostrava
Koeln
ื”ื™ื•ื ื™"ื– ื‘ืื“ืจ ื‘', ืชืฉืก"ื—, ื”ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืœื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืžืจืฅ ืฉื ืช 2008. ืื ื™ ื“ื™ื ื” ืฉืคื˜ ืžืจืื™ื™ื ืช ืžื˜ืขื ื™ื“-ื•ืฉื ืืช ื’ื‘ืจืช ื—ื ื” ืื•ืจื‘ืš ื™ืœื™ื“ืช ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื•ื”ื™ื ืชืกืคืจ ืœื ื• ืขืœ ื—ื™ื™ื” ืขื“ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืœืฉืœื˜ื•ืŸ ื•ืขืœ ื—ื™ื™ื” ืœืื—ืจ-ืžื›ืŸ.
ืฉ: ื—ื ื”, ืชืกืคืจื™ ืœื™ ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ื ื•ืช ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื ื•ืžื•ืงื“ืžื™ื ืžื™ืœื“ื•ืชืš, ื›ืฉืืช ืžื–ื›ื™ืจื” ืืช ื‘ื ื™ ืžืฉืคื—ืชืš. ืื ื ื”ื–ื›ื™ืจื™ ืื•ืชื ื‘ืฉืžื•ืชื™ื”ื ื”ืžืœืื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื ื’ื ืžืฆื‘ืช ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ืŸ.
ืช: ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื ื•ืœื“ืชื™ ื‘-1918, ืื™ื–ื” ืืจื‘ืขื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ืœืคื ื™ ื’ืžืจ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”. ื”ื•ืจื™, ืื‘ื™ ืื“ื•ืœืฃ ืื‘ืจื”ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืคื™ื ืฆ'ื•ื‘ืจ ื•ืื™ืžื™ ืœื•ื˜ื” ืคื™ื ืฆ'ื•ื‘ืจ. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืื ื™ ื ื•ืœื“ืชื™ ืื‘ื™ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฆื‘ื ืฉืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื‘ืฆื‘ื ืฉืœ ื”ืงื™ืกืจ ื•ื™ืœื”ืœื ื›ืจื•ืคื ื‘ื—ื–ื™ืช ื”ืžื–ืจื—ื™ืช. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื–ื” ื”ืฉืคืขื” ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ืช, ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจืื™ื ื™ืงื™ื, ืœื ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื˜ื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืžื–ืจื— ืื™ืจื•ืคื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื‘ืžื’ืข ืงืจื•ื‘ ืขื ื”ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ ื•ื‘ืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ื‘ืœื˜ื™ื•ืช โ€“ ื‘ืœื™ื˜ื, ื‘ืœื˜ื‘ื™ื” ื•ื›ื•'. ืื ื™ ื ื•ืœื“ืชื™ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืžืžื ื™, ื•ื ืฉืืจืชื™ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื”.
ืฉ: ืชื’ื™ื“ื™ ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื” ืืช ืฉืžื•ืชื™ื”ื.
ืช: ืชื™ืื• ืžืชื™ืชื™ื”ื• ื•ืœื•ื“ื•ื•ื™ื’ ืืœื™ืขื–ืจ ืคื™ื ืฆ'ื•ื‘ืจ. ืื—ื“ ื ื•ืœื“ ืœืคื ื™ ืžืœื—ืžื” ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ื•ื”ืฉื ื™ ื ื•ืœื“ ืชื•ืš ื›ื“ื™ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”. ื”ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช, ื“ืชื™, ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ืžืฉื›ื™ืœ ื‘ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื•ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื›ืœืœื™ืช ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกืืœื™ืช. ื’ื ืื™ืžื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืฉื›ื™ืœื”. ื”ื™ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื”ื™ื• ื—ืœืง ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืื•ืชื” ืฉื›ื‘ื” ืžืฉื›ื™ืœื”, ื•ื”ื™ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ื™ื. ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื’ื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื•ื’ื ื“ืชื™ื™ื, ืฉื”ื™ื” ืืฆืœื ื• ืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจืื™ื ื”ื™ื•ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืฆื™ื•ืจื™ ืืจื•ืŸ ืกืคืจื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื”ื™ื” ืืจื•ืŸ ืกืคืจื™ื. ื”ื™ื• ืืจื•ื ื•ืช ืกืคืจื™ื ืœืกืคืจื•ืช, ืœืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื”, ืœืื•ืžื ื•ืช ื•ื”ื™ื” ืืจื•ืŸ ืœืกืคืจื•ืช ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ื’ื ืกืคืจื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื—ื“ืฉื” ืžื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื‘ื™ ืงื ื”, ืื•ืžื ื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืขืฉืจื™ื, ืืช ื”ืกืคืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ืื—ื“ ื”ืขื, ืขื’ื ื•ืŸ ื•ื‘ื™ืืœื™ืง, ื›ืš ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืžื—ืœืง ืžื”ื ืืช ื”ื”ื•ืฆืื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื˜ื— ืžืชื•ืจื’ืžื™ื?
ืช: ืœื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช.
ืฉ: ืื‘ื ื™ื“ืข ืœืงืจื•ื ืขื‘ืจื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ื ื™ื“ืข ืœืงืจื•ื ืขื‘ืจื™ืช.
ืฉ: ืื™ืคื” ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช?
ืช: ื”ื•ื ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ื’ื“ืœ ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื‘ืขื™ืจ ืงื˜ื ื” ื‘ืฉืœื–ื™ื” ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ื“ ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ืžื•ื“ื’ืฉืช. ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื”, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื’ื ื—ื•ืžืฉ ื•ื’ืžืจื ืžืžืฉ. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื–ืžื ื• ืฉืœ ื”ืจืฆืœ, ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ ืœืจืคื•ืื”, ืขืœ-ื›ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข ืœื ืœื“ื‘ืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืœืงืจื•ื. ืื•ืžื ื ื‘ืื•ืชื” ื”ื”ื•ืฆืื”, ื ื’ื™ื“ ื‘ื”ื•ืฆืื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื”ืžื•ื“ืคืกืช ืฉืœ ื”ืกืคืจ ื•"ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขืงื•ื‘ ืœืžื™ืฉื•ืจ" ืฉืœ ืขื’ื ื•ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืจืฉื ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ืžืขืœ ืœืžื™ืœื” ื”ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ืžื™ืœื” ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื•ื ื—ื™ืคืฉ ื‘ืžื™ืœื•ืŸ.
ืฉ: ื–ืืช ืื•ืžืจืช, ืฉื”ื•ื ืงืจื ืืช ืขื’ื ื•ืŸ ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืžืื•ื“ ืื”ื‘ ืืช ื–ื”, ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืงืจื. ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื ืงืœ ื‘ื–ืžื ื• ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื•, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœืงื— ืžื™ืœื•ืŸ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ื›ืœ, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื™ื™ืงืŸ.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ืื‘ื™ืš ื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืก, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืœื”ื™ื™ื ื”?
ืช: ื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ืื•ืชื•, ื•ื›ื™ ืœื? ืืช ื’ืชื”, ืืช ื”ื™ื™ื ื” ื•ืœื ืจืง ืื•ืชื, ืืœื ื’ื ืืช ืงืœื™ื™ืกื˜ ื•ื›ืŸ ื’ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ืฉืœื™ื™ืžืื›ื” ืื• ื‘ืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื•ื’ื ืื•ืžื ื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื•ืžื ื•ืช ืคืœืกื˜ื™ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ, ื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”, ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ืžืœื ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืื”ื‘ ืœืฉื™ืจ, ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืœืงื— ืืคื™ืœื• ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ื‘ืคื™ืชื•ื— ืงื•ืœ. ืืฆืœื ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืคืกื ืชืจ ื‘ื™ื›ืฉื˜ื™ื™ืŸ, ืฉื–ื” ืคืกื ืชืจ ื›ื ืฃ ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘, ื•ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื”ื•ื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืืฉืจ ืกื˜ื™ื™ื ื•ื•ื™. ืื‘ื ืฉืจ, ื‘ืื• ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืจื™ ืœื ื’ืŸ, ื•ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ื™ืžื™ ื”ื—ื•ืจืฃ ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืื—ืจื™-ื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืืฆืœื ื• ืžืžืฉ ืจื‘ื™ืขื™ื•ืช ืื• ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ื•ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช. ื›ืš ื’ื“ืœื ื• ืขื ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”, ืฉืจื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื”. ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื’ื ืžืื•ื“ ื”ืชืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ ื˜ื‘ืข ื•ืœื ืจืง ืžื”ืฆื“ ื”ืจืคื•ืื™, ืืœื, ื’ื ืžื”ืฆื“ ื”ืื—ืจ. ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžื ื•ื™ื™ื ืขืœ ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžื’ื–ื™ืŸ, ืืœื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžื’ื–ื™ืŸ, ื ื’ื™ื“ ืžื“ืข ืคื•ืคื•ืœืืจื™, ื›ืžื• ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ ื’ืœื™ืœืื•, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื ืงืจื ืงื•ืกืžื•ืก, ื•ื›ืœ ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื–ื” ื”ื’ื™ืข. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืžืืžืจื™ื ื•ืชืžื•ื ื•ืช, ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื›ืžื• ื”ื™ื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืชืžื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉื™ื“ืขื• ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ืื ื—ื ื• ื˜ื™ื™ืœื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื”, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ืงื™ืฅ. ืœื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืคืจื ืกื”, ื•ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ื”ืฉืงื™ืขื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื•ืœื—ื™ื ื•ืš.
ืฉ: ืื‘ื ืฉื™ืจืช ื›ืจื•ืคื ื‘ืฆื‘ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ื ืฉื™ืจืช ื›ืจื•ืคื ื‘ืฆื‘ื ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื“ืจืžื˜ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืจื•ืคื ืขื•ืจ.
ืฉ: ื•ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืคืฆื™ื™ื ื˜ื™ื ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื?
ืช: ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืคืฆื™ื™ื ื˜ื™ื ืฉืœื• ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืืœื, ื”ื™ื• ืกืชื ื’ื•ื™ื™ื ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืžืฉื›ื‘ื•ืช ืขืžืžื™ื•ืช. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืืช ืฉืืœืช ื›ืš, ืืช ืฉืืœืช ืขืœ ื”ื™ื—ืก ื•ื”ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœื ื• ืœืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ื›ืืŸ ืœื”ืคืจื™ื“ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืฉื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื•ืžื™ื•ืžื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื, ื ืกืขื ื• ื‘ืื•ืชื” ื”ื—ืฉืžืœื™ืช ื ื’ื™ื“, ื•ืงื ื™ื ื• ื‘ืื•ืชืŸ ื”ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช, ืฉื—ืœืง ืžื”ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื•ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื ื›ืžื• ื‘ื ื™-ืื“ื ืื—ืจื™ื. ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ืชืจื‘ื•ืช, ืื ื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืืžืจืชื™, ื”ืฉืคื” ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื” ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื’ื ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ืงืคื™ื“ื• ืขืœ ื–ื”. ื ื’ื™ื“ ืื ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืฉื’ื™ืื”, ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืชื™ืงื ื•, ื›ื™ ืื”ื‘ื•, ืฉืคื” ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉืคื” ืœื ืžืขื•ืจื‘ืช ืขื ืกืœื ื’ ืื• ืžื™ืœื™ื ื–ืจื•ืช ืืœื ืฉืคื” ืžืชื•ืงื ืช. ืงืจืื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกืคืจื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช. ืจื•ื‘ ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืฉื‘ืื• ืืœ ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืื ื™ืฉืืœื• ืื•ืชื™ ืื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช, ืื– ืื’ื™ื“: ืœื! ืžื” ืคื™ืจื•ืฉ ืœื? ืื ืื ื™ ืฉื•ืืœืช ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ื”ื™ื•ื, ื”ืื ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื™ื“ื™ื“ื™ื ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ื’ื•ื™ื™ื? ืœื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื• ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื›ื ื™ื ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื’ืจื ื• ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ื”ืขื™ืจ, ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื•ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื‘ืกื“ืจ.
ืฉ: ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ื–ืืช ืื•ืžืจืช, ืฉืืช ืœืžืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืงืจืช ื‘ื‘ืชื™ื”ื?
ืช: ืœื, ื–ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™ ืฉื›ื ื•ืช. ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืจื™ื‘, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื•ืช, ืœื ืฉืžืขืชื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืœ ืงืจื‘ื”. ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืืฆืœื ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉืชื•ืช ื™ื—ื“ ืงืคื”, ื–ื” ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืื—ื“.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื›ืŸ?
ืช: ืœื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื ืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ืžื•ืจื” ืœื›ื™ื ื•ืจ ืฉืœ ืื—ื™, ื•ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื™ื’ืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ื’ืŸ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™, ื•ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ื›ื” ืื– ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื›ืคื™ ืฉืกื™ืคืจืชื™, ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ืจื‘ื™ืขื™ื•ืช ืžื™ืชืจื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื ืจ ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ืกืชื ื—ื•ื‘ื‘ืŸ, ืืœื, ื”ื•ื ื‘ืืžืช ื™ื“ืข ื˜ื•ื‘, ื•ื–ื” ื”ืขืœื” ืืช ื”ืจืžื”. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื‘ืจืฆื•ืŸ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื™ืฉื‘ ืื™ืชื ื•, ืื–, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืฉืชื” ื›ื•ืก ืงืคื” ื•ืื›ืœ ืคืจื•ืกืช ืขื•ื’ื”. ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื, ื‘ื” ื‘ืฉืขื” ืฉืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช ื›ืŸ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ืช ื›ืŸ ื•ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื—ื™ื™ ื™ื•ืžื™ื•ื ื›ืŸ. ื”ืœื›ื ื• ื ื’ื™ื“ ืœืžืชืงื ื™ ืกืคื•ืจื˜ ื›ืœืœื™ื™ื, ืื• ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื•ืžื™ื•ืžื™ื™ื, ื•ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื• ืืช ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื“ ื›ื“ื™ ื›ืš ืื•ืœื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื’ื ืฉื•ืžืจื™ ืžืฆื•ื•ืช. ืื– ืฉื‘ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื‘ืช, ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ื›ืฉืจ, ื•ืœื ืื›ืœื ื• ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืืฆืœ ืื ืฉื™ื, ืœื›ืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ, ื•ื–ื” ืžืชื•ืš ื”ืชื‘ื•ื ื ื•ืช, ืฉืจื•ื‘ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื’ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื“ืชื™ื™ื ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื™ื, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืœื ื”ืฉื›ื‘ื•ืช ื”ืจื—ื‘ื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื”ื™ื• ืงืฆืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื“ืื™ ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ืืœื” ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื™ื, ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืœ ืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช, ืื• ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืื•ืœื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื’ื ืขื ื—ื‘ืจื™ื”ื. ืื ื›ื™ ืื– ืืžืจื• ื”ืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช, ื‘ืฆื“ืง ืืžืจื•, ืฉื›ื™ื“ื•ืข ื”ืื—ื•ื– ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช, ื‘ืื•ืžื ื•ืช ื•ื‘ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื•ื– ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืืฉืจ ื”ืื—ื•ื– ืฉืœื”ื ื‘ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื”, ื•ืœื›ืŸ ืฉื ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™, ืงืฉืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ืื‘ื ืฉืœื™, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื”ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ื ื’ื™ื“ ืœื”ืชืงื“ื ืขื ื”ืจืคื•ืื”, ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ื›ืœ ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื’ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืื™ ืฉื—ืœืง ืฉืœ ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœืœื™. ืื‘ื ื”ืœืš ืœืฉื ืคืขื ื‘ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื›ืฉื”ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืฉืœ ืื•ืชื” ืžื—ืœืงื” ืขืฉื” ื”ื“ืจื›ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉืชืชืฃ ื‘ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืขืžื•ื“ ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื—ื“ืฉื™ื. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื•ื ื™ื™ืŸ, ืžื” ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื“ืจื•ืฉ, ืฉื‘ืจืคื•ืื” ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ืคืกื™ืง ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืขื ื’ืžืจ ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ืืœื ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“. ื›ืš ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืžื ื•ื™, ืฉื›ืœ ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ื›ืžื” ื›ืชื‘ื™ ืขืช ืฉืœ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืœื”ื—ืœืคื”, ื•ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืื—ืจื™ื, ื›ืš ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉื ื™ื ืจื‘ื•ืช. ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืื‘ื ื’ื ืื”ื‘ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš, ื”ื–ื›ืจืชื™ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ื˜ื‘ืข. ืœื ืจืง ืฉืขืฉื™ื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื˜ื™ื•ืœื™ื, ืืœื ื”ืกืชื›ืœื ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ, ื•ืœืžื“ื ื• ืขืœ ืคืจื—ื™ื ื•ืขืœ ื—ื™ื•ืช. ืื‘ื, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื”ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ืฆื™ืคื•ืจื™ื, ื•ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื™ืœื“ื” ื”ื™ื” ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ืงื ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ ื‘ืืจื‘ืข ืื• ืžืฉื”ื•, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉืชืชืฃ ืขื ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ื›ืžื• ื›ืืŸ, ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœ ื—ื•ื‘ื‘ื™ ื”ื˜ื‘ืข, ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœื›ืช ืœื™ืขืจ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืืช ื”ืฆื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื›ืฉื”ืŸ ืžืชืขื•ืจืจื•ืช, ื•ืœื”ื›ื™ืจ ืืช...
ืฉ: ืืช ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืžื”ืฉื›ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ืื‘ื ืฉืœืš ื”ื•ืฉืคืขื• ืžื”ืชื ื•ืขื” ื”ืจื•ืžื ื˜ื™ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช?
ืช: ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืกืคืง ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืฉืคืขื”. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ืฉืœ ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื, ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช, ืฉืงืจืื• ืœื–ื” ืงื™ืคืื•ื ื“. ื–ื” ื›ืฉืœืขืฆืžื• ื”ื™ื”, ืื ืฉื•ืืœื™ื ืื•ืชื™, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื‘ืžืงื‘ื™ืœ ืœื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืฆื“ืง, ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืฆื“ืง, ืฉื”ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉื• ืืช ืขืฆืžื ื‘ื”ื“ื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืœืื•ืžื ื™ื•ืช, ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘. ื“ืจืš ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืื—ืจืช, ืœื ืจืง ืžื™ ืฉืื›ืœ ื›ืฉืจ, ืืœื ื’ื ืœื ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื”ืคื˜ืจื™ื•ื˜ื™ืช ืฉืื‘ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ. ืื‘ื ื”ืœืš ืœืžืœื—ืžื”, ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื—ื•ืง, ืื‘ืœ ืžืชื•ืš ื–ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืืช ืขืฆืžื• ื›ืื–ืจื—, ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืฉื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืœื›ืช ืœื”ื’ืŸ ืขืœ ื”ืืจืฅ ืฉื‘ื” ืืชื” ื—ื™, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆื™ื•ื ื™. ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ืงืฉืจ ืืœ ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ื’ืจืžื ื™ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ื”ื“ื’ืฉื” ืœืื•ืžื™ืช ืื• ืœืื•ืžื ื™ืช ืžื•ื“ื’ืฉืช, ื”ืŸ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืฉืงืคืช ืขื•ืœื ื•ื”ืŸ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ื–ืจื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช. ื’ื ืื ืจื•ื‘ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ื‘ื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื”, ืœืคื™ ื”ื‘ื ืชื™. ืืช ืฉืืœืช ืขืœ ื”ืชื ื•ืขื” ื”ืจื•ืžื ื˜ื™ืช, ืื– ื–ื” ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื™ื“ื•ืข, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื›ืžื• ื”ืฆื•ืคื™ื ื•ื”ืกืงืื•ื˜ืก ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื•ื•ืื ื“ืจืคื•ื’ืœ. ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœืช ื”ืžืื” ื”ืขืฉืจื™ื ื”ื ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื‘ืœืื•-ื•ื™ื™ืก โ€“ ืชื›ืœืช ืœื‘ืŸ, ื•ืื™ืžื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ื›ื‘ืจ ื—ื‘ืจื”. ืœืื™ืžื™ ื”ื™ื• ืื—ื•ืช ื•ืฉื ื™ ืื—ื™ื, ืฉื’ื ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื‘ืœืื•-ื•ื•ื™ื™ืก, ื•ืฉื ื˜ื™ืคื—ื• ืงืฉืจ ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ืงืฆืช ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™, ืื‘ืœ ืฉืจื• ืฉื ืงืฆืช ืฉื™ืจื™ื ืขื‘ืจื™ื™ื. ื‘ืœื™ ืกืคืง, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืืŸ ื”ืฉืคืขื” ืฉืœ ื”ื•ื•ืื ื“ืจืคื•ื’ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืœื™ ื”ื’ื•ื•ืŸ ื”ืœืื•ืžื™ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ ื•ืขืœ ืจืžื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช ืื•ืœื™ ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื‘ืืงื“ืžื™ื” ืื•, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื‘ื ื™ื, ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ืื– ืขื•ื“ ืœื ืœืžื“ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ื–ื” ืœืงื— ื–ืžืŸ. ื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื”.
ืฉ: ื”ื˜ื™ื•ืœื™ื ืฉืœื›ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื•ืš ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”?
ืช: ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ืžื• ืฉืืžืจืชื™, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื, ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื ืกืขื ื• ืจื—ื•ืง. ื ืกืขื ื• ืขื ืจื›ื‘ืช ืขื“ ืœืžืงื•ื ืงืจื•ื‘ ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”, ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื™ืฉื•ืจื™ืช ืื‘ืœ ื™ืคื”, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ืขืจื•ืช ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื”ื ื”ืจ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ืื•ื“ืจ ื’ื ืขื ื™ื•ื‘ืœื™ื. ืื ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื ืกืขื ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืื– ื ืกืขื ื• ืœื”ืจื™ื ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจื™ื–ืŸ ื’ื™ื‘ืจื’ื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ืกื•ื“ื˜ื™ื, ืฉืืช ื–ื” ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื‘ืงื™ืฅ. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื ืกืขื ื• ื‘ืงื™ืฅ ืœืฉื‘ื•ืขื™ื™ื ืื• ืฉืœื•ืฉื”, ืื– ืœื ื ืกืขื ื• ืœืคื ืกื™ื•ืŸ, ืืœื, ืฉื›ืจื ื• ืฉื ื™ ื—ื“ืจื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืงื˜ืŸ, ื‘ื‘ืงืชื” ืคื—ื•ืช ืื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœ ืื™ื›ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื”ืจื™ื, ื‘ื™ืฉืœื ื• ืœืขืฆืžื ื•, ื˜ื™ื™ืœื ื•, ื•ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ื‘ื ื—ืœื™ื ืื• ื‘ื™ืขืจื•ืช. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื—ื•ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืžืฉืคื™ืขื•ืช ืขืœื™ ืขื“ ื”ื™ื•ื โ€“ ืงืจื‘ื” ืœื˜ื‘ืข, ืื”ื‘ืช ื”ื˜ื‘ืข ื•ืื”ื‘ืช ื”ื™ืขืจื•ืช. ื›ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื ื•ืคื™ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื”ื™ืขืจื•ืช ื”ื ืฉืžื•ืฉื›ื™ื ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ. ืื– ื’ื ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ, ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืœ ื™ืขืจ, ื–ื” ืžืฆื™ืช ืื•ืชื™.
ืฉ: ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืื‘ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืชืกืคืจื™ ืงืฆืช ื’ื ืขืœ ืื™ืžื. ืžืื™ื–ื• ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืื•ืœื™, ื•ื›ืžื” ื“ื•ืจื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ื”ืืœื”?
ืช: ืื™ืžื ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื•ืœื“ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืื‘ื ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘ืงืจื‘ืช ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื‘ืขื™ืจ ืงื˜ื ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ืงื˜ื ื”.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืฉื ื”ืžืงื•ื?
ืช: ืจื˜ื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ื–ื” ืฉืœื–ื™ื” ืขื™ืœื™ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืคื™ ืืžืจืชื™, ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช ืžืฆื“ ืื—ื“ ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืงื˜ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื•ืœื™, ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื•ืฉืจืฉืช ื‘ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืงื•ื“ืžืช ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ื”ื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช. ื›ื™, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉืื‘ื ืœืžื“ ื’ืžืจื ืžื’ื™ืœ ืฆืขื™ืจ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืžืฆื•ื™ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืžื” ื”ื™ื”? ื‘ื—ื•ืจื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื‘ืื• ืžื”ื•ื ื’ืจื™ื” ืื• ืžืกืœื•ื‘ืงื™ื”, ื•ืจืฆื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื›ืกืฃ, ืื– ื”ื ืขื‘ืจื• ืžืงื”ื™ืœื” ืœืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื•ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืงืจื”, ืืช ื–ื” ืื‘ื ืกื™ืคืจ, ืฉืื™ื–ื” ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ื ืฉืืจ ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉื ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืกื‘ืชื, ื”ืกื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื ืกื•ืข ื”ืจื‘ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืคืจื ืก ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ืฉืžื•ื ื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื. ืื– ืžื” ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื”? ื”ืกื‘ืชื ื“ืื’ื” ืœื‘ื—ื•ืจ, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ืืช ื”ื‘ื ื™ื ื’ืžืจื, ืœืžืฉืœ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืกื‘ื ืžืฆื“ ืื‘ื. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืื™ืžื, ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื•ืœื“ื” ื‘ืขื™ืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื– ืขื™ืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื•ื ื”ื™ื ืœื ื ืงืจืืช ืขื™ืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืื– ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืขื™ืจ ื”ืฉื™ืฉื™ืช ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœื”, ื›ืืฉืจ ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืžืืฉืจ ื›ืœ ื”ืขืจื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ืช, ืืคื™ืœื• ืžืืฉืจ ื”ืžื‘ื•ืจื’ ืฉื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื“ื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืงืœืŸ (Koeln) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื•ื’ื ืžื™ื ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ืื‘ืœ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช, ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ืช ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœื”. ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืคืจื ืงืคื•ืจื˜ ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืคืจื ืงืคื•ืจื˜ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืขื™ืจ ืงื˜ื ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ื™ื•ื ื”ื™ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื™ืจ ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช ืžืื•ื“, ื›ื™ ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ืฉื ื” ื•ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“. ื”ื™ื•ื ื›ื™ื“ื•ืข ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืืœื, ื”ื™ื ื•ื•ืจื•ืฆืœื‘ ืžืื– ืื—ืจื™ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืฉื ื™ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ืกื•ืคื—ื” ืœืคื•ืœื™ืŸ. ืœืคื™ ื”ื’ื‘ื•ืœ, ืื•ื“ืจ ื–ื” ื”ื ื”ืจ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ื•ื ื™ื™ืกื” ื–ื” ืื—ื“ ืžืŸ ื”ื™ื•ื‘ืœื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ืจื—ื•ืง ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื”ืกื›ื ืื—ืจื™ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืฉื ื™ื”. ื‘ืžืฉืš ื”ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื”, ืžื™ืžื™ ื”ื‘ื™ื ื™ื™ื ื•ืขื“ ืœืžืื” ื”ืขืฉืจื™ื, ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช, ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ืช ื•ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื–ืžื ื™ ื•ื’ื ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืœ ืื™ืžื ืฉืœื™, ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื•ืœื“ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืœื ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื ืืคื™ืœื• ืคืขื ืื—ืช ืžื™ืœื” ืื—ืช ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืœื ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช, ื‘ื” ื‘ืฉืขื” ืฉื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืฉื ื™ื” ื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื™ื” ื ื”ืจื’ื” ื‘ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื—ืœืง ื‘ืจื—ื•, ื—ืœืง ื’ื•ืจืฉื•, ื•ืืžืจื• ืฉื ืฉืืจื• ืจืง ืื™ื–ื” ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืื—ื•ื– ื’ืจืžื ื™ื. ืื’ื‘, ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื•ื– ืื—ื“ ืฉืœ ืคื•ืœื ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ื ืฉืืจื• ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืื—ื•ื– ื’ืจืžื ื™ื, ื•ืžื™ ืืœื” ืฉื ืฉืืจื•? ืื• ื›ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ืคื•ืœื ื™ื, ืื• ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื ืฉื™ืฆืื• ืžืŸ ื”ืžื—ืชืจืช, ื•ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืชืจ ืœื”ื ืœื”ื™ืฉืืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ืžื” ืฉืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื”, ืฉื’ื ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ื”ื›ืคืจื™ืช ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช. ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ืฉื ืจืง ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ืขื ื“ืืœืงื˜ื™ื ื›ืžื• ืฉื”ื™ื• ื“ื™ืืœืงื˜ื™ื ื›ืคืจื™ื™ื ืื•ืœื™ ืขืฉืจื•ืช ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช. ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืžืจืชื™, ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื™ื—ืกื™ืช ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ืžืกืคืจ ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื™ื” ื ื•ืฉืง ืœืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื ืืœืฃ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื‘ื™ืŸ ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ืœืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื ืืœืฃ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ื—ืฉื‘ ืœืงื”ื™ืœื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ื‘ืคืจื ืงืคื•ืจื˜ ื”ื™ื• ืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื ื•ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ืืœืฃ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื•ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ืžืื” ืืœืฃ, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืจื—ื•ืง ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ.
ืฉ: ื•ืื™ืžื ื‘ืื” ืžืžืฉืคื—ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau)?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื™ืžื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืฉื•ืจืฉื™ื ืฉืœื” ื’ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื—ืœืงื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื‘ืฆื“ ื”ืžื–ืจื—ื™, ืืœื, ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืžืขืจื‘ื™ ืžืฆื“ ืื™ืžื ืฉืœื”, ื•ืžืฆื“ ื”ืื‘ ื”ื•ื ื’ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉืœื–ื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœืžื“ื• ื›ื•ืœื ืฉื. ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืฉื•ืžืจ ืžืฆื•ื•ืช, ื•ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืกืคืจ ืขืœ ื‘ืชื™-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ืฉืœ ื”ืขื™ืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื” ืฉืงืจืื• ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ืจืคื•ืจืžื™ืช, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืžืฉ ืจืคื•ืจืžื™ืช ืื‘ืœ, ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืกื’ื ื•ืŸ ื”ืžืื•ืจื™ืฅ' ืขื ืขื•ื’ื‘, ืื‘ืœ, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืขืœ ื”ืขื•ื’ื‘ ื ื™ื’ืŸ ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื–ื” ื›ื“ื•ื’ืžื. ื ื•ืกื— ื”ืชืคื™ืœื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืžื• ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืชื•ื ื™ื ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื ื‘ืจื•ื‘ื ืขื ื”ื“ื’ืฉื” ืจื‘ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื’ื ื”ื“ื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืงืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืจื•ื‘ื ืžืืฉืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™, ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืฉื 'ืฆื•ืžืฉื˜ื•ืจืฉ', ืฉื˜ื•ืจืฉ ื–ื” ื—ืกื™ื“ื”, ื•ืœืžื” ื—ืกื™ื“ื”? ื›ื™ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื”ื–ื” ืฉื‘ื ื• ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืžืื” ื”ืชืฉืข-ืขืฉืจื” ื”ื™ื” ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ื›ื ืจืื”, ืื™ื–ื” ืคื•ื ื“ืง ืฉื”ื™ื” ืขื ืกืžืœ ืฉืœ ื—ืกื™ื“ื”, ื•ืจืื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืฉืขืจ ืฉื ื›ื ืก, ื”ื•ื‘ื™ืœ ืœื—ืฆืจ ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ืื™ื–ื” ื—ืกื™ื“ื”. ืœื›ืŸ, ืงืจืื• ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช, ืื ื—ื ื• ืงืจืื ื• ืœื• 'ืฆื•ืžืฉื˜ื•ืจืฉ'. ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื—ืฉื‘ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืขืœ ื—ืกื™ื“ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืฉื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื™ืคื”, ืœื ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื”ืžืื•ืจื™ืฅ'. ืื’ื‘, ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื–ื” ืœื ื ืฉืจืฃ ื‘ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜, ื‘ื” ื‘ืฉืขื” ืฉื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ืžืื•ืจื™ืฅ' ื›ืŸ ื ืฉืจืฃ ื•ื’ื ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืชื™-ื›ื ืกืช.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ื ื™ืฆืœ?
ืช: ื”ื•ื ื ื—ืจื‘ ืžื‘ืคื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื ืฉืจืฃ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื‘ื ื” ื‘ืฉื›ื•ื ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืฆืคื•ืคื”, ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื—ืฉืฉื• ืฉืื ื”ื ื™ืฆื™ืชื• ืื•ืชื•, ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืชื”ื™ื” ืฉืจื™ืคื” ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื›ื•ื ื”, ื•ืฉื ื’ืจื• ื’ื•ื™ื™ื.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื” ืžืชื— ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ืช ืœืงื”ื™ืœื” ื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืืช ืฉื•ืืœืช ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื—ืฉื•ื‘. ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืื—ื™ื“ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื›ืžื• ื‘ืคืจื ืงืคื•ืจื˜, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ืช ืฉื ืคืจื“ื” ืžื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื”ื›ืœืœื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื›ื•ืœื. ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืฉืชื™ ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื•ืช, ืื—ืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ, ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ืจื•ื™ืืจ, ื•ืื—ืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ืฉื’ื ืœื”ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช, ืจื‘ ื•ื›ื•'. ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืจืง ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืื—ื™ื“ื”. ืžื” ืคื™ืจื•ืฉ? ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื•ืขืฆื” ืฉืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžืื•ื“ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ืช ื’ื ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื ื•ื’ื ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื ื‘ืขืจืš ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืžืกืคืจื™. ื”ื™ื• ืžื˜ืขื ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืฉื ื™ ืจื‘ื ื™ื ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื ื•ืฉื ื™ ืจื‘ื ื™ื ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื, ื•ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืื—ืจืื™ ืœื—ืœืง ืฉืœื• ืœืคื™ ื‘ื—ื™ืจืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืœืื™ื–ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื ื ืจืฉืžื•. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขื™ืœื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช. ื ื’ื™ื“, ื”ืฉื—ื™ื˜ื”, ืฉื—ืœืง ืžื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืื›ืœื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืฉื—ื™ื˜ื” ื›ืฉืจื”. ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืงื‘ืจื•ืช ื•ื›ืœ ื”ืžืคืขืœื™ื ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ื™ื, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืคื•ืชื—. ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ืฉืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืื”ื‘ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืคืชื•ื— ืœื”ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื—ืก ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื” ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“. ืื’ื‘, ื’ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื–ื” ืขื•ื“ ืงื™ื™ื ื›ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื, ืฉื’ื ืื•ืชื• ืœื ื”ืจืกื•. ืื‘ืœ, ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื‘ืชื™-ื›ื ืกืช ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืฉื‘ืจื• ื•ืฉืจืคื•.
ืฉ: ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื™ื—ืก ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ืืช ื’ื ืฉืืœื”. ืื‘ืœ ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืขื•ื“ ืžืฉื”ื•, ืฉื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื”, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ืžืจื—ืง, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืฉื ืื” ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื ืœืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ืจื‘ ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ ื”ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื•ื ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื”ืงื™ื ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘-1920 ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ื™ืœื“ื” ืงื˜ื ื˜ื•ื ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ื™ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ืงื™ื ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืฉื”ื•ื›ืจ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ืžืฉืจื“ ื”ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™, ื”ื™ื” ืžื—ื•ื™ื‘ ืœืœืžื“ ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืœื™ืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื›ืœืœื™, ืฉื–ื” ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ืกื•ื“ื™ ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื” ืœืงื™ื™ื ืื•ืชื•. ืืช ืชืฉืืœื™ ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœืžื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื”, ื›ื™ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื ื™ื™ื” ื•ื”ื™ื• ืœื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืคืขืœื™ื, ื’ื ืœืงืฉื™ืฉื™ื ื•ืœื™ืชื•ืžื™ื, ืื– ืœืžื” ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืงื™ื ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ื”ืฉืชืชืคื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื”. ืื‘ืœ ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื™ื•ื—ื“, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ, ื”ืื—ื–ืงื”, ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื•ื›ืœ ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืขืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™, ื•ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื™ื›ืœื” ืœืชืช ืืช ื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืœื ืจืฆื•. ืœืžื”? ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื ืืžืจื•: ืœื, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืืช ื–ื”, ื•ืœื ืžืกื™ื‘ื” ื“ืชื™ืช, ืืœื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื•ื ื™ื, ืฉื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื™ืœืžื“ื• ืœื—ื•ื“, ืืœื ืฉื™ืœืžื“ื• ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื’ืจืžื ื™ื™ื. ืœื›ืŸ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืžื‘ืœื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืขืœื™ื• ืฉืœื˜ ืฉื”ื•ื ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ ื•ืฉื”ื•ื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™, ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฆื™ื•ื ื™, ื›ื™ ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉื”ืœื›ื• ืœืฉื ื•ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™ืžื“ื• ืฉื. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ืฉืืœื” ืฉืœ ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ. ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื™ื—ืกื™ ื ืžืฆืืช ืงืจื•ื‘ ืœืžื–ืจื—, ื•ื‘ืžืฉืš ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœืคื ื™ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ื•ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืฉืชื™ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื•ืช, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื’ื™ืจื” ืœื ืงื˜ื ื” ืฉืœ ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ื—ืœืง ื”ื™ื• ืžืืœื” ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื—ืœืงื™ ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื›ืžื• ืคื•ื–ืŸ, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื ื•ืฉืื™ ื“ื’ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื•ื’ื ืžืกื™ื‘ื•ืช ืจื‘ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื‘ืื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื•ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืจืง ืœื”ื•ื“ื•ืช ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™, ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื—ืฉืชื™ ื‘ืžื” ืฉืื•ืžืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืจื™ื—ื•ืง ื•ื”ื ื™ื›ื•ืจ ื›ืœืคื™ ื”ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ, ืœืžืจื•ืช, ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื™ืงื™ื. ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื•ื“ืื™ ืžืฉื•ืœืฉืช. ืกื™ื‘ื” ืื—ืช ื”ื™ื ืฉื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ืœื›ืœ ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื ื™ื›ื•ืจ ื›ืœืคื™ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื›ืœืœื™ ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกืืœื™. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื•ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื“ืชื™ื™ื, ืื– ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืžื” ืคื™ืจื•ืฉ, ืขื ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืื“ืจื‘ื”, ื™ืฉ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื ืขื•ืœื™ื ืขืœื™ื ื•, ื›ื™ ื”ื ืžื•ืฉืจืฉื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื”ื ืื•ืชื ื˜ื™ื™ื ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ื”ืฉื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืฉืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืกืคืจ ื”ืจื‘ื”, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ื‘ืœื™ ืžืœื™ืฆื”, ืฉืื ื™ ื–ื›ื™ืชื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ื•.
ืฉ: ืื™ื–ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”?
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืจืง ืœื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื‘ื ื™ื ื•ื‘ื ื•ืช ื™ื—ื“.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืฉืžื•?
ืช: ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื™ื•ื“ื™ืฉื” ืฉื•ืœื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ืช ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืื ื•ืฉื™ืช ื•ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช. ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืื”ื‘ื ื• ืœืœืžื•ื“, ื”ื–ื“ื”ื™ื ื• ืžืื•ื“. ืื—ื™ื™ ื’ื ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื. ืžื™ ื”ื™ื• ืฉืœืžื“ื• ืฉื? ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื, ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ, ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื•ืžืจื™ ืžืฆื•ื•ืช, ื›ื™ ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื•ื‘ื—ื’ื™ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื” ืกื’ื•ืจ, ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืืฉื•ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ, ื’ื ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืœื ืœืžื“ื ื•. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ ื›ืŸ ืœืžื“ื ื• ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ื›ื™ ืื—ืจืช ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื”ืกืคื™ืง ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืืช ื›ืœ ื—ื•ืžืจ ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ืกื•ื“ื™ ืœื ืœืžื“ื ื• ื‘ืฉื ื™ ื”ื™ืžื™ื ื‘ืฉื‘ื•ืข.
ืฉ: ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืžื• ืฉื ืืช ื”ื“ื’ืฉ?
ืช: ืœืžื“ื• ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ื›ืžื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืื—ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”. ืื’ื‘, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืคื™ืงื•ื— ืฉืœ ืžืฉืจื“ ื”ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื”ื›ืœืœื™, ื‘ืื• ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ืœืคืงื—, ื•ืœืจืื•ืช ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ื™ืคื” ื’ื ืœืฆื˜ื˜ ื’ืชื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืฉื•ืžืขืช ืืช ื–ื” ืขื“ ื”ื™ื•ื. ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื•ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื™ื ื•ืช, ืฉื”ืŸ ืขื•ื›ื‘ื• ืื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉืจ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื›ืœ ื”ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื”ื™ื’ื™ื™ื ื”. ืื– ืื ื”ื™ื” ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื•, ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื—ืœื” ืกืงืจืœื˜ื™ื ื”, ืฉื–ื• ืžื—ืœื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ื›ืืŸ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืฆื•ืจื”. ืื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื—ื•ืœื” ื‘ืกืงืจืœื˜ื™ื ื” ืื– ืกื’ืจื• ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ื•ืขืฉื• ื—ื™ื˜ื•ื™. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืžืฆื“ ืžืฉืจื“ ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ืื• ืžืฉืจื“ ื”ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื”ื›ืœืœื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ื”ืืœื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื”ื™ื”, ืฉื ื•ืกืฃ ืœื—ื•ืžืจ ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื›ืœืœื™ ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืœืžื“ื•, ืœืžืฉืœ?
ืช: ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืชืคื™ืœื”, ื•ื›ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืขื ืžื ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ. ื›ื•ืœื ืœืžื“ื• ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœืฉื‘ืช ื•ืœื—ื’ื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื•ืจื— ื—ื™ื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ืœืžื“ื• ื—ื•ืžืฉ, ืœืžื“ื• ื’ื ื—ื•ืžืฉ ืขื ืจืฉ"ื™, ื‘ื›ื™ืชื•ืช ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœืžื“ื• ื’ื ืžืฉื ื”, ื•ืœืžื“ื• ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ืžื” ืฉืงืจืื• ืื– ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื—ื“ืฉื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจืช. ืœื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœืจืžื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื™ื ื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉืื“ื ื™ืฆื ืชืœืžื™ื“ ื—ื›ื, ืื• ื™ื“ืข ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ืขืœ ื‘ื•ืจื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื™ืกื•ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘. ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœื™ื•ืชืจ ื™ื“ืข ืื• ื‘ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื”ืžืกื•ืจืชื™ืช, ืื• ื‘ื™ื“ื™ืขื” ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืคื” ื”ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื”ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจืช ืœืžื“ื• ืœื—ื•ื“. ื›ืžื• ืฉื™ืฉ ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœื–ื” ืื•ืœืคืŸ ืœืฉืคื”, ืื– ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืฉืคืจืืš ืฉื•ืœื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื—ื•ืฅ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ื’ื ืœืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื ื•ื’ื ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื, ืื• ื ื’ื™ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื ื•ืขืจ, ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื. ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื™ื“ืขื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœืงืจื•ื ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ืœื›ื• ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืฉื ืœืœืžื•ื“. ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืฉื•ื‘ ืœืขื‘ืจื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืจื™ื™, ื”ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ื”ื™ื˜ื‘ ืœื“ื‘ืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ื”ื‘ื™ื ื• ื•ื™ื“ืขื• ืงืฆืช. ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžื ื•ื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ื”ืžืจื›ื–ื™ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, "ื“ื” ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉื” ืจื•ื ื“ืฉื•" ืฉืœ ืจื•ื‘ืจื˜ ื•ื•ืœื˜ืฉ, ืฉื›ืœ ื™ื•ื ืฉื™ืฉื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข. ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื’ื ืžื ื•ื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื™ืจื—ื•ืŸ, ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ืจื—ื•ืŸ ืื• ื“ื•-ื™ืจื—ื•ืŸ ื”ืขื‘ืจื™ 'ื”ืขื•ืœื'. ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืžืจืชื™, ื”ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืจื•ื‘ื ื”ื™ื• ืื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื•ืžืจื™ ืžืฆื•ื•ืช ืื• ื’ื ืงืฆืช ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ืœื ื“ืชื™ื™ื. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ืœื ื“ืชื™ื™ื ืœื ืจื‘ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ืฉืฉืœื—ื• ืืช ื™ืœื“ื™ื”ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื”, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืœืžื“ื ื• ื’ื ืขืœ ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ืœืžื“ื• ืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ืื—ื•ื– ื™ืœื“ื™ ื”ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื›ื•ืœื”. ื”ื ืื”ื‘ื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืœืฉืœื•ื— ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉื• ืืช ืขืฆืžื ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื•ืœื™ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื•ื‘ื›ืœืœ. ืœื›ืŸ, ื ื’ื™ื“, ื”ืžื•ืฉื’ ืฉืœ ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืฉื•ืžืขื™ื ืชืžื™ื“, ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื›ืจืชื™, ืœื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื’ื ืœื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื•ื’ื ืœื ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ.
ืฉ: ืื™ื–ื” ืžื•ืจื™ื ื”ื™ื•?
ืช: ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืืœื” ืฉื’ืžืจื• ืืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื•ืกืžื›ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืืช ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืื™ื–ื” ืžื•ืจื” ืฉื›ื“ืื™ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœื™ื•?
ืช: ืœื, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืขืœ ื”ืจื‘ ืฉื”ืงื™ื ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื“ืžื•ืช ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ืช.
ืฉ: ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉืžื• ืฉืœ ื”ืจื‘?
ืช: ืฉืžื• ืฉืœ ื”ืจื‘ ื”ื™ื” ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืžืื™ืจ ืื• ืžืงืก ืกื™ืžื•ื ืกื•ืŸ. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื“ืžื•ืช ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ืช, ื“ืžื•ืช ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืžืฆื•ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ืžืชื•ืš ืื”ื‘ืช ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืื”ื‘ืช ื›ืœ ืขื ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื™ืฉ ืžืฉื›ื™ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื’ื™ื“ ื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ืืช ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื”ืžืฉื›ื•ืจื•ืช ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืจืง ืืกืฃ ื›ืกืฃ, ืื– ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ืœื‘ืงืจ ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื•ืœื ืคืขื ืื—ืช. ื”ื•ื ืœื ืœื™ืžื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืื– ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื‘ื—ื–ืจื”, ื”ื•ื ืกื™ืคืจ ืœื ื• ืขืœ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ื”ื“ืœื™ืง ืœื ื• ืืช ื”ืืฉ.
ืฉ: ืžืชื™ ื ื•ืกื“ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื”?
ืช: ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ื ื•ืกื“ ื‘-1920, ื•ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื ืขื“ 1938, ืฉืื ื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื. ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืฉื ืช 33' ื‘ืื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ ื›ืœืœื™ื™ื, ื•ืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื•ื”ืจื‘ ืกื™ืžื•ื ืกื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื•ืจื‘ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ื’ื™ื“ ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ื”ืจื•ื—ื ื™ืช ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ื–ื”, ื•ื›ืฉื”ื™ื” ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื‘ื—ื™ืจืช ืžื•ืจื™ื ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ืื– ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืœื™ืžื“, ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื ื‘ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืงื‘ื•ืข. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื“ืื’ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืชืงื™ื™ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื ืื‘ืง ืืช ืžืื‘ืง ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื•ื–ื”ื•, ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืชืฆื˜ืจืš ืœื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ. ื”ื›ื™ืชื•ืช ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช, ื”ื™ื• ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืชื” ื‘ื ื™ื ื•ื‘ื ื•ืช ื™ื—ื“ ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžืงื‘ื™ืœื•ืช. ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืขื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืื—ื•ื– ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืฉืชืชืคื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืื—ื–ืงื” ืžืฆื“ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืจืง ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืฉื–ื” ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืงืฆืช ืงืฉื” ืื• ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”. ื”ื™ื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ื•ื•ืขื“ ื”ื•ืจื™ื, ืื– ืชืžื™ื“ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™, ืื• ืื‘ื ืื• ืื™ืžื, ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื•ื•ืขื“ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื, ืื•ืžื ื ืžื”ืฆื“, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื• ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื? ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื›ื›ื” ืขื ื“ื’ืœ, ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืฉื ื’ื™ื“ ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื—ื’ื™ื’ื” ืœื—ื ื•ื›ื”, ื”ื›ื ื•, ืื– ืžื›ืจื ื• ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื›ืจื˜ื™ืกื™ ื›ื ื™ืกื”, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ. ืื ื—ื ื• ืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื—ื•ื’ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื•ื”ื™ื“ื™ื“ื™ื ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื”ื”ืฆื’ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•. ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื•ืช ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ืื•ื•ืช ื™ื—ื™ื“ื”.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื‘ืชืงื•ืคื” ื“ื™ ืกื•ืขืจืช ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”?
ืช: ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื”...
ืฉ: ืื ื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื“ืขืช ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืื•ื•ื™ืจื” ืœืคื ื™ ืขืœื™ื™ืชื• ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ื•ืื™ืš ืืชื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืฉื–ื” ืงื™ื™ื. ื›ืฉืขืœื” ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืœืฉืœื˜ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืช ืืจื‘ืข-ืขืฉืจื” ื•ื—ืฆื™, ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™, ืžืื– ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืช ืขืฉืจ ื•ืื™ืœืš, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืžืฉื ืช 29' ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื•ื“ืขืช ืžืื•ื“ ืœื›ืš ืฉื™ืฉ ืขืœื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื–ื. ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื”ืœื›ื• ืœื‘ื—ื•ืจ, ื•ื”ื ื‘ื—ืจื• ื›ืžื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื›ืžื• ืจื•ื‘ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™, ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืฉืงืคืชื ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืื• ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช ื•ื’ื ืœื ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™. ืื– ื”ื™ื• ืฉืชื™ ืžืคืœื’ื•ืช ืœืื•ืžื™ื•ืช ื‘ื”ื“ื’ืฉื”. ืžืคืœื’ื” ืื—ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื“ื•ื™ื˜ืฉ ื ืืฆื™ื•ื ืœื”, ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ืฉื ื™ื, ื’ื ืจืœื™ื ื•ื›ืœ ืืœื”. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜, ื”ื ืœื ืื”ื‘ื• ืืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ืœื ืจืฆื• ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืžืขืžื“, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื‘ืœื•ืข ืœื ื‘ืจืฆื•ืŸ ืืช ื”ื—ื•ืง ืฉืœ ื•ื™ื™ืžืืจ ืฉืœืคื™ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืคืœื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ื”ื ื”ืกืชื’ืจื• ื•ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ื”ื™ื•, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืœื ืืœื™ืžื™ื, ื”ื ื›ืชื‘ื• ื ื’ื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืฉื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืชื•ืคืกื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™ ืžืงื•ื, ืžืฉืคื™ืขื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™, ื–ื” ื›ืŸ. ื”ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื”ื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ืื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ืขืœ ื ืืฆื™ื•ื ืœ, ื’ื ืœื ืื”ื‘ื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืฆื‘ืื™ื•ืช, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื›ืœ ื–ืจ, ืžื•ื–ืจ ื•ืžื ื•ื’ื“. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืฉืขืœื• ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ื”ื ืืฆื™ื•ื ืœ ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™ื, ืื– ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ื ืžื”ื”ืชื—ืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืืœื™ืžื™ื, ืžืกื™ืชื™ื, ื•ืžืกื™ืชื™ื ืืช ื”ืขื, ืืช ื”ืฉื›ื‘ื•ืช ื”ืื—ืจื•ืช. ื”ื ืืžืจื•: ื›ืœ ื”ืฆืจื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื–ื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœืš ื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืกื• ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืœืชื ื•ืขื” ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™ืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื ื•ืขื” ืžืื•ื“ ื—ื–ืงื”?
ืช: ื”ืจื™ ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืžืคื•ืœื’ื™ื ื›ืžื• ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืืจืฆื•ืช ื›ืžืขื˜. ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ืœืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ื–ื, ื•ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืœืชืคื™ืกื”, ืœื ืžื”ืฆื“ ื”ืœืื•ืžื™, ืืœื ืœืชืคื™ืกื” ื”ืงืคื™ื˜ืœื™ืกื˜ื™ืช, ืฉืื– ืœื ืงืจืื• ืœื–ื” ื›ื›ื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืžืฉื ื”. ืขืœ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืื ื™ ื’ื ืืกืคืจ ืขื•ื“ ืžืขื˜. ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื”ื“ื’ื™ืฉื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื•ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืฆื“ ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ. ื ื’ื™ื“, ืžื™ ืฉืขืžื“ ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ืžืืงืก ื™ืขืงื•ื‘ืกื•ืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื“ืชื™. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ืจืš-ื“ื™ืŸ ื—ื‘ื™ื‘ ืฉื ื•ืŸ ื•ื˜ื•ื‘. ื”ื•ื ืฉืœื— ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื•ืช ืฉืœื• ืœื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื•ื”ืคืš ืืช ื”ืžื˜ื‘ื— ืฉืœื• ืœื›ืฉืจ, ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื›ืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœืื›ื•ืœ ืืฆืœื•, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื“ืชื™. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื™ืฉ ื ื—ืžื“ ืžืื•ื“ ื•ื˜ื•ื‘, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืคืขื™ืœ ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื’ื ื‘ืžืคืœื’ื” ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ืช, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืžืฆื•ื™. ืžืœื‘ื“ ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื ื”ื™ื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืœืื• ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื“ืชื™ื™ื ื•ืœื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื”ื ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื”ืฉืคื™ืขื•. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืžืกื•ืฃ ื”ืžืื” ื”ืชืฉืข-ืขืฉืจื”. ื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ื“ ืžืคืœื’ื” ืงื˜ื ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื•ื“ื’ืฉืช, ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืขืœื™ื‘ ืืฃ ืื—ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ื—ื“"ืฉ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ืžื• ืžืจ"ืฅ. ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืฉื•ื ื”, ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืฉื•ื•ืช, ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืžื•ื‘ื ื™ื ืœื ืœื”ืฉื•ื•ืช, ืœื ืœื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื•ืœื ืœืจืขื”. ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืคืขื™ืœื™ื ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ื ื˜ื™ื™ื” ืœืžืฉื˜ืจ ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™. ื”ื—ื•ืงื” ืžื•ื•ื™ื™ืžืืจ, ืขื“ ื›ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื“ื•ืŸ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื ืจืื™ืช ืœื™ ื—ื•ืงื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื’ื ืขื•ื“ ื”ื™ื•ื, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ืคืจื˜ื™ื, ื’ื ืชืฉืขื™ื ืฉื ื” ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื ื›ืชื‘ื”. ื”ื™ื ื ื›ืฉืœื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช ืื•ื‘ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื™ื ืคืœืฆื™ื” ื•ื›ื•' ื•ื›ื•', ื’ื ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื•ืช ืคื ื™ืžื™ืช ื—ื–ืงื” ื•ื’ื ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ื—ื•ืœืฉื” ื”ื”ื ื”ื’ืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ืขืฆืžื. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื™ืจื™ื“ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช, ื–ื” ื”ื›ืœ ื™ื“ืขื•.
ืฉ: ืืชื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื ืืช ื”ื™ืจื™ื“ื” ื”ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื•. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื™ื ืคืœืฆื™ื” ื•ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื ื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ื’ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืขื ื™ื™ื. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืกื‘ื™ ืžืฆื“ ืื™ืžื™ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืืžื™ื“ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ื—ื‘ืจื” ืœืžืชื›ื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœืกื‘ื ืขื ื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื• ื•ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื—ื‘ืจื” ืžืžืฉ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ืื’ื‘, ื”ื ืฉืžืจื• ืฉื‘ืช, ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื–ื”, ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื”ื ืกื’ืจื• ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื—ื‘ืจื” ืœืžืชื›ื•ืช ื•ื›ื™ืžื™ืงืœื™ื. ืœืคื ื™ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื•ื’ื ืื—ืจื™ ื–ื” ืขื•ื“ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืืžื™ื“ื™ื, ืœื ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžืกื•ื™ืžื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืืžื™ื“ื™ื. ืœืžืฉืœ, ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืืงืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืฉืœ ืžืชื›ื•ืช ืœืจื•ืกื™ื”. ืื– ื‘ืชื—ื ืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื‘ืฆื“, ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฉื, ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืžืกื™ืœื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื, ืฉื‘ื™ื•ื ืฉื‘ืช ื”ื ืขืžื“ื• ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ื ื. ื”ื ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื™ืจื“ื• ืžื ื›ืกื™ื”ื, ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืžื”ืจ ื›ืžื• ืื—ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ืžืžืฉ ื™ืจื“ื• ืžื ื›ืกื™ื”ื ื‘ืฉื ืช 29' ื›ืฉื”ื™ื” ื”ืžืฉื‘ืจ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื” ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ, ืฉื ื•ืกืฃ ืขืœ ื›ืš ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืื ืฉื™ื ื™ืฉืจื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืžืขื˜ ื‘ื—ื™ื•ืš ืžืจ, ื›ื™ ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื” ื“ืชื™ื™ื”, ืื ื™ ืžืชื‘ื™ื™ืฉืช ืื ื–ื” ืœื ื›ืš. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ืืช ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ, ืื– ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื ืฉื™ืœืžื• ืœืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื”ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ, ื›ืžื• ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื›ืืŸ, ืฉืฉืžื™ื ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื›ืกืฃ ื”ืฆื™ื“ื”, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืฉืœื ืœืžื™ ืฉื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื•. ืืช ื–ื” ื”ื ืœื ืขืฉื•, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื‘ื ื•ื’ืข ืœื”ืชืคืชื—ื•ืช ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ื›ื™ืœื“ื” ืงื˜ื ื” ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืงื”, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ืื™ื ืคืœืฆื™ื”, ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืฉื™ื—ืงื ื• ืคืชืื•ื ืขื ืžื˜ื‘ืขื•ืช ืžืื•ื“ ืงืœื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืจืฆืคื”, ืžื˜ื‘ืขื•ืช ืฉืœ ืžืื” ืžืืจืง ื•ืฉืœ ืืœืฃ ืžืืจืง. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื™ื ืคืœืฆื™ื” ืžืฉื•ื’ืขืช, ืฉื”ื‘ื™ืื” ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื’ื ืืช ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืจืง, ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื” ืฉืงืจื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš. ืืช ื–ื” ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื” ื”ืกื™ื‘ื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ื›ื ืจืื” ืœื”ืฆื˜ืžืฆื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช. ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ืฉืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื˜ื•ื‘. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ื™ืœื“ื•ืช ื™ืคื” ื•ื˜ื•ื‘ื”. ืื ื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ืืงื“ื™ื ืืช ื”ืžืื•ื—ืจ, ืฉืœืžืจืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื›ืœ ื ืขื•ืจื™ื™ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ื‘ืขืฆื, ื‘ื›ืœ ื ืขื•ืจื™ื™ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื ืืฆื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื›ืฉื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืขืœื” ืœืฉืœื˜ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืช ืืจื‘ืข-ืขืฉืจื”, ืืจื‘ืข-ืขืฉืจื” ื•ื—ืฆื™, ื•ื›ืฉื™ืฆืืชื™ ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืช ืขืฉืจื™ื. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ืื ืฉื•ืืœื™ื ืื•ืชื™ ืื ืื ื™ ืกื‘ืœืชื™ ื ืคืฉื™ืช ืื™ืฉื™ืช, ืœื ื›ืœืœื™ืช, ืžื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืœื. ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื•ื™ื’ื™ื“ื• ืœื™: ืื™ืš ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”? ืื‘ืœ ื–ืืช ืขื•ื‘ื“ื”, ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื—ื™ื™ื ืžืœืื™ื ืžืฉืœื™, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ. ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืื™ืฉื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื”.
ืฆื“ ืฉื ื™:
ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืงืฆืช, ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื• ื”ื—ื’ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืชื ื•. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืœืคื™ ืื•ืจื— ื—ื™ื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ื™ื•ืช, ืœื ืžืฉื”ื• ืงืคื•ื ื›ืžื• ืฉืœืคืขืžื™ื ืžืจื•ื‘ ื˜ืงืกื™ื•ืช, ื ื’ื™ื“ ื›ืš. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื‘ืชื•ืช ื•ื—ื’ื™ื. ื ืืžืจ ื”ื›ื ื•ืช ืœืคืกื—, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ื–ื”. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ื—ื’ื™ื ืขืฆืžื, ืคืกื— ืขืฆืžื•. ื‘ืคืกื— ื”ื–ืžื ื• ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื, ื™ืฉื‘ื ื• ื™ื—ื“, ื•ืกื™ืคืจื ื• ื‘ื™ืฆื™ืืช ืžืฆืจื™ื. ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ื›ื™ืŸ ืžืฉื”ื•, ืžื™ ืฉื™ื“ืข ื™ื•ืชืจ ืกื™ืคืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื•ืžื™ ืฉื™ื“ืข ืงืฆืช ืกื™ืคืจ ืžืฉื”ื• ืžื™ืฆื™ืืช ืžืฆืจื™ื ื›ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ื–ื• ืื’ื“ื”. ืื‘ื ื ื™ื”ืœ ืืช ื”ืกื“ืจ, ืœืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืงื•ืœ ื™ืคื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข ื™ืคื”. ืฉืจื ื•, ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืฉืจื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื•ื’ื ื‘ืฉื‘ืชื•ืช ื•ื‘ื—ื’ื™ื ื–ื” ื‘ื ืœื™ื“ื™ ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™. ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืืฆืœื ื• ืกืคืจ ื”ืื’ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืืœื™ืง ืจื‘ื ื™ืฆืงื™, ืื– ื™ืฉื‘ื ื• ืขื ืคืจืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืขืœ ื™ืฆื™ืืช ืžืฆืจื™ื ืื• ื‘ื ื™-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืžืฆืจื™ื, ื•ืžืชื•ืš ื–ื” ื”ื‘ืื ื• ืืช ืžื” ืฉื“ื™ื‘ืจ ืืœ ืœื™ื‘ื ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืชื—ืœื ื•. ื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื™ื“ืขื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžื ื™, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืกื™ืคืจื ื• ื•ืฉืจื ื•. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืชื—ืจื•ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื”ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ืื• ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื™ืฉื‘ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ืœื™ืœ ื”ืกื“ืจ ืœืกืคืจ. ื”ืื•ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืื•ื›ืœ ืžืกื•ืจืชื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืขื ื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืื•ื›ืœื™ื ื‘ืคืกื—, ืœื ืจืง ื”ืžืฆื•ืช, ืืœื, ื’ื ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื›ื•ืคืชืื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืงื ื™ื™ื“ืœืš. ื›ื›ื” ืœื ื™ื“ืขื ื• ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ืื‘ืœ ืžื™ืœื™ื ื›ืืœื” ืืžืจื• ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ. ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ื•ืจืฉื˜, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืกืœืง ื•ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื” ื”ื™ื•. ืฉืžื—ื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืœืงืจืืช ื”ื—ื’, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื’ื ื—ื’ื™ื’ื™ ืžืื•ื“. ืœืื‘ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื˜ืœ ืœื‘ืŸ ื™ืคื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื• ื‘ื™ื•ื ื›ื™ืคื•ืจ ื•ื‘ืœื™ืœ ื”ืกื“ืจ. ืฉื›ื—ืชื™, ืื•ืœื™, ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื’ื ื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื• ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืฉื ื”, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืฉื ื” ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ื”ื•ื’ ืฉืจืง ื‘ืขืœื™ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ืœื•ื‘ืฉื™ื ืืช ื”ืงื™ื˜ืœ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืขืœ ื”ืชืคื™ืœื” โ€“ ื”ื—ื–ืŸ, ื‘ืขืœ ื”ืชื•ืงืข โ€“ ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืชื•ืงืข ื‘ืฉื•ืคืจ, ื•ื’ื ืžื™ ืฉืงืจื ื‘ืชื•ืจื”. ืื‘ืœ ืกืชื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืœื ืœื‘ืฉ ืืช ื”ืงื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืฉื ื”. ื”ื™ื• ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ืฉื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื ื”ื•ื’ ืฉื, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื ื”ื•ื’. ืื‘ื ื‘ืžืฉืš ื”ืฉื ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื—ื–ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืžื ื• ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืชื™ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื ื•ืจืื™ื. ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื• ืœื ืจืง ืฉื ื™ ื‘ืชื™-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืฉื”ื–ื›ืจืชื™, ืืœื ืžืœื‘ื“ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืชื™-ื›ื ืกืช ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื‘ืžืฉืš ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื”. ื‘ื—ืœืงื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื™-ื›ื ืกืช ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ื”ื™ื• ืขื ื™ื•ืฆืื™ ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืžืกื•ื™ืžื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื™ื—ื“. ื”ื™ื• ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ืชื™-ื›ื ืกืช ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœ ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ, ืฉื ืงืจืื• ืขืœ ืฉื ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืคืขื. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื ื—ื ื• ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ืœื ื”ืชืคืœืœื ื• ื‘ืฉื˜ื•ืจืก, ืืœื ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืชืคืœืœื ื• ื‘ืœื•ื’ืื• ืฉื•ืœ. ืœื•ื’ืื• ื–ื• ืขื™ื™ืจื” ื‘ืฉืœื–ื™ื”, ืฉืžืฉื ื‘ืื• ื›ื ืจืื” ืคืขื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื•ื”ื ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื–ื”. ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื‘ืื ื• ืžืฉื, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืจื•ื‘ ืœื‘ื™ืชื ื•, ื•ืกื‘ื ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื’ื‘ืื™, ื›ืš ืฉืฉื, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืคื—ื•ืช ืื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ื™ืœื“ื”. ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื ื•ืจืื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืชืžื™ื“ ืขื•ื“ ืžื ื™ื™ื ื™ื. ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื’ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื ื”ืœื›ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื ื•ืจืื™ื. ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœืชืช ื“ื•ื’ืžื, ื’ื ื‘ืชื™-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื•ื’ื ื”ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืœื ื”ืกืคื™ืงื• ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื”ื ื•ืจืื™ื, ืื– ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืฉื›ืจื”, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืืช ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืงื•ื ืฆืจื˜ื™ื ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืœื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“ ื•ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืขื•ื“ ืื•ืœื ืงื˜ืŸ. ืฉื›ืจื• ืืช ื”ืื•ืœื ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฆื•ืจืš ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช. ื”ืื•ืœื ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ืกื ื™ืฃ, ืฉื ืขืฉื• ืžื ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ืžืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื—ื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉื‘ืข-ืขืฉืจื”, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืืœื” ืฉืขื‘ืจื• ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืชื™ื‘ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื’ื ืขื•ื“ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื“ืจื™ืš ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื™ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืกื“ืจ ืœืคื™ ื”ื ื•ืกื—. ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ, ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื ืขืจื” ืงืฆืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื”ืชืคืœืœ ืฉื. ืื‘ื ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืžืชืคืœืœ, ืื• ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืื•ืชื• ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืชื™ื‘ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžื•ืกื“, ืฉืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ืœื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ, ืฉื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื—ืฉื•ื‘. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉืคืขืœ ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืื—ื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืœ ื”ืชืคื™ืœื”. ืื‘ืœ ืœื”ืชืคืœืœ ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืชืคื™ืœื•ืช ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื ื•ืจืื™ื ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™, ืื– ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืื‘ื, ื•ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ืจ ืฉื ืชืžื™ื“ ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืชื™ื‘ื”. ืื– ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื ื•ืจืื™ื ื›ื™ืœื“ื” ืงื˜ื ื” ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื”ืชืคืœืœ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื”ื–ื”. ื™ืžื™ื ื ื•ืจืื™ื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื›ืžื ื”ื’ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื‘ื™ื•ื ื›ื™ืคื•ืจ ืžืฉื‘ืข ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืขื“ ืฉืฉ, ืฉืฉ ื•ื—ืฆื™, ืžืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืฆื ื”ื™ื•ื, ื”ืชืคืœืœื• ืฉื ื‘ืœื™ ื”ืคืกืงื”. ื–ื” ืœื ื›ืžื• ื›ืืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืกืงื•ืช, ื•ืื”ื‘ื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“. ืœื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื“ื—ื•ืฃ ืื•ืชื ื•, ืฉืžื—ื ื• ืœืงืจืืช ื”ื™ืžื™ื ื”ืืœื•. ื‘ืกื•ื›ื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืกื•ื›ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื•ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืœื ืœื›ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืกื•ื›ื•ืช. ื‘ืขืจื™ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืžื™ ืฉืจืฆื” ืœื”ืงื™ื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื”, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืขื™ืจ ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ืžื• ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื, ื—ืฆืจื•ืช ืœื ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื• ื•ืžืจืคืกื•ืช ื’ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืชืžื™ื“. ืื‘ืœ, ืืฆืœื ื• ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ื“ื™ืจื” ืฉืจื•ื‘ ื”ื™ืœื“ื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื’ืจื” ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืžืจืคืกืช ืœื ืžื›ื•ืกื” ื‘ื’ื’, ืื– ืฉื ื”ืงืžื ื• ืืช ื”ืกื•ื›ื”, ื•ืงื™ืฉื˜ื ื• ืื•ืชื”. ื™ืžื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื›ื ื• ืืช ื”ืฉืจืฉืจืื•ืช ื•ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื”. ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื“ืชื™ื™ื ืฉืจืฆื• ืฉืชื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืกื•ื›ื” ื”ืฉืชื“ืœื• ืœืฉื›ื•ืจ ื“ื™ืจื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืงื™ื ืฉื ืกื•ื›ื”. ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื“ื™ืจื” ืื—ืจืช, ืฉื ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืจืคืกืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื˜ื— ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื˜ื— ืžื’ื•ื“ืจ ืขื ืงืฆืช ืขืฆื™ื, ื•ืฉื ื”ืงืžื ื• ืืช ื”ืกื•ื›ื” ืฉืœื ื•, ื›ืš ืฉืื ื™ ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืขื ืกื•ื›ื”. ืœืžื™ ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืกื•ื›ื”, ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื‘ืชื™-ื”ื›ื ืกืช, ืื’ื‘, ื’ื ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™, ืื‘ืœ, ื’ื ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื‘ืชื™-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ืื—ืจื™ื, ืขืฉื• ืกื•ื›ื” ื‘ื—ืฆืจ, ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ืื• ืœืฉื ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื’ื ื”ื ื™ื™ืฉื‘ื• ืคืขื ื‘ืกื•ื›ื” ื‘ื—ื’ ื”ืกื•ื›ื•ืช, ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžืขื•ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ืืฆืœื ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืขื™ื”, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืกื•ื›ื” ืžืฉืœื ื•. ื’ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืกื‘ื, ืื‘ื ืฉืœ ืื™ืžื, ืฉื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืœื ืจื—ื•ืง ืžืื™ืชื ื•, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ืกื•ื›ื” ื™ืคื”, ื•ื’ื ืืœื™ื” ื”ืœื›ื ื•. ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืกื‘ื ื•ืกื‘ืชื ืฉืœื™ ื’ืจื• ื‘ืงืจื‘ืช ืžืงื•ื, ื›ืš ืฉื”ืœื›ื ื• ืืœื™ื”ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขืžื™ื, ื•ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืงื‘ื•ืข ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืืœื™ื”ื ื‘ืกืขื•ื“ืช ืคื•ืจื™ื. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืืœื™ื”ื ืขื•ื“ ืคืขืžื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื›ืœ ืฉื‘ืช ื•ืœื ื›ืœ ื—ื’, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื‘ืงืจ ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื‘ืกืขื•ื“ื”. ื”ืกืขื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืฉืœื ื•, ื•ืืฆืœื ื• ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ืกื’ื ื•ืŸ ืื—ืจ, ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืœืžื“ื ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื‘ื ื•ื™ ืขืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื•ื’ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืฉื™ืจื”.
ืฉ: ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืฉืœื—ื• ืžืฉืœื•ื— ืžื ื•ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืฉืœื—ื• ืžืฉืœื•ื— ืžื ื•ืช ื•ื”ืชื—ืคืฉื ื•, ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœื ืขื ืชื—ืคื•ืฉื•ืช ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช ื•ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื™ืงืจื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืชื—ืคืฉื ื•. ืฉืžื—ืช ืชื•ืจื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื—ืฉื•ื‘, ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื“ื’ืœ ื™ืคื” ืžื‘ื“ ืžืฉื™ ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ื•ืฉืžืจื ื• ืืช ื”ื“ื’ืœื™ื ื”ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ื™ื ืžืฉื ื” ืœืฉื ื”. ืœืžืฉืœ ื”ื™ื” ืžื ื”ื’, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืžืฆื•ื™ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืฉื‘ืฉืžื—ืช ืชื•ืจื” ื‘ืขืจื‘ ื’ื ืงืจืื• ื‘ืชื•ืจื” ืืช ืคืจืฉืช "ื•ื–ืืช ื”ื‘ืจื›ื”", ืฉื–ื• ืคืจืฉื” ืื—ืจื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืกืคืจ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื‘ืขืฆื, ืื™ืŸ ื–ื• ืžืฆื•ื•ื” ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื™ื™ื ืื•ืชื”, ืืœื ื–ื” ืžื ื”ื’, ืื– ื ืชื ื• ืœืงืจื•ื ื’ื ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืจ-ืžืฆื•ื•ื” ื‘ืœื™ืœ ืฉืžื—ืช ืชื•ืจื”. ื›ืืŸ ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืงืฆืช ื”ืคืžื™ื ื™ื–ื ื”ื“ืชื™ ืฉืœื™, ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืืช ื–ื” ืจืง ื‘ืฆื—ื•ืง, ืฉื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื™ ืœืžื“ื• ื•ืงืจืื• ื‘ืชื•ืจื”, ื•ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ืœื›ืŸ ืฉืžืขืชื™, ืื– ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืฉืžืขืชื™ ืื– ืœืžื“ืชื™. ื–ื” ืœื ืฉื™ื“ืขืชื™ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื˜ื•ื‘, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืœืงืจื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื‘ื˜ืขืžื™ื, ืจืง ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ืฉื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืœืฉื™ืจ ืฉื™ืจื™ื. ืื– ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืช ืฉื‘ืข ืื• ืฉืžื•ื ื”, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง, ืื– ืืžืจืชื™: ื’ื ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ืื– ืœืžื” ืœื ื ื•ืชื ื™ื ืœื™ ืœืงืจื•ื? ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื”ื™ื• ืžืกืคื™ืง ื ื‘ื•ื ื™ื, ื•ื”ื ืืžืจื• ืœื™: ืืœ ืชื“ืื’ื™, ืืช ืชืงืจืื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ืื•ืžื ื ืœื ืžืชื•ืจื” ืืœื ืžื—ื•ืžืฉ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื ื ืชื ื• ืœื™ ื’ื ืืช ื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉืœื™. ืฉืžื—ืช ืชื•ืจื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช ืžืื•ื“ ื—ื’ื™ื’ื™.
ืฉ: ื™ืฆืื• ื’ื ืœืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืขื ืกืคืจื™ ืชื•ืจื”?
ืช: ืœื, ื–ื” ืœื.
ืฉ: ืœืขื•ืœื ืœื?
ืช: ืœื, ืœืขื•ืœื ืœื. ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ืœื ืฉื”ื—ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื™ืฆืื•. ืจืื• ืื•ืชื ื• ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ืื• ื‘ื—ื’ื™ื, ื›ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื•ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื‘ื’ื“ื™ื ื—ื’ื™ื’ื™ื™ื, ืื– ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฉื•ื ื™ื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืขื‘ื“ื•, ื•ื”ื›ืœ ืคืขืœ. ื–ื” ืœื ื›ืžื• ื”ื™ื•ื ื‘ืžืขืจื‘ ืฉื™ื•ื ืฉื‘ืช ื’ื ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื—ืฆื™ ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ืœื›ืŸ ื–ื” ื‘ืœื˜. ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื ื‘ืœืข ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช.
ืฉ: ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœื›ื ื”ืชื ื›ืœื•ื™ื•ืช?
ืช: ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืฉื”ื™ื•. ืœืžืฉืœ, ื‘ืœื‘ื“ ื‘ ืจื•ื ืฉื• ืฉื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื’ื™ืžื™ื™ื ื“ื” ื‘ืœืื˜, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืคืขื ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืฉืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ืฉื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื”ื•ืฆื™ืื” ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ื ื•ื’ืขื™ื ืœื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื•ืฉื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ืฉื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ื ืชื ื• ืกื˜ื™ืจืช ืœื—ื™ ืœื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืื• ืฉื”ืขืœื™ื‘ื• ืื•ืชื• ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ืืช ื–ื”. ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืื– ื›ืœ ืคืขื ื›ืฉื”ื•ืคื™ืข ื’ื™ืžื™ื™ื ื“ื” ื‘ืœืื˜, ื”ื™ื” ืชืžื™ื“ ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ื›ืžื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืขื–ื‘ื• ืืช ื”ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ืื• ื›ืžื” ื”ืชื ืฆืจื•. ืื•ืœื™ ื›ืžื” ื”ืชื ืฆืจื• ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืžื” ืขื–ื‘ื• ืืช ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื•ื•ืœื•ื ื˜ืจื™, ื•ืžื™ ืฉืœื ืจืฆื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ื‘ืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื”ื•ื“ื™ืข ืขืœ ื›ืš, ื•ืœื ืฉื™ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืชืžื™ื“ ืื ื—ื ื• ื‘ื“ืงื ื• ืื ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืขื–ื‘, ื•ื–ื” ื”ืขืœื™ื‘ ืื•ืชื ื• ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืขื•ื“ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ื–ื”, ืฉื›ืœ ืคืขื ืคืชื—ื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืจืื•ืช ื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื•ืื ื™. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื”, ื›ื™ ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื• ืืช ื”ื”ืชื‘ื•ืœืœื•ืช, ื•ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื ื• ืœื”. ืื ื™ ืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช, ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืคืขื ืฉื”ืœื›ื ื•, ื ื’ื™ื“, ื›ื™ืชื” ืฉืœืžื” ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื˜ื™ื•ืœ, ื›ื™ ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื˜ื™ื•ืœื™ื ืžื˜ืขื ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ืื– ื›ืฉื”ืœื›ื ื• ื™ื—ื“, ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžื”ืฆื“ ืงืจื ืคืขื ื™ื•ื“ื”, ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”. ื”ืชื ื›ืœื•ืช ืงืฉื” ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉืจ, ื ื’ื™ื“, ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืœืฉื—ื•ืช ืžื•ืงื“ื, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืจื™ื›ื” ืกื’ื•ืจื”, ื•ืฉื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืœืฉื—ื•ืช. ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ืจืฆื• ืฉืื ื™ ืื“ืข ืœืฉื—ื•ืช, ืื– ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื™ ืœืฉื, ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ืžื•ืจื” ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื” ื•ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืขืฉื• ืืช ื–ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื‘ื™ื—ื“, ื›ืžื• ื’ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืžื™ืœื ืจืง ื‘ื™ื—ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื ืคืจื“, ืžืžืฉ ื ืคืจื“. ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”, ื›ืžื• ืฉืืช ื”ื–ื›ืจืช ืืช , ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ ืคืจื™ื‘ื•ืจื’ื” ืฉื˜ืจืืกื” ื•ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื—ื ื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื” ืœื’ืœื™ื“ื” ืžืื™ื˜ืœืงื™ื, ืฉื‘ืื• ืชืžื™ื“ ื‘ืงื™ืฅ, ื—ื ื•ืช ืœื’ืœื™ื“ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”. ื–ื” ืœื ืขืœื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื›ืกืฃ, ืื– ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืงื ื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืขื ื•ืืคืœ ื•ืœืœืงืง. ืฉื ื‘ืงืจื‘ืช ืžืงื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื›ื ืกืช, ืื– ื›ืฉื™ืฆืื ื• ืžื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช, ื•ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ื™ืฆืื ื•, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช ืœืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื—ื‘ื•ืจื”. ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืœืื›ื•ืœ ื’ืœื™ื“ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจื™ ืœืฉืœื ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ื‘ืฉื‘ืช, ืื– ื”ื ื ืชื ื• ืœื ื•, ื•ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื‘ืื ื• ืœื”ื ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ืืช ื–ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืžืฉ ื”ืฉื›ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ืขืžื ื•ืืœ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจ ืืช ื”ื’ืœื™ื“ื” ืฉื. ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื›ื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื• ื’ืจื™ื ืฉื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื“ืื™ ืฉืคื•ืœื™ื˜ืจื™ืืค ื ื ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื‘ื›ืœืœ. ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ืจื™ื ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืขื™ืจ, ื•ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืขื™ืจ ืฉื›ื•ื ื•ืช, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ, ืœื ื’ื˜ื•, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื›ื•ื ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื‘ืœื‘ื“, ื•ืฉื ื’ืจื• ื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ. ืฉื ื’ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ืื—ื“ ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™, ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื•ืฉื ื’ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ืงืฆื‘ื™ื ื›ืฉืจื™ื. ืœืžืฉืœ, ื’ื ืžืฉืคื—ืช ืกืจ ืขืžื ื•ืืœ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื’ืจื™ื ืฉื. ื ื•ืกืฃ ืขืœ ื›ืš ื’ืจื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ื”ืขื™ืจ, ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื•ื– ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื”. ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืจื•ืคืื™ื, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขื•ืจื›ื™-ื“ื™ืŸ, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื•ืคื˜ื™ื, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขื™ืชื•ื ืื™ื ื›ืžื• ื‘ื›ืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœืื—ื•ื– ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื”. ืื™ื ื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืกื˜ื˜ื™ืกื˜ื™ืงื” ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ื™ื›ืจ ืžืื•ื“. ืœื›ืŸ ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ื”ื—ืจื ื‘ืื—ื“ ื‘ืืคืจื™ืœ 33', ืื– ืขื•ื“ ืœื ืฉื‘ืจื• ืืช ื”ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืขืžื™ื“ื• ื ืืฆื™ ื•ืืก.ืื” ืื• ืืก.ืืก ืœืคื ื™ ื”ื—ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืœื›ืœื›ื• ืืช ื”ืฉืžืฉื•ืช, ื›ืชื‘ื• ืขืœื™ื” ืžื“ื‘ืงื•ืช: ืืœ ืชื™ืงื ื• ืืฆืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื! ื”ื ื”ืขืžื™ื“ื• ืžื™ืฉื”ื•, ื•ืœื ื ืชื ื• ืœื”ื™ื›ื ืก. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ืจื•ื‘ ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ื”ืขื™ืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื•ืœื˜. ื›ืืฉืจ ื‘ืชืฉืขื” ื‘ื ื•ื‘ืžื‘ืจ ืื– ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืจืื• ื›ืžื” ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช ืœืคื™ ื”ืฉื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘, ืฉื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื” ืงืจืื• ืœื–ื” ื’ื ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ืจืื” ื›ืžื• ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ.
ืฉ: ืื ื—ื ื• ื ื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœื—ืจื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš. ืื‘ืœ, ืจืง ืื ื”ื–ื›ืจืช ื›ื‘ืจ ืืช ื”ื—ืจื, ื”ืื ืืช ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื”ื™ื•, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื›ืžื” ืžืŸ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ืฉื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ืœื—ืจื ื”ื–ื”?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื ืฉืžืขื• ืงื•ืœื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ื‘ืคื•ืขืœ. ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™, ืื ื ื›ื ืกื• ืœืื™ื–ื• ื—ื ื•ืช ืื• ืœืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื, ื•ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”, ื›ื™ ื™ื“ืขื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืžื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืœื ืชืžื™ื“, ืื– ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื” ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื’ื™ื“: ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื ื•ืจื ืžื” ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื. ื–ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื’ื•ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ ื™ื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื›ื ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื’ื™ื“: ื–ื” ืœื ืฆื•ื“ืง, ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ื–ื” ื›ืŸ ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ื‘-33'. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืื•ืœื™ ื—ืฉื‘ื• ื‘ืœื‘, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ืืžืจื• ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืงื•ืœ, ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ื‘ื™ื ื ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ืขืฆืžื, ืื•ืœื™ ืจืง ื‘ืฉืงื˜.
ืฉ: ืืช ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืคื—ื“?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืคื—ื“. ืื ื™ ืœื ื‘ืื” ืœืœืžื“ ื–ื›ื•ืช ื•ืœื ืœื”ืืฉื™ื ืกืชื. ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ื›ื›ื”, ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื”, ืœืคื™ ื”ื‘ื ืชื™, ืฉื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžื•ื›ื ื™ื ืœื”ืจื•ื’ ืื•ืชื ื• ืžื™ื“, ืœื ืขืฉื• ืืช ื–ื”, ืืœื ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื–ื” ื”ืœืš ืž-33' ื•ืขื“ ืœืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื, ืื• ื ื’ื™ื“ ืขื“ ืœืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜, ื–ื” ื”ืœืš ืฉืœื‘ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืœื‘, ื›ืœ ืคืขื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื”ื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื‘ืจ ื‘-33' ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื›ื–ืืช. ืื‘ืœ ืงืฆืช ืœื”ืงืฆื™ืŸ, ื•ืชืžื™ื“ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื–ื” ืœื˜ื•ื‘ืช ื”ืขื ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ืžื’ื•ื’ื™ื” ื•ื›ื•' ื•ื›ื•', ื–ื” ื›ืŸ ื”ืœืš. ืœื›ืŸ ื‘ื–ื” ืื ื™ ื’ื ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ, ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ, ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื. ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื” ืฉื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ืœื–ื” ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืคื ื™ืžื™ืช ืชืžื™ื“, ื’ื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš, ืื‘ืœ, ืœืžืขืฉื” ืœื, ื›ื™ ืคื—ื“ื•. ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืฉื—ืฉื‘ื• ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื™ืคื” ืžื” ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื ืœื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืงืฆืช ืฆื•ื“ืงื™ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืชืคืกื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™ ืžืงื•ื ื•ื›ื›ื”. ื›ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืจื‘ื™ื, ื•ืืœื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื•ืžืจื™ื ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ืงื•ืœ, ื•ืฉื ื™ืช ื”ืคื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ื”ืคื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืœื ืžื•ืฆื“ืง ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžื•ืกืจื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืขืฉื™ืช ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืฆื“ืง, ื›ื™ ืื ื”ื™ื” ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืขื•ืฉื” ืžืขื˜, ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืฆื™ืื™ื ืื•ืชื• ืžื—ื™ื™ ื”ื›ืœื›ืœื”, ื•ืื ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ื™ื• ืžืชื ื”ื’ื™ื ื›ืœืคื™ื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืืœื™ืžื” ื™ื•ืชืจ.
ืฉ: ื ื—ื–ื•ืจ ื‘ืจืฉื•ืชืš, ืืช ืกื™ืคืจืช ืœื™ ืฉื”ื”ืฉืชืชืคื•ืช ืฉืœืš ื‘ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฉืžืขื•ืชื™ืช, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื–ื” ื”ืฉืคืขื” ืขืœื™ืš.
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื—ืฉื•ื‘. ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ืื™ืฉื™ืช ืฉืœื™ ื•ื’ื ืฉืœ ืื—ื™ื™, ื›ืœ ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื ืขืœื• ืœืืจืฅ ืœืคื ื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื—ื•ืฅ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ืœืžืจื•ืช, ืฉื—ืœืง ืžื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืื™ืชื ื• ื’ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื—ืœืง ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืื™ืชื ื•, ืืœื” ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ ื›ืœืœื™ื™ื. ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื”ืžืื•ืจื’ื ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืžื™ืขื•ื˜ ื‘ืงื”ื™ืœื”. ื ื’ื™ื“ ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื•ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืžื™ืขื•ื˜. ืื—ื•ื– ืฉืœ ื ื•ืขืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืžืื•ืจื’ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ื•ืœื• ืื• ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ืื• ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™. ืœืื—ืจื™ื, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ ืื—ืช, ืฉื”ื ื ืงืจืื• ืงืžืจื“ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื—ืฆื™ ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืžื™ื“ื” ื›ืžื• ื”ื‘ื•ื ื™ื, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช ืœืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื”ื›ืœืœื™ื™ื, ื”ืœื ื“ืชื™ื™ื, ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื–ืจื, ืื• ื•ืจืงืœื•ื™ื˜, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ืžืžืฉ. ื”ื™ื” ื”ื—ืœื•ืฅ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœื’ื™ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื›ืœืœื™. ื•ื”ื™ื” ื”ื“ืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืจื™ืช ื—ืœื•ืฆื™ื ื“ืชื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื”ืžืฉืš ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื’ื™ืœ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื• ื—ื–ืงื•ืช ืžืื•ื“, ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื‘ืžืกืคืจ ืืœื ื›ืชื ื•ืขื”. ื”ื ืชืคืกื• ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื’ืžืจื™. ืžื” ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ืžื•ื“, ืื• ืœืคืจื ืกื” ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืœืžืฉืคื—ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืืช ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ื™ื” ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืฉืœ ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื‘ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืฉืœืš, ื‘ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืฉืœ ื”ืื™ืฉื™ื•ืช ืฉืœืš?
ืช: ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืฉืœื” ื”ื™ื”, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžืขื˜ ืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืœื›ื•ืœื, ื“ืจืš ื—ื™ื™ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ, ื‘ื‘ื™ื’ื•ื“, ื‘ืฆืจื›ื ื•ืช, ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื”ื™ื•ื. ื‘ืงืจื‘ื” ืœื˜ื‘ืข, ื˜ื™ื•ืœื™ื, ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ื ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ืขืฆืžื ืื—ื“ ืœืฉื ื™, ืฉืžื—ืช ื—ื™ื™ื, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื™ืจื”. ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืฉืชืคืกื” ืžืงื•ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื‘ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช ืœืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”, ื”ื™ื ืชืคืกื” ื’ื ืžืงื•ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ืžืœื‘ื“ ื–ื” ืฉืฉืจื• ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ืฉื™ืจื™ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืฉืจื• ื’ื ืฉื™ืจื™ ืขื ื’ืจืžื ื™ื™ื, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื™ืคื™ื ื•ืจื‘ื™ื, ื•ื‘ื™ื ื ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ืขืฆืžื ื’ื ื˜ื™ืคื—ื• ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืงืœืืกื™ืช. ืขื“ ื”ื™ื•ื ื”ื–ื”, ื•ืงืฆืช ื”ื•ืจืฉืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื’ื ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ืฉืฉืจื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืงื ื•ื ื™ื, ื›ื™ ืงื ื•ืŸ ื”ื•ื, ื›ื™ื“ื•ืข, ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ืžื”ื™ืจื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื”ื ืื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื‘ืŸ-ืื“ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ืขื ื•ืช ืœืฉื™ืจื” ื‘ืงื•ืœื•ืช ืจื‘ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืฉื™ืจ ืœื ื• ืฉื™ืจ ืื—ื“?
ืช: ื›ืžื” ืฉืืช ืจื•ืฆื”.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืฉื™ืจ ืื—ื“.
ืช: ืื ื™ ืืฉื™ืจ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืฉื™ืจ ืื—ื“ ืฉืœ ืžื•ืฆืืจื˜, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื˜ื‘ืข (ืฉืจื” ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช). ื–ื” ืฉื™ืจ ื‘ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืงื•ืœื•ืช. ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืจื” ื”ื™ืคื” ื”ื–ืืช, ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ื•ืœื” ืจื•ืžื ื˜ื™ืช, ื›ื•ืœื” ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ืชื•ื›ืŸ, ืืช ืžื‘ื™ื ื”, ืขืœ ื”ื˜ื‘ืข, ืขืœ ื”ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื˜ื‘ืข, ืฉืœ ืžืฆื‘ ืจื•ื— ื•ืฉืœ ืจื•ืžื ื˜ื™ืงื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืžื ื’ื™ื ื” ื”ื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืงืœืืกื™ืช, ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื•ื ื›ื›ื”, ืฉื›ืžื” ืฉื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜, ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืืช ื–ื” ืชื•ืš ืขืฉืจ ื“ืงื•ืช, ื•ืื—ืจื™ ืขื•ื“ ื—ืžืฉ ื“ืงื•ืช ืœืฉื™ืจ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืงื•ืœื•ืช ื•ืœื”ืชืขื ื’. ืœืžื“ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืœื ื’ืŸ ื‘ื—ืœื™ืœื™ืช, ืื– ื”ื™ื• ื—ื•ื’ื™ื ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ื ื™ื’ื ื• ื™ื—ื“. ื›ืืŸ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื” ื˜ื™ืคื•ื— ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ื”ืงืœืืกื™ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื›ืžื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื–ื›ืจืชื™ ืœืš, ืฉืื™ืฉ ื”ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื” ื•ื™ืฆื˜ื•ื ื”ื•ื ืžืžืฉืคื—ื” ื™ืงื™ืช, ื”ื•ื ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ื™ื•ื“ืข ื™ืคื” ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”, ื•ืืฉืชื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื™ื ืื™ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ื”ื•ื ื›ืชื‘ ืžืืžืจ ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื‘ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื™ื•ืฆืื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืขืœ ื›ืžื” ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืืฆืœ ื™ืงื™ื. ื–ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”, ื–ื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืžืื•ื“, ื•ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื–ื“ื”ื•ืช ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื’ื ื–ื›ื™ืชื™ ืœื–ื”, ื›ื™ ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืขื ืจื‘ื™ืขื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื™ื“ืŸ, ื•ื–ื” ื ืฉืืจ ืืฆืœื™ ื—ื–ืง ืžืื•ื“ ื›ื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื™. ื‘ืžื•ื“ืข ืื• ืœื ื‘ืžื•ื“ืข ื–ื” ืงื™ื™ื ื’ื ืืฆืœ ื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื‘ืขืฆื ืืฆืœ ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื›ื•ืœื, ืื‘ืœ ืืฆืœ ื”ื ื›ื“ื™ื, ืœืฆืขืจื™, ืคื—ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืฉืจืช ืœื ื• ืฉื™ืจ ื ืคืœื, ืื•ืœื™ ืืช ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื™ืจ, ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืงืฉื•ืจ ืœื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ืื• ืฉืงืฉื•ืจ ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ?
ืช: ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืขืžืง ื‘ื™ืช-ืฉืืŸ, ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื˜ื•ื‘, ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื‘ืช ื‘ืงื™ื‘ื•ืฅ, ืื– ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื™ ืœื’ืœื‘ื•ืข, ืื– ืจืื™ืชื™ ืžืœืžืขืœื” ืืช ืขืžืง ื™ื–ืจืขืืœ. ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื”ื: ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืจ, ืฉืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžื™ืœื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ืฉื™ืจ ืขืœ ืขืžืง ื™ื–ืจืขืืœ. (ืฉืจื” ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืจ): "ื‘ืื” ืžื ื•ื—ื” ืœื™ื’ืข ื•ืžืจื’ื•ืข ืœืขืžืœ". ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื”ื, ืฉืืช ื”ืฉื™ืจ ืขืœ ืขืžืง ื™ื–ืจืขืืœ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื›ื™ ื‘ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืื ื—ื ื• ืœืžื“ื ื• ืืช ื–ื”. ืื™ืš ืœืžื“ื ื• ืืช ื–ื”? ืœืžื“ื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ื›ืฉื–ื” ื ื•ืฆืจ. ื–ื” ืฉื™ื™ืš ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืœืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื”ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื—ืžืฉ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ืฉืžืŸ. ื”ื™ื” ื ื’ื™ื“ ื”ืฉื•ืžืจ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจ ื•ื•ืจืงืœื•ื™ื“ื” ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื”ื™ื” ื”ื‘ื•ื ื™ื, ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื•ื”ื™ื” ืขื–ืจื. ืขื–ืจื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™. ื”ื™ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืงืžืจื“ืŸ. ื•ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื›ื•ืœืŸ ื—ื™ื• ื‘ืฉืœื•ื.
ืฉ: ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืชื—?
ืช: ืœื, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืชื—, ื–ื” ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืฉื›ืจื” ืื• ืงื ืชื”, ื–ื” ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื›ืœ ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ ืงื™ื‘ืœื” ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš ื—ื“ืจื™ื ืœืคื™ ื’ื•ื“ืœ ื”ืชื ื•ืขื”, ื•ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ืฉื ื‘ืฉืœื•ื ื•ื‘ืื—ื•ื•ื”. ืืช ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืžืกืคืจืช ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ื•ืœื ื›ื“ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ืฉืื ื™ ืขื ื”ืฉื•ืžืจ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืžืื•ื“. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื’ืื•ื•ืช ื”ื“ื’ืœ, ืฉื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื—ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื“ืจืš ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ื ื›ื•ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืื”. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืฉื—ืงื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืคื™ื ื’-ืคื•ื ื’, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœืžื˜ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื‘ืžืจืชืฃ ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ื—ื“ืจื™ ืคื™ื ื’-ืคื•ื ื’, ื•ืžื™ ืฉื‘ื ืฉื™ื—ืง. ืื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ืžื”ืฉื•ืžืจ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจ, ืื– ืฉื™ื—ืงืชื™ ืื™ืชื• ืคื™ื ื’-ืคื•ื ื’, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืขื™ื”. ืคืขื•ืœื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ืœื—ื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ื•ืคืขื•ืช ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ื”ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื•ืช. ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื”ื›ื™ืŸ, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ืคืขื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื”ื–ืžื ื• ืืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื•ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื ื’ื ืฉื™ืœืžื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ื›ื ื™ืกื”, ืื– ื›ื›ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืœื”ืจืฉื•ืช ืœืขืฆืžื ื• ื˜ื™ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื’ื•ืŸ ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืœื—ื•ื“. ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื ื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืฉื™ืจ "ื‘ืื” ืžื ื•ื—ื” ืœื™ื’ืข", ืื™ืš ืฉื–ื” ื”ื’ื™ืข ืืœื™ื ื•. ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ืฉืœื—ื• ืกืจื˜ ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืฉื—ื•ืจ ืœื‘ืŸ, ื•ืื ืื™ื ื ื™ ื˜ื•ืขื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืื™ืœื ื•ืจืง ืขื ืœื™ื•ื•ื™ ืฉืœ ืžื ื’ื™ื ื•ืช ื•ืฉืœ ื”ืกื‘ืจื™ื, ืื ืื™ื ื ื™ ื˜ื•ืขื”. ืื– ื”ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ืฉื›ืจื” ืงื•ืœื ื•ืข ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืœืคื ื™-ื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื›ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืชืคื•ืก, ืื– ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื™ืงืจ, ื•ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉื›ื•ืจ ืืช ื–ื”. ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื›ืจื ื• ืืช ื”ื›ืจื˜ื™ืกื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื—ื ื• ื–ื” ื›ืœ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืžื™ืœืื ื• ืืช ื”ืื•ืœื ืขื ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ื•ืขื ื”ืžื›ืจื™ื, ื•ื”ืจืื• ืกืจื˜ ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืื ื™, ื›ืžื• ื”ื™ื•ื, ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืขื•ื“ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜, ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ื—ืœื•ืฅ ืžืขื™ืŸ-ื—ืจื•ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืชื’ืœื—, ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฉืจ "ื‘ืื” ืžื ื•ื—ื” ืœื™ื’ืข", ื–ื” ื ืžืฆื ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื’ื“ ืขื™ื ื™. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื”ื™ืฉื ื™ื ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืฉืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ืื•ืชื ื›ืจื’ืข, ืื‘ืœ ืœืžืฉืœ (ืฉืจื” ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืจ) "ืื•ื™, ืื•ื™, ืื•ื™ ื ืขืœื™ื™ื, ื‘ืœื™ ืกื•ืœื™ื•ืช ื ืขืœื™ื™ื, ื•ื”ืื‘ืŸ ืฆื•ืจื‘ืช ืืช ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื™ื, ืฆื•ืจื‘ืช, ืฆื•ืจื‘ืช, ืฆื•ืจื‘ืช. ืื™ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ, ืื™ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ, ืื™ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ, ืื™ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ, ืื™ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ, ื—ืœื•ืฅ, ื—ืœื•ืฅ, ื‘ื ื” ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื, ื‘ื ื”, ื‘ื ื”, ื‘ื ื”, ื‘ื ื”, ื‘ื ื”". ื–ื” ืฉื™ืจ ืฉืœ ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืขืฉืจื™ื ื›ืฉืื‘ื ื™ื ืฆืจื‘ื• ืืช ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื™ื. ื–ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขื ืžื›ื ืกื™ื™ื ืงืจื•ืขื™ื. ื›ื›ื” ืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ืืช ื›ืœ ื–ื” ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ.
ืฉ: ืื ื™ ืžื‘ื™ื ื” ืฉืืช ื”ื™ื™ืช ืืคื™ืœื• ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื›ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ืงื•ื“ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื—ื ื™ื›ื”, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ืžืื•ื“ ืฆืขื™ืจ, ื›ื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื• ื—ืกืจื™ื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ. ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืฉืœ ื‘ื ื™ื ื•ื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ืื• ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืžืชื—ืชื™.
ืฉ: ื ืชืชื ืฉื ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช ื’ื ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื“ืชื™?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ืฉืžืจื ื• ืฉื‘ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืจืง ื–ื”, ืืœื ื”ืœื›ื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืœืชืคื™ืœื”, ื”ืœื›ื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืœืžื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉืจื ื• ืฉื™ืจื™ื, ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืขื•ื ื’ ืฉื‘ืช ื•ื”ื‘ื“ืœื”, ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜. ื”ืื™ื“ื™ืืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื—ืงืœืื™ืช, ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื•ืœืฉืžื•ืจ ืขืœ ื”ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื‘ืขืจืš ื›ื›ื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื• ื”ื™ื• ืฉื™ืจื™ื ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืฉื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœื’ื•ืœื” ื•ืฉืจื ื• ืื•ืชื ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื’ื‘, ื’ื ื”ื•ืฆื™ืื• ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืฉื™ืจื•ื ื™ื ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช.
ืฉ: ืื–?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื–. ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ืžืฉื”ื•, ื•ืฉืจื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื™ืจื™ื. ืฉืจื ื• ื’ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื ื™ื’ื•ื ื™ื ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ื™ื, ื–ื” ืื’ื‘, ื‘ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœื™ื—ืก ืœืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ. ื‘ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืคื™ืœื• ืจื•ืžื ื˜ื™ืงื” ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœืื•ืกื˜-ื™ื•ื“ืŸ, ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™.
ืฉ: ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ื™ื ืืช ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉืฉืจืชื?
ืช: (ืฉืจื” ืžื ื’ื™ื ื” ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ืช) ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื” ืฉืจื ื•. ื–ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ, ืืคื™ืœื• ืื”ื‘ื ื• ื“ื•ื•ืงื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ืžื• ืžืจื“ ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืชื•ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืฉื”ืชื ื’ื“ื ื• ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ื˜ืงืกื™ื•ืช ืžื•ืคืจื–ืช, ื•ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขืžืžื™ื™ื. ืœื›ืŸ, ืจืื™ื ื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ืฉืœ ื”ื—ืกื™ื“ื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื—ื™ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืžื—.
ืฉ: ื ืžืฉื›ืชื ืœื—ืกื™ื“ื•ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื ืžืฉื›ื ื• ืœื—ืกื™ื“ื•ืช, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ืžืฉื”ื• ืžืŸ ื”ืจื•ืžื ื˜ื™ืงื”, ืฉื”ืชื‘ื˜ืื” ืืฆืœ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ื‘ืฉืœื”ื, ื•ืืฆืœื ื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื”ื–ืืช. ื—ืฉื ื• ืฉื™ืฉ ื›ืืŸ ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื—ืกืจ ื‘ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ ืื ื—ื ื• ื˜ื™ืคื—ื ื• ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื’ื ื‘ืชื•ืš ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื ื’ื™ื“ ื›ืฉื™ืฆืื• ืกืคืจื™ื ืฉืœ ืชื•ืžืก ืžืืŸ ืงืจืื ื• ื›ื•ืœื ื•.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ืœื ื‘ืœื‘ืœ ืืชื›ื ืฉืžืฆื“ ืื—ื“ ื–ื” ื•ืžืฆื“ ืื—ื“ ื–ื”?
ืช: ืœื, ืœื, ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื. ืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ืืคื™ืœื• ืื‘ื ืฉืœื™, ืฉืกื™ืคืจืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ื“ืข, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืžื™ืœื” ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืฉืžืข ืฉื ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ. ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืื•ืชื ื˜ื™, ืื– ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ืขืฆื ืœืฉื™ืจ ืฉื™ืจ ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื‘ื™ื ื”ื‘ื™ืชื” ืื™ื–ื” ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืกืคืจื™ื ืขื ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืฉืจ ืื•ืชื. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืœืฉื™ืจ ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ืื•ืœื™ ืจืง ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื™ืจ ืื—ื“, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืžื ื’ื™ื ื•ืช ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขืชื™. (ืฉืจื” ืืช ื”ืžื ื’ื™ื ื” ืฉืœ ืืœ"ืฃ ื‘ื™"ืช).
ืฉ: ืื ื ืกื›ื ืืช ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ...
ืช: ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ืฆืื ื• ืžื˜ืขื ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืœื˜ื™ื•ืœื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืื• ื‘ืงื™ืฅ ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื“ื•ื’ืžื, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื˜ื™ื•ืœ, ืฉืื’ื‘, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื›ื™ ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”, ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”. ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื˜ื™ื•ืœ ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ื‘ืฉืœื–ื™ื”, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื›ืกืฃ, ื•ื”ื’ืขื ื• ืœืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ื‘ืขืจื‘. ืื– ื ื™ื’ืฉื ื• ืฉื ืœืื™ื›ืจ, ื•ืฉืืœื ื• ืื•ืชื•, ื”ืื ืžื•ืชืจ ืœื ื• ืœืœื•ืŸ ื‘ืืกื ืฉืœื•? ืื– ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื ื•: ื›ืŸ. ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืœืืกื, ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืืกื ืฉืœ ืงืฉ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ื•ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืฉื—ืช, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื™ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘, ื›ื™ ื™ืฉ ืœื–ื” ื’ื ืจื™ื— ื˜ื•ื‘, ื•ื™ืฉื ื• ืฉื. ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžื™ื ืขื ืžืฉืื‘ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื™ื ืงื•ืœื—ื™ื ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ื›ืคืจื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ืฉืชื™ื ื• ืฉื ืžื™ื, ื•ืœืžื—ืจืช ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืœื˜ื™ื•ืœ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ. ืงื ื™ื ื• ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื ื•ืช ื‘ื“ืจืš. ืื”ื‘ื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืœื˜ื™ื™ืœ. ื›ืœ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื• ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉืžื—ื”, ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื™ืจื” ื•ื‘ืคืฉื˜ื•ืช ืžืื•ื“, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžืคื•ื ืงื™ื. ืœืžื“ื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขืœ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืื ื‘ื ืื™ื–ื” ืฉืœื™ื—, ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฉื, ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืขื•ืœื”.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ื ืชืŸ ืœื›ื ืจื’ืฉ ืฉืœ ืฉื™ื™ื›ื•ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื–ื” ื ืชืŸ ืœื ื• ืจื’ืฉ ืฉืœ ืฉื™ื™ื›ื•ืช. ืœื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ืœื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื, ืจืง ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื›ื•ืœื ืงื•ืคืกื” ืฉืœ ื”ืงืจืŸ ื”ืงื™ื™ืžืช, ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื”ืงืจืŸ ื”ืงื™ื™ืžืช. ืฉื›ื—ืชื™, ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืื—ื•ืจื ื™ืช. ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื”ืชื—ืชื ื• ื‘ืฉื ืช 1912, ื›ืคื™ ืฉื›ื‘ืจ ืืžืจืชื™, ืื‘ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื, ื•ืื™ืžื ื‘ืื” ืžื‘ื™ืช ืืžื™ื“, ืื– ื›ื ืจืื” ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืจืฉื•ืช ืœืขืฆืžื, ืื– ืžืกืขื•ื“ืช ื”... . ืื’ื‘, ื”ืžื•ืฉื’ื™ื ืฉืœ ืžื” ื–ื” ื—ืชื•ื ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืื• ืงื˜ื ื”. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืžืจืชื™, ืกื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืื™ืฉ ืžืื•ื“ ืžื›ื•ื‘ื“ ื‘ืงื”ื™ืœืชื•, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื™ืฉ ืืžื™ื“. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ื›ืชื‘ ืื•ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื•ื’ืจืคื™ื”, ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืžื ื• ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืŸ ืฉื‘ืขื™ื. ืื™ืžื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื‘ืช ื”ื‘ื›ื™ืจื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืœื” ื—ืชื•ื ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื‘ืขื™ื ืื•ืจื—ื™ื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืกืขื•ื“ื”, ื•ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืกืขื•ื“ื” ืžื” ืขืฉื• ื”ื•ืจื™ื™? ื”ื ืืžืจื• ืฉืœื•ื, ื”ืœื›ื• ืœืชื—ื ืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช, ื•ื ืกืขื• ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ.
ืฉ: ื‘ืื™ื–ื• ืฉื ื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”?
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื ืช 1912, ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ืœืคื ื™ ืคืจื•ืฅ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืคื” ื‘ืืจืฅ ื›ืžื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื’ื•ืกื˜ ืขื“ ืกื•ื›ื•ืช, ื‘ืกื•ื›ื•ืช ื”ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื—ื–ืจื”, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื”ื ื•ืจืื™ื ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืืจืฅ. ื–ื” ืขืฉื” ืœื”ื ื“ื‘ืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื, ืฉืื‘ื ื›ืชื‘ ืฉื, ืฉื›ืžื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื™ืฉืืจ ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ืจื•ืื” ืฉื•ื ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก ืืœื ื‘ืžืงืฆื•ืข ื”ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ืจื•ืคื ืขื•ืจ, ื•ืื™ืŸ ืžื™ ืฉื™ืจืฆื” ืืช ื–ื”. ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ ืื– ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืจืคื•ืืช ืขื•ืจ.
ืฉ: ืืช ืžืชืืจืช ืœื ื• ื™ืœื“ื•ืช ื ืขื™ืžื”, ืื™ืš ื–ื” ืžืฉืชื ื”?
ืช: ืœื, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื›ื›ื”, ื™ืฉ ืคื ื™ื ื•ื™ืฉ ื—ื•ืฅ. ื›ืœ ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ืขืฆืžื™ื™ื ื‘ืชื•ื›ื ื•, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืืคืฉืจื™, ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ืจื™ื“ื”. ืืช ืฉืืœืช ืื•ืชื™ ืขืœ ืื™ืžื ืฉืœื™, ืื– ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืขืฉืจื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ืจื™ื“ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืขื•ื–ืจืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ืื– ืื™ืžื ืืžืจื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“. ื–ื” ื”ืชื‘ื˜ื ื›ื›ื”. ืจืฆื• ืœืชืช ืœื ื• ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื•ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื™ืงืจ, ื›ื™ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืขืœื” ื›ืกืฃ, ื’ื ืœืžื“ื ื• ืœื ื’ืŸ, ื•ืœืžื“ื ื• ืขื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ืœื›ืŸ ืื™ืžื ืืžืจื” ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืขื•ื“ ืœื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื—, ื”ืžืฉืจืชืช ืขื–ืจื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื•ืื™ืžื ื”ืœื›ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“. ื‘ืžื” ื”ื™ื ืขื‘ื“ื”? ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ืœืžื“ื” ืืช ื–ื”, ืืœื ื”ื™ื ืœืžื“ื” ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืกืžื™ื ืจ ืœืžื•ืจื•ืช ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฆืขื™ืจื”, ื”ื™ื ื’ืžืจื” ืื•ืชื•, ื”ื™ื ื™ื“ืขื” ื™ืคื” ืฉืคื•ืช, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืžืฉื›ื™ืœื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื ืœื ืขื‘ื“ื” ืืฃ ืคืขื ื‘ืžืงืฆื•ืข ืฉืœื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืื™ืžื ื™ื“ืขื” ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื™ื ื™ื“ืขื” ืœืงืจื•ื ื˜ื•ื‘. ืื‘ืœ, ืื– ื”ื™ื ืจืฆืชื” ืœื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื—, ืื– ื”ื™ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื” ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื›ืกืคืจื ื™ืช ื‘ืกืคืจื™ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื. ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืกืคืจื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื” ื•ืžืื•ื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืœืงื—ื• ืื•ืชื”, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ืžื” ืฉ ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืขื“ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืœื ื ืžืฆืื• ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืกืคืจื™ื ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืื•ืœื™ ื’ื ื ืฉืจืคื• ืื• ื ืฉืžื“ื•. ืื‘ืœ ืงืฆืช ื”ืชืคื–ืจื•, ื•ืงืฆืช ืขื ืื™ื ืงื•ืคื•ืœื™ื ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืžื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืกืคืจื ื™ืช ื—ืฆื™ ื™ื•ื. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื ืžืฉื›ื•. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื•ืš ืื•ืชื” ืžืกื’ืจืช, ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืžืกื’ืจืช ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืชื ื›ืœื•ืช, ืืœื ืžื”, ืจืื• ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื ืขืฉื• ืงืฉื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ื›ืฉื›ื‘ืจ ืคืชืื•ื ืžืขืฉืจื™ื ืฆื™ืจื™ื ื‘ืจื™ื™ื›ืกื˜ืื’ ืื• ืžืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ื—ืžื™ืฉื”, ื”ื ืขืœื• ื‘ื‘ืช-ืื—ืช ืžืขืœ ืœืžืื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘-31', ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืื•ื•ื™ืจื” ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ื”ืคื—ื™ื“ ืืชื›ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ืคื—ื™ื“ ื›ืœ ืื—ื“, ืื• ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื–ื” ื–ืขื–ืข ืžืื•ื“. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืงื•ืœื ื™ื™ื ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื“ื’ืœื™ื ืฉืœื”ื, ื•ื”ื ืขืฉื• ืชื”ืœื•ื›ื•ืช ื•ืฆืขืงื•ืช. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืชื ื›ืœื•ืช, ืื– ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ื‘ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ, ื’ื ื‘ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ื”ื›ืœืœื™: ื‘ื™ื•ื ื”ื–ื” ื”ื›ื• ืืช ื”ืขื•ืจืš-ื“ื™ืŸ ืืฉืจ ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ืงื˜ื’ื•ืจื™ื” ื ื’ื“ ื ืืฆื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ ืžื™ืฉื”ื•. ืื– ื”ืชื ื›ืœื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ื‘ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ. ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘: ื”ืขื•ืจืš-ื“ื™ืŸ ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš, ืขื ืฉื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื”ื›ื• ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘. ื–ื” ื”ื•ืคื™ืข ื›ื‘ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘-33'?
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘-31', ืื– ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืงืจื”. ืื– ืื ืชืคืกื• ืืช ืืœื” ืฉื”ื›ื• ื‘-31' ืื– ื”ื ื”ื•ื‘ืื• ืœืžืฉืคื˜ ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื’ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกื•ื”ืจ, ืื• ืฉื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขืžื™ื ื”ื ื’ื ื ืขืœืžื•. ืื‘ืœ, ืขืฆื ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื–ื” ืงืจื” ื–ื” ื”ืคืจื™ืข.
ืฉ: ื–ืืช ืื•ืžืจืช, ืืชื ื›ื‘ืจ ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืž-31' ืฉื™ืฉ ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉื™ื ื•ื™?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืขื ืŸ ืงืฉื” ืœื ืฉืœ ื”ืื ืงืœื™ื–ื•ื ื’, ืื‘ืœ ืขืœื™ื” ืฉืœ ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื•ืช ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื•ืจื’ืฉื” ืžืื•ื“. ืœื ืงืจืื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš, ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื“ืขื ื•, ืื• ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ืงืจืื ื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื’ื ืœื ื”ื•ืจื™ื™, ืืช ื”ืกืคืจ ืžื™ื™ืŸ ืงืืžืฃ ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ื–ื” ืœื. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขื ื• ืฉื™ืฉ ืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ืช, ื•ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขื ื• ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื”ื ืื’ืจืกื™ื‘ื™ื™ื. ื”ื ืขืฉื• ืชื”ืœื•ื›ื•ืช, ื•ื”ื ืฉืจื•, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืจ ื”ืื™ื•ื ื”ื–ื”: ื›ืืฉืจ ื“ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื ื™ืชื– ืื– ื”ื›ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘.
ืฉ: ื•ืžืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉืžืขืชื ืืช ื–ื”?
ืช: ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉืžืขื ื• ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœืช ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื, ืขื•ื“ ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืขืœื” ืœืฉืœื˜ื•ืŸ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื”ื ืฆืขืงื•, ืื– ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืืคื™ืœื• ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ื‘ืฆื“ ืฉืฉืžืขื• ืืช ื–ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื›ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ-ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื ื•ืœื ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื, ืฉื”ื ืืžืจื• ืœื”ื: ืื™ืš ืืชื ืฆื•ืขืงื™ื ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ. ืื ื™ ืื™ืฉื™ืช ืœื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ืืœื ื‘ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ. ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงืฆืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืื– ืœืžืฉืœ ื”ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ื“ื”-ืฉื˜ื™ืจืžืจ ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ื•ื™ื˜ืจื™ื ื”, ืื– ืขืžื“ื• ืฉื ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ื•ืงืจืื•. ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืกืงืจื ื™ืช, ื•ื’ื ืื ื™ ืงืจืืชื™. ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉื ืฉื›ืœ ื”ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืงืจื™ืงื˜ื•ืจื•ืช, ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื ื’ื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืžื•ืฆืฆื™ื ืืช ื“ืžื ื•, ืฉืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืจื•ื’ ืื•ืชื.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื‘ืืžืช ืขื•ืžื“ืช ื ืขืจื” ื›ืžื•ืš, ื ืขืจื” ืฆืขื™ืจื” ื•ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ื™ืฉ, ืžืฆื“ ืื—ื“, ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื”ืชื ื›ืœื•ื™ื•ืช, ื•ืžืฆื“ ืฉื ื™, ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื™ืงื˜ื•ืจื•ืช ืฉืืช ืžืกืคืจืช ื‘ื“ื”-ืฉื˜ื™ืจืžืจ ื•ื’ื ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ื. ืื™ืš ืืช ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื”?
ืช: ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืžืื•ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ืฉื‘ืช ื”ื–ืืช ืฉืœ ื”ื—ืจื. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื™ื•ื ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ื”ืขื™ืจื”, ืœื ื’ืจืชื™ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืขื™ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืฉื ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœื›ืช ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช, ื•ืจืื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”, ื–ื” ื ื•ืจื ื–ืขื–ืข ืื•ืชื™, ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ื–ืขื–ืข ืื•ืชื™. ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื ืฉืžืข ืขืœ ืื•ืชื” ื”ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื•ืช ื”ืžืชื’ื‘ืจืช ืื• ืขืœ ื”ืขืœื™ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื•ื“ืจืš ื”ื”ืชื‘ื˜ืื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื, ื–ื” ื•ื“ืื™ ื–ืขื–ืข ืื•ืชื™. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื‘ื™ื ืื•ืชื™ ืœื“ื›ื“ื•ืš ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™, ืœืฆืขืจ ื•ืœื”ืชื ื’ื“ื•ืช, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืœื ืœืคืกื™ืžื™ื•ืช ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืฉื”ื ื™ื ืฆื—ื•, ื–ื” ืœื. ื–ื” ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืœื ื”ืกืชื“ืจ ืขื ืจืื™ื™ืช ืขื•ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื•ืคื˜ื™ืžื™ืช ื›ืœืœื™ืช, ื–ื” ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”. ื”ืฆื˜ืขืจืชื™, ืฉื–ื” ืงืจื”, ื•ื“ืื’ืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ืงืจื”. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืขื•ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื“ืื’ื•. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื ืคืชืื•ื ืงืคืฆื• ืžืžืื” ื•ื›ืžื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืœืจื•ื‘, ื•ืื– ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืืช ืจืืฉื•ืช ื”ืžืžืฉืœื”. ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ื”ื ืฉื™ื ื”ืžื˜ื•ืžื˜ื ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื ื“ื ื‘ื•ืจื’, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื–ืžื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืจืืฉ ื”ืžืžืฉืœื”. ืื– ืฉืจืคื• ืืช ื”ืจื™ื™ื›ืกื˜ืื’, ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื–ื• ื”ืฆืชื”, ื•ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื‘ื–ื” ื”ื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื”ืจื•ื’ ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื”, ืืช ื”ืจื™ื™ื›ืกื˜ืื’, ืืช ื”ืคืจืœืžื ื˜, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืกืžืœื™ ืื‘ืœ, ืืคืฉืจื™, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืขืœื” ืžืžืฉ ืœืฉืœื˜ื•ืŸ, ื•ืื– ืžื™ื“, ืžื™ื“ ื”ื•ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืœื™ื’ืืœื™ืช, ื›ื‘ื™ื›ื•ืœ, ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ื—ื•ืงื™ื.
ืฉ: ื ืชื—ื™ืœ ืžื”ื—ืจื ื”ื›ืœื›ืœื™, ืื™ืš ื–ื” ืžืฉืคื™ืข ืขืœื™ื›ื?
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ืฉืคื™ืข, ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ืœืื‘ื™ ืขื•ื“ ืžื•ืชืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ืืกืจื• ืขืœ ืืจื™ื™ื ืœื‘ื•ื ืืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืจืง ืื—ืจื™ ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’ ื‘-35'. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ืชื‘ื˜ื. ื”ื’ื•ื™ื™ื ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืื• ืืœ ืื‘ื, ืœื”ืชืจืคื ื”ื ื‘ืื•. ื”ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื”ื ืขืฉื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื ื’ื“ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ. ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ื’ื ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™, ื•ืื– ืชืจืื™ ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื” ื”ืงืฉืจ, ืœื ืจืง ืงืฉืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื”ื™ื” ืžืฆื‘ ืฉื”ืจื’ืฉื ื•, ื”ืฆื˜ืขืจื ื•, ื“ืื’ื ื•. ื“ืื’ื ื• ืื™ืš ื–ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื” ืฉื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืžืชืงืœืงืœ ื”ืขื. ืื‘ืœ, ืฉืžืขื ื• ื’ื ืจื“ื™ื•, ืœืกื‘ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืœื™ ืจื“ื™ื•, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืจื“ื™ื• ื‘ืงื•ืœื™ ืงื•ืœื•ืช ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช. ื›ืฉื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืขืœื”, ืื– ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžืฆื“ ื”ืžืžืฉืœื” ื’ื ืฉืžืขื• ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช, ื•ื’ื ืฉืžืขื• ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืจืžืงื•ืœื™ื, ืฉื”ื ืขืฉื• ืชื”ืœื•ื›ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื• ืœืงื ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื—ืจื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ. ื”ื—ืจื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ืช, ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ืกื’ื•ืจื•ืช, ื•ื‘ื™ื•ื ืฉื ื™...
ืฉ: ื”ื—ืจื ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—?
ืช: ืœื, ื”ื—ืจื ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—, ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื• ืœืงื ื•ืช ืืฆืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื.
ืฉ: ื•ื–ื” ื”ื•ืจื’ืฉ ื‘ืขื™ืจ ืฉืœื›ื ืฉื”ื—ืจื ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—?
ืช: ื”ื—ืจื ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื•, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”, ื•ื”ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ื’ื ืœืขื•ืจืจ ืืช ื”ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื™ื”. ื”ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ื•ื“ืื™ ืœืžืฉื•ืš ืืœื™ื”ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืืœื” ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืœื ืคืขื™ืœื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืœื ืื”ื‘ื• ืืช ื”ื ืืฆื™ื. ืื– ื”ื ื—ืฉื‘ื•, ืฉืื•ืœื™ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืฆื•ื“ืงื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื•ืœื˜ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™, ื•ืžืจื•ื•ื™ื—ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™. ืื‘ืœ, ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืฉืคื™ืข, ื”ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื• ื•ื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื—ื•. ืื– ื›ื™ื“ื•ืข, ื”ืจื™ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืงื ื” ืืช ืœื‘ ื”ืขื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ืจืง ืืช ืœื‘ ื”ืขื, ืืœื ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ื’ื ืœื›ื‘ื•ืฉ, ืื– ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื”ืกื›ื ื•ืจืกืื™ ื•ื”ื›ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ืงื™ื ืืช ื”ืชืขืฉื™ื™ื” ื”ืžืœื—ืžืชื™ืช, ื–ื” ื”ื‘ื™ื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ื‘ื™ื›ื•ืœ, ืคืจื™ื—ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื•ื”ื™ื• ืคื—ื•ืช ืžื—ื•ืกืจื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืงื ื” ื’ื ืืช ืœื™ื‘ื. ืื– ื”ื ื” ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื... . ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืชื‘ื˜ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ, ืœื ื‘ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช, ื•ื ื’ื™ื“, ืœื ืืฆืœ ืื‘ื, ื–ื” ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื ื”ืฉืคื™ืข. ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื” ืฉืืฆืœื ื”ื•ืจื’ืฉ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ื™ ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ืืœื” ืฉื”ืคืกื™ื“ื• ืืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื โ€“ ืฉื•ืคื˜ื™ื, ืขื•ืจื›ื™-ื“ื™ืŸ.
ืฉ: ืืช ืžื“ื‘ืจืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืขืœ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’?
ืช: ืœื, ืขื•ื“ ืœื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื™ื“ ืฉื•ืคื˜ื™ื ื•ื›ื•'. ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืคื™ื˜ืจื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืื ืฉื™ื, ื’ื ืžื•ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืขื•ื“ ืœื ืืช ื›ื•ืœื.
ืฉ: ืื‘ื ืฉืœืš ืขื•ื“ ืžืžืฉื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื›ืœ ืืœื” ืฉืขื‘ื“ื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืคืจื˜ื™ ืขื•ื“ ื™ื›ืœื•, ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื—ื™ื™ืœื™ื ื‘ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ืฉืžื™ืฆื• ื’ื ืืช ืืœื” ืฉื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื”ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจืื™ื ื—ื–ื™ืช. ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื•ืคื˜ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื ืคืœื˜ื•, ื›ืœ ืืœื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืขื‘ื•ื“. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ื”ืžืžืฉืœืชื™ื™ื ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ืœ ืืœื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืคื•ื˜ืจื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืœ ื”ื”ืชืงื“ืžื•ืช, ืฉื”ื”ืชืงื“ืžื•ืช ื”ื™ื ื ืกื™ื’ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืื—ืจืช, ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ื•ืช ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื“ืจื’ืชื™. ื”ืฉืœื‘ ื”ืงืฉื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’ ื‘-35'. ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœืžืฉืœ ืœื›ืืœื” ื›ืžื• ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืชืจ ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ื’ื•ื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื‘ื’ื•ื™ื•ืช ืืœื ืžื’ื™ืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื ื•ื—ืžืฉ ื•ืื™ืœืš ื•ืœื”ืขืกื™ืง.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’. ืคืจื˜ื™ื ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืื‘ื ืขื•ื“ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื›ืจื•ืคื ืขื“ 38', ืฉืื– ืืกืจื• ืขืœ ื›ื•ืœื.
ืฆื“ ืฉืœื™ืฉื™: (31.03.08)
ืื‘ื™, ืฉื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื, ื˜ื™ืคืœ ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื, ื”ื™ื• ืœื• ื’ื ืคืฆื™ื™ื ื˜ื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืžืžืฉ ืžืขืžืš, ื›ืžื• ืฉืื•ืžืจื™ื. ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ืื”ื‘ื• ืืช ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ื“ื•ืข, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื—ืœืง ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืคืจื•ืคื•ืจืฆื™ื•ื ืืœื™ืช ืœืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื” ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื” ืœืจื•ืคืื™ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื ืฉืœ ืจื•ืคืื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืื• ืฉื”ื™ื—ืก ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื ื•ืฉื™?
ืช: ืฉื ื™ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื ื—ืฉื‘ื™ื ืœื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ืช ื•ื’ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื™ื—ืก ื”ื™ืคื” ืืœ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื™ื“ื•ืข. ืื‘ื ืขื‘ื“ ืื™ืชื, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื ื‘ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ืžื• ืงื•ืคืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฆืช ืฉื•ื ื” ืžืืฉืจ ื‘ืงื•ืคื•ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื. ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืฉื, ืื•ืžื ื ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื’ื ืคืจื˜ื™, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื‘ืงื•ืคืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื. ืื‘ื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื™ืฉื™, ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืชืงืฉืจ ืืœ ื›ืœ ืื“ื, ื•ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืื•ืชื ื˜ื™ ืฉื‘ืื“ื, ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉืžืฉืš ืื•ืชื•. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ, ื’ื ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ืชืจื‘ื•ืช, ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ื™ืคืฉ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื•ืชื ื˜ื™, ื•ืœื ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœ ื›ื‘ืจ ืขื™ื‘ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ืžืชืื™ืžื™ื ืœื˜ื‘ืข. ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“. ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื—ืฅ ืฉืœ ื—ืจื, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืฉืคื™ืข ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ืขืœ ื”ืงื”ืœ, ื›ื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืืกื•ืจ ืœื”ื ืœื‘ื•ื. ืื– ื ืืฆื™ื ืœื ื‘ืื•, ื•ื’ื ื ืืฆื™ื ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืœืื•ืžื ื™ื™ื, ืื•ืœื™, ื’ื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืœื ื‘ืื• ืืœื™ื•. ืื‘ืœ ืกืชื ืขืžืš ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื– ืขื•ื“ ื ืืฆื™ื, ื•ืืœื” ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืฆื‘ื™ืขื• ืœืžืคืœื’ื” ื”ื ืืฆื™ืช, ืื– ื”ื ื”ืฆื‘ื™ืขื• ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื™ื™ืžื• ืขืœื™ื”ื, ืื• ืฉื”ื ื›ืŸ ื ืคืœื• ืงื•ืจื‘ืŸ ืœืคืจื•ืคื’ื ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื’ื‘ืœืก. ืœื›ืŸ, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืฉืชื ื”. ื–ื” ื”ืฉืชื ื” ื›ืืฉืจ ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ื—ื•ืงื™.
ืฉ: ื‘ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’, ื•ื–ื” ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืœื ืฉื™ื ืžื’ื™ืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื ื•ื—ืžืฉ ื•ืžืขืœื” ืฉืœื ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ื”ืŸ, ืื– ื–ื” ืฆืžืฆื ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ืฉืชื ื” ืื– ื”ื™ื—ืก. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืฉืื‘ื ื›ืžื• ื›ื•ืœื ื•, ืœื ืจืง ื’ื™ื ื™ื ื•, ืืœื ื”ืฆื˜ืขืจื ื•, ื›ืื‘ ืœื ื•, ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœื ื–ืง ื”ื›ืœื›ืœื™, ืฉื™ืฉ ืชื•ืคืขื•ืช ื›ืืœื”. ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืงื™ื•ื•ื”, ื’ื ืื ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืฉื–ืืช ืชื•ืคืขื” ืฉืœ ืกื˜ื™ื™ื” ื–ืžื ื™ืช. ืœื ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืชื—ื–ืง ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืฉื›ืœ ื”ืคื ื˜ื–ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืœื›ื‘ื•ืฉ ืืช ื”ืขื•ืœื, ื•ื‘ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ื”ื–ืืช ืœื”ืฉืžื™ื“ ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืœื ื”ืืžื™ื ื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ื“ืขืช, ื‘ืฉื•ื ืื•ืคืŸ ืœื. ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ืื ืฉื™ื ืคืกื™ืžื™ื™ื ืฉืขื–ื‘ื• ืžื™ื“ ื•ื›ื•', ื”ื ืœื ื”ืืžื™ื ื• ืฉื–ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืžื” ืฉื–ื” ื”ื’ื™ืข, ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื™. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื”, ืื•ืœื™ ืจืง ื‘ื•ื“ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ืœืกื‘ื•ืœ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืืคื™ืœื• ื›ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื“ืจื’ื” ืฉื ื™ื™ื”, ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ืช, ืฉืžืื™ื™ืžื™ื ืขืœื™ื”ื, ืฉืžืกื™ืชื™ื ื ื’ื“ื, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืชืขื ื•ื’. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืœ ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื ืžืฉื›ื•, ื•ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ืืœื• ื”ื™ื” ืกื™ืคื•ืง, ืื– ืื—ื“ ืกื‘ืœ ืžื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื• ืกื‘ืœ ืคื—ื•ืช, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœืคื™ ื˜ื‘ืขื•, ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ื ื•ื’ืข ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ, ืื ื™ ืืžืฉื™ืš ืจืง ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ืื‘ื. ื–ื›ื•ืจ ืœื™, ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืฉื ืช 37'-38' ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื”ืกืชื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืขื•ื“ ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ-ื ืื›ื˜, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืขื•ื“ ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืืกื•ืจ ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื. ืงืจื” ืคืขื ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”, ืœืื‘ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ื—ื“ืจื™ื ื‘ื“ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื ื•, ื—ื“ืจ ืื—ื“ ืœื”ืžืชื ื” ื•ื—ื“ืจ ืื—ื“ ืœื˜ื™ืคื•ืœ. ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืœื ืขื‘ื“, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื‘ืื• ืืœื™ื•, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื ืืœื™ื• ื—ื•ืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื‘ืœ ื–ืจื™ืงื”. ื”ื—ื•ืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืื™ืฉ ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžื”ืขื, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉ ืœื‘ื•ื. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื, ืื‘ื ื ืชืŸ ืœื• ื–ืจื™ืงื”, ืฉื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื›ืžื•ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื ืชืŸ ื›ื‘ืจ ืคืขืžื™ื ืจื‘ื•ืช, ื•ื”ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ื ืจืื”, ื”ื™ื•ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืืช ื–ื”, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืืœืจื’ื™ืช, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืžืฆื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ื‘ื”ื™ื•ืชื• ืืฆืœื ื•. ืื–, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืคืขื ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื”, ืฉืื‘ื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ืžืฆื‘, ืฉืื ื”ื•ื ื™ืžื•ืช, ื™ืืฉื™ืžื• ืืช ืื‘ื ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ ืื•ืชื• ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื˜ืœืคืŸ ืืœ ืจื•ืคื ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืœืคื™ื ื”.
ืฉ: ืงื•ืœื’ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืงื•ืœื’ื”.
ืฉ: ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™?
ืช: ืœื, ืœื, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื•ื™ ื”ื’ื•ืŸ, ื•ืื‘ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉ ืžืžื ื• ืœื‘ื•ื. ืื‘ื ืืžืจ ืœืจื•ืคื ื”ื–ื”, ืฉื™ืฉ ื›ืืŸ ืชื•ืคืขื” ืฉืœ ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ื•ืฉืฉ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืžื•ืช ืœื• ืžืชื—ืช ืœื™ื“ื™ื™ื, ื•ื‘ื™ืงืฉ ืžืžื ื• ืœื‘ื•ื. ื”ืจื•ืคื ื”ื–ื” ืžื™ื“ ื‘ื, ื›ื™ ื’ื ื”ื•ื ื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืขืœ ืžื” ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืขื™ื“ ืžื” ื”ื™ื”, ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื”ืืžืคื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ื–ืจื™ืงื” ื•ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื–ืžื™ื ื• ืืžื‘ื•ืœื ืก, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื, ืœืงื—ื• ืืช ื”ืื™ืฉ, ื•ื”ืื™ืฉ ื”ื–ื” ืžืช. ืื– ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ื‘ืคืขื ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื” ืคื—ื“, ืฉืžื” ื™ืขืฉื• ืžื–ื” ื”ื ืืฆื™ื? ืงืฆืช ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื‘ื ืœื™ื•ื•ื” ืืช ื”ืืžื‘ื•ืœื ืก ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ืืœ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœื”ื ืžื” ืงืจื”. ื”ื ื›ื ืจืื” ืœื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ืœื”ืชืงื™ืฃ ืื•ืชื• ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื–ื” ืœื, ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ืจ ื‘ืฉืœื•ื. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ื–ื” ืขื•ื“ ื›ื ื’ื“ ืขื™ื ื™. ืื ื™ ืจืื™ืชื™ ืจืง ืฉื™ืฉ ืชื ื•ืขื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช. ื’ื ืื‘ื ื•ื’ื ืื™ืžื™, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื– ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžื‘ื•ื”ืœื™ื ืžื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื”ืจื•ืคื ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ ื”ื–ื” ื”ืชื ื”ื’ ื™ืคื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืื ื™ื”ื™ื” ืฆื•ืจืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขื“ ืœืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื”.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื• ื”ืงื•ืœื’ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืขื ืื‘ื?
ืช: ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื” ื•ื›ืืœื”. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ืฉืœื ื•, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ื›ื›ื”, ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื ื•, ืœื ื’ืจื ื• ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืขื•ื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืื—ื“. ื‘ืขืœ-ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื›ืจ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ื”ื™ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ืœื ื’ืจื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ืฉืชื™ ืืฃ ืคืขื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื”ืชืงื™ืคื• ืื•ืชื™ ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™. ื–ื” ืœื ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื ื”ื ื™ืชื™ ืžื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”. ื’ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉืจ ื—ื‘ืจืชื™, ืืžืจื ื• ืจืง ื‘ื•ืงืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื•ืขืจื‘ ื˜ื•ื‘, ื–ื” ื”ื›ืœ. ืื‘ืœ, ืœื™ื”ื ื•ืช ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ื”ื™ื”, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื–ืžืŸ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ืชื”ืœื•ื›ื•ืช, ื”ืฆืขืงื•ืช, ื”ืฉื™ืจื™ื, ื”ื“ื’ืœื™ื, ืฉื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืชืœื” ื“ื’ืœ ืขื•ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืจื•ืฉื โ€“ ื’ื ืื ื™ ื ืืฆื™! ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœื™ ืื™ืฉื™ืช, ืื ื™ ืขื•ื“ ืืกืคืจ ืžื” ืื ื™ ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื‘ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ืœืคื™ ื–ื” ืืช ืชืจืื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ืื‘ื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืงื™ืฅ 39' ื ืืกืจ ืขืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื, ืืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืชืจ ืœื”ื ืœื˜ืคืœ ืจืง ื‘ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื›ืžื” ืฉื ืฉืืจื•. ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื”.
ืฉ: ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ื’ื, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื ื’ืขื ื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’.
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืขื•ื“ ืœื ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื›ื™ ืื ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืœืฉืžื•ืจ ืขืœ ืจืฆืฃ ื›ืจื•ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™, ืœื ื ื’ืขื ื• ื‘ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’, ืื™ืš ื–ื” ืžืฉืคื™ืข?
ืช: ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœืžื” ืฉืืช ืฉืืœืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืขืœ ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’, ืื– ืจืง ื–ื” ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžืขืฉื™, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืœื ื ืคืฉื™. ื ืคืฉื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื•ื‘ ืื•ืชื• ื—ื‘ืœ ืฉืœ ื—ื ืง ืฉืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืœืฆื•ื•ืืจ, ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ื—ื•ืง ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื—ื ืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฆืžืฆืžื• ืืช ื”ืืคืฉืจื•ื™ื•ืช, ื’ื ืื ืœื ื›ื•ืœื ื—ืœื• ืขืœื™ื ื• ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื” ืฉืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืคืจื•ื ื˜ ืงืืžืคื”, ืžื” ืฉืงืจืื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืœื•ื—ื ื‘ื—ื–ื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื™ ืจืื™ืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื›ืจื™ื ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžื˜ื” ื”ืœื—ื ืฉืœื”ื ื ืฉื‘ืจ, ื•ื”ื ื ืฉืืจื• ืœืœื ืฉื•ื ืคืจื ืกื”.
ืฉ: ืœืžืฉืœ ื‘ืžื” ื”ื ืขืกืงื•?
ืช: ืœืžืฉืœ ื›ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ ืื•ืœื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ืฉืžื•ืช?
ืช: ื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื• ื—ื ื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื”, ื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืคืงื™ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืœื ืขื‘ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื ื™ ืจืื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ, ืฉื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืžื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื•ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื›ืจืชื™, ืฉื”ื ืœื ืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื‘ืฉื ืช 33' ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืžื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ. ืœื›ืŸ, ื ืคืชื— ื‘ืื•ืชื ื”ื–ืžื ื™ื ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืคื—ื•ืช ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™, ืžืขื•ืœื ื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื, ืฉื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™ื ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ื, ืฉืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื™ื—ืกื ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืชื‘ื•ืœืœ ืžืืฉืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ื›ืกื™ ืื• ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™, ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืขืงืจื•ื ื™ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืื‘ืœ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ื ื”ืงื™ืžื• ืื•ืชื•. ืื– ื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื, ืฉื”ื ืคื•ื˜ืจื• ืžื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ, ื”ื ืœื™ืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื”ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื‘ืื™ื–ื• ืฉื ื” ืคื•ืชื—ื™ื ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื”ื–ื”?
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืคืจื™ืœ 33'.
ืฉ: ืืช ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ืฉื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ?
ืช: ื”ื•ื ื ืงืจื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื”ืœื™ื‘ืจืœื™, ื›ืš ื ื“ืžื” ืœื™, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ื‘ื• ื”ื•ื ื’ื“ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ืงื˜ืŸ ื‘ื–ืžื ื™ื ื”ืืœื”. ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ื’ื ืœืกืคืจ ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื, ืฉืขืœ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืขื•ื“ ื”ืจื‘ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืงืฉืจ ืืœื™ื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื’ื ื”ื•ื ื’ื“ืœ ืื—ืจื™ 33', ื›ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื ืฉืœืžื“ื• ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืจืฆื•, ืืคื™ืœื• ืื ืื™ืŸ ืœื”ื ืขืชื™ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื‘ืœื™ ืฉื™ื’ืžืจื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืื™ื–ื• ืชืขื•ื“ื”, ืื– ื”ื ื‘ืื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื. ื›ื™ ืฉื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื’ื ืœืงืจืืช ืจื‘ื ื•ืช ื•ื’ื ืœืงืจืืช ื”ื•ืจืื” ืฉืœ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื. ืœื›ืŸ, ื‘ืื• ืœืฉื ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜ ื‘ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื, ื”ื ื‘ืื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ืกืžื™ื ืจ.
ืฉ: ื›ืฉื”ืชืœืžื™ื“ื™ื ืžื’ื™ืขื™ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืฉืœื›ื, ืื• ืคืชืื•ื ื”ื ื‘ืื™ื ืžื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ืœื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื™ืš ื”ื ืžืฉืชืœื‘ื™ื, ื”ื ืžืฉืชืœื‘ื™ื ืžื”ืจ?
ืช: ื”ื ืžืฉืชืœื‘ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ืฉืจื™ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื ืชื•ื ื™ื, ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ืืกืคืจ ืื™ืš ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื™ื. ื‘ื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ื”ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉื• ืืช ื”ื—ื ืง, ื•ื‘ื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื™ื. ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ืช ื”ืจื™ ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ืื•ืชื• ื”ื“ื‘ืจ, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ืฉื‘ื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื•ืกืคืช ื ื™ื›ืจืช ืฉืœ ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืชืื•ื ืขืจื‘ื•ื‘, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืžืชืืจืช ืœื™ ืฉื‘ื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืจืงืข ื“ืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื—ืฅ, ืืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืชืจื’ืœ ืœื”ืจื’ืœื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื—ืฅ, ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืืชื ื›ื•ืœื›ื ืชืขืฉื• ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืœืžื“ื• ืžื” ืฉืœื™ืžื“ื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ืื—ืจ ืฉืื– ืจืง ื ืคืชื—, ืื– ื’ื ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืคื—ื•ืช, ืืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฆื ื•ื. ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ื ื’ื™ื“ ืคื—ื•ืช ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ืคื—ื•ืช ืขืœ ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ืื•ืจื— ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ืฉืžื™ืจืช ืžืฆื•ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืŸ ืœืžื“ื• ืขืœ ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื”, ืœืžื“ื• ืงืฆืช ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื’ื ื—ื•ืžืฉ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœืžื“ื• ืื‘ืœ, ืคื—ื•ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืฆืœื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื, ื›ื™ ืื—ืจืช ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘, ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื›ืœื•ื. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืกืคืจ ืงืฆืช ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ืื•ืžื ื ืคืจื˜, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ืžืฉืงืฃ ืžืฉื”ื• ืขืœ ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”. ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื™ืฆื ื›ืš, ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘-33' ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ื—ืจื ื’ืžืจืชื™ ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืขื“ ืœืžืงื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื• ืฉืœื•ืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ืฉื ื” ื•ืœื ืฉืชื™ื™ื-ืขืฉืจื” ืฉื ื”, ื•ืื—ืจื™ ืขืฉืจ ืฉื ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœืฉืœื‘ ื‘ื™ื ื™ื™ื, ื›ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจืช, ื›ืžื• ืœื™ืฆืื•ื. ืื– ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื‘ื’ืจื•ืช ืœืžื“ื• ืขื•ื“ ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืฉื ื™ื. ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืชื›ื ื™ื ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื”ื ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืคื ื™ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืขื“ ืœื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื‘ื’ืจื•ืช, ื›ื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง ื›ืกืฃ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื–ื”. ืœื›ืŸ ืื—ืจื™ ืื•ื ื˜ืจ ื–ืงื•ื ื“ื”, ืœืงืจืืช ืื•ื‘ืจ ื–ืงื•ื ื“ื” ืขื‘ืจื• ืœื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื“ 33'. ื‘-33' ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื•ื’ื‘ืœื• ืื• ื”ื•ืฆืื• ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืžื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื. ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ, ืฉืื‘ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืคืจื•ื ื˜ ืงืžืคืจ, ืœื›ืŸ ื–ื” ืœื ื—ืœ ืขืœื™, ืื– ืื ื™ ืขื•ื“ ื ืจืฉืžืชื™ ืœื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื” ืœื‘ื ื•ืช, ื›ื™ ืฉื ืœืžื“ื• ื ืคืจื“ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืืฆืœ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื™ื ื‘ื ื™ื ื•ื‘ื ื•ืช. ืื– ื ืจืฉืžืชื™ ืœื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื” ืœื‘ื ื•ืช, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื•ื”ืชืงื‘ืœืชื™. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘ืื‘ื™ื‘ 33' ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ืœื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœื” ืœื–ื”. ื”ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ืกื“ืจ. ื”ื‘ืืชื™ ืืช ื”ืชืขื•ื“ื”, ื ื‘ื—ื ืชื™ ื•ื”ืชืงื‘ืœืชื™. ื‘ื›ื™ืชื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื” ืื—ืช, ืฉื”ื™ื ืœืžื“ื” ืฉื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื• ืฉืชื™ ื‘ื ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืช ืžื”ืŸ ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช. ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื˜ื‘ืขื™, ื‘ืื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื ื•ืช ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช. ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื”ืŸ ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ืขื•ื™ื ื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืื™ื‘ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืจืข ืžืื•ื“, ื›ื™ ื›ืœ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืขื ื”ื™ื™ืœ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ. ืงืžื•, ื”ืจื™ืžื• ื™ื“ ื•ืืžืจื•: ื”ื™ื™ืœ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ! ืœื ื”ื›ืจื™ื—ื• ืื•ืชื™, ื•ืœื ื”ืจืžืชื™, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื—ืจืช. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืฆืขื™ืจื”, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืงืคืฆืชื™ ืคืขื ื›ื™ืชื”, ืื– ื‘-33' ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืœื ืœื’ืžืจื™ ื‘ืช ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”. ืœื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืฉื ื˜ื•ื‘, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืฉืœื. ื”ืฉื™ื— ื•ื”ืฉื™ื’ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ื”ื™ื” ืฉื”ืŸ ื”ืœื›ื•, ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ื™ื•ื’ื ื“, ืืœื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” B.D.M โ€“ ื‘ื•ื ื“ื ื“ื•ื™ื˜ืฉ ืžื™ื˜ืฉื™ืŸ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื’ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ื•ื—ืœืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื‘ืชื ื•ืขื” ื”ื–ืืช. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื“ื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืคื˜ืจื™ื•ื˜ื™ื–ื. ืžื•ืจื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื, ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ื›ืžื” ืžื•ืจื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื”ื ื”ื•ืฆืื•. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืžืœืžืขืœื” ืืช ื”ื”ื•ืจืื•ืช ืฉื ืชืงื‘ืœื ื•. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื”ืชืงื‘ืœื• ืชืœืžื™ื“ื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืืœื ืจืง ืžื•ืขื˜ื™ื, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืจื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืฉื ื ืืฆื™ื–ื ื‘ื›ืžื•ืช ื ื™ื›ืจืช.
ืฉ: ื–ื• ืฉืืœื” ืฆื“ื“ื™ืช, ืขืฆื ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื‘-33' ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื›ืฉื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืขื•ืœื” ืœืฉืœื˜ื•ืŸ, ืืช ื ืจืฉืžืช, ื•ืืช ืœื•ืžื“ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื’ืจืžื ื™, ื”ืื ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื‘ืื•ืชื ืฉื ื™ื ืืชื ืœื...?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื—ื•ืœืงืช ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืฉืื ื™ ืžื“ื’ื™ืฉื”, ืฉืขืœื™ ืœื ื™ืจืงื•, ืœื ื”ื›ื• ืื•ืชื™, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ืฉืžืขืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืืฃ ืคืขื ืื—ืช ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื” ืžืœื•ื›ืœื›ืช.
ืฉ: ืžื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื’ื ืœื?
ืช: ื’ื ืœื ืžืŸ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื, ื•ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื™ื“ืข ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”.
ืฉ: ื•ืžื” ืืช ืขื•ืฉื” ื›ืฉืื•ืžืจื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืœ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ื•ื›ืœ ื–ื”?
ืช: ื”ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ืฉืจื” ืื™ืชื. ื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื ืืฆื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื ืขืฉื• ื ืืฆื™ื ื‘ื›ื•ื—.
ืฉ: ื›ืฉืืช ืื•ืžืจืช ืฉืฉืžื™ื ื“ื’ืฉ ืขืœ ืคื˜ืจื™ื•ื˜ื™ื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ื‘ืžื” ื–ื” ืžืชื‘ื˜ื? ื”ืื ืœืžืฉืœ ื”ืกืคืจื•ืช ืžืฉืชื ื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืชืจืื™, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืžื™ื“ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืžืฉื”ื•, ื›ืžื” ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืฉื ื˜ื•ื‘, ื‘ื–ื” ืฉืื—ืจื™ ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื ื” ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื”ื•ืจื™ื™: ื“ื™, ื•ื™ืฆืืชื™. ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื™ืฆืืชื™ ืžืฉื ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื›ืจื™ื—ื• ืื•ืชื™, ืœื ื”ื—ื•ืง ื•ื’ื ืœื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืืœื ืื ื™ ื”ื•ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื•ืฆืืช.
ืฉ: ืืช ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื”ืจื’ืฉืช ืจืข?
ืช: ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืฉื ื˜ื•ื‘, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืจื•ื— ื”ื–ืืช. ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืฉื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื ื”ื ื—ื’ื’ื• ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื‘ื›ื™ืชื”. ื ื’ื™ื“, ืžื•ืจื” ืื• ืžื•ืจื” ืœื”ืชืขืžืœื•ืช ืืžืจื•: ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื•ืช ืฆืจื™ื›ื•ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืกืคื•ืจื˜ื™ื‘ื™ื•ืช ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ื”ื“ื’ืฉื™ื ื›ืืœื• ืฉื”ืคืจื™ืขื• ืœื™, ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื–ื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื. ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืœื ืกื™ืœืงื• ืื•ืชื™, ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืชื™ืื•ืจื˜ื™ืช ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื” ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืื•ืœื™ ื ื™ืกื” ืœืฉื›ื ืข ืื•ืชืš, ืื• ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื™ื—ืก ืื—ืจ?
ืช: ืœื, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื–ื”ื™ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ืœืฉื›ื ืข. ื™ื—ืก ืื™ืฉื™ ืœื ื™ืฆืจืชื™ ืขื ืืฃ ืžื•ืจื” ืื—ื“.
ืฉ: ื•ื’ื ืขื ืืฃ ืชืœืžื™ื“?
ืช: ืขื ืชืœืžื™ื“ื” ืื—ืช ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื”ืฆื˜ืจืคื” ืืœื™ ื›ืฉื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”, ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื‘ืจื’ืœ, ื’ื ื”ื™ื ื”ืœื›ื” ื•ืฉื•ื—ื—ื ื•. ืœื ืฉื•ื—ื—ื ื• ืขืœ ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืงื” ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื™ืฉื™ืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื ืชื ื” ืœื™ ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ, ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืขืจื™ื›ื” ืื•ืชื™. ืงืจื” ืืคื™ืœื• ื›ืš, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ื“ ื—ื–ืง ื‘ืชื•ืš ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉืœื•ื, ืื– ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื” ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืฉืœื•ื. ื”ื™ื ืฆื—ืงื”, ื•ื”ื™ื ืืžืจื” ืœื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืฉืœื•ื. ืืช ืžื‘ื™ื ื”, ืื ื™ ืืžืจืชื™ ืฉืœื•ื ืžืชื•ืš ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœื” ืœื ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœื”ืชืจืื•ืช (ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช), ืืœื, ืืžืจืชื™ ืฉืœื•ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื ืชืœืžื™ื“ื” ืื—ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืขื–ื‘ืชื™, ื•ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื”ืกื›ื™ืžื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ, ืžื” ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืขื›ืฉื™ื•? ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืืžืจืชื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืœื”ืชื›ื•ื ืŸ ืžืขืฉื™ืช, ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืื ืื ื™ ืืฆื ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื›ืœ ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืคืขื ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก.
ืฉ: ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืชืžืฉื™ื›ื™ ื”ืœืื”, ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืฉืื•ืœ, ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™, ื”ืื ืืช ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืฉื™ื ื• ื’ื ืืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื™ื ื• ื’ื ืืช ื”ื“ื’ืฉ ื”ืกืคืจื•ืชื™?
ืช: ื›ืŸ. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืžื•ืจื” ืœืกืคืจื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื•ื’ื ืœื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ืœืกืคืจื•ืช. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžื•ืจื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“, ื•ืื ื™ ืžืฉืขืจืช ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื™ ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื” ืื™ื–ื” ื“ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”, ื”ื™ื• ืžืกืœืงื™ื ืื•ืชื”. ืื ื™ ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ื‘ืžืงืจื” ืื™ื–ื• ืžื•ืจื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”, ืฉื’ื ื”ื™ื ื™ืฆืื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืื—ืจ, ืœื ืžื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื”ื›ื™ืจื” ืื•ืชื”, ื”ืŸ ื”ื™ื• ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช. ื”ื™ื ืฉืืœื” ืื•ืชื™: ืืช ืœื•ืžื“ืช ืืฆืœื”, ื”ื™ื ื‘ืืžืช ื‘ืกื“ืจ ื‘ืขืจืš. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืœื ื ืชื ื” ืœื–ื” ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™, ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื™ืžื“ื” ื‘ืฆื•ืจื”, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืื•ื‘ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ืช ืืช ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื™ืžื“ื”. ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ื›ืžื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืฉื•ื‘ืฉื™ื ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืžืชืžื˜ื™ืงื” ื•ื™ื“ืขืชื™, ืื– ื‘ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืคืขื ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืขืžื“ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ืจื” ืœืžืชืžื˜ื™ืงื”. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื™ื–ื” ื’ืจืžื ื™ ืฆืขื™ืจ ื™ื—ืกื™ืช, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืชืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื ื‘ื—ื•ืžืจ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœืžื“ื ื• ื‘ื˜ืจื™ื’ื•ื ื•ืžื˜ืจื™ื”. ื”ื™ื• ืžืคืงื—ื™ื ืฉืคื™ืงื—ื• ืขืœื™ื• ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ืžืœืžื“. ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืคืฉืจื™ ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืกืชื‘ืš, ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ืžืžืฉ ืœื ื ื›ื•ืŸ. ืื– ืื ื™ ื”ืฆื‘ืขืชื™ ื•ืืžืจืชื™: ื›ืืŸ ื™ืฉ ื˜ืขื•ืช, ื–ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืื—ืจืช, ื•ืื ื™ ืฆื“ืงืชื™ ื‘ื–ื”. ืื– ื”ื•ื ืขื ื” ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ื›ื–ืืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ื™ืฉ ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื” ืฉืœืคืขืžื™ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืจื•ืื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื ื›ื•ืŸ. ื–ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื›ื›ื” ื’ื ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืงื” ืฉืœื ื•, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื›ื ื™ืก ื ืืฆื™ื•ื ืœ ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ื–ื ื‘ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ืžืชืžื˜ื™ืงื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืกืคื™ืง ื—ื›ืžื”, ื•ืœื ื”ืชื•ื•ื›ื—ืชื™ ืื™ืชื•, ืืœื ืฉืชืงืชื™. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืื™ื“ื™ื•ื˜ื™, ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœืฆืืช ื‘ื–ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ืื ื™ ื ืืฆื™ ื˜ื•ื‘! ืื– ืืžืจืชื™, ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื›ื–ื”? ืœื ื‘ื ื‘ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ื–ื” ืœืคื ื™, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื™ืคืฉ ื’ืžื•ืจ, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืœื•ืงื—ืช ืื•ืชื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ืจื” ื’ื ืื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ, ืื•ืชื ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืงื˜ื ื™ื. ืื ื”ื•ื ื ืขืฉื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืžื•ืจื” ืื• ืœื, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ื•ื–ื” ื’ื ืœื ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื™.
ืฉ: ื”ืชืœืžื™ื“ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ื’ื ืขื–ื‘ื• ื›ืฉืืช ืขื–ื‘ืช? ืืžืจืช ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžืกืคืจ ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื.
ืช: ืื ื™ ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื” ืฉืžื™ ืฉื™ื“ืข ืžืชืžื˜ื™ืงื” ื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื–ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืขื–ื‘ื• ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ, ืื• ืฉื”ื ื›ืŸ ื ืฉืืจื•.
ืช: ืœื, ืœื, ื›ืœื•ื, ื”ื ืฉืชืงื•, ื”ื ืฉืชืงื•.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื ืฉืืจื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ืื• ืฉื”ื ื’ื ืขื–ื‘ื• ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืฉื ื” ืฉืืช ืขื–ื‘ืช?
ืช: ืื•ืชื” ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื” ื”ืื—ืช ืฉืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช, ื–ื” ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื”, ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ืœืื‘ื ืฉืœื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืžืจืงื—ืช, ื”ื•ื ืกื’ืจ ืื•ืชื•, ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ืืจืฆื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืขืœ ื”ื›ืจืžืœ, ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืืช ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘, ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ื“ืงืชื™ ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉืœืš ื“ื•ื•ืงื, ืื ื™ ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœื˜ื•ืค ืฉื‘ื˜ื•ืค ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืฉืคื” ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข, ืื™ืŸ ืกืคืง, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“. ืื’ื‘, ืฉืžืจื™ื”ื• ืฉืืช ืžื›ื™ืจื”, ื”ื•ื ืฆืขื™ืจ ืžืžื ื™, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื›ื™ืชื” ืฉืœ ืื•ื‘ืจ ื–ืงื•ื ื“ื”, ื›ืืฉืจ ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื•ืกื™ืคื• ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืืช ืฉืœื•ืฉ ื”ื›ื™ืชื•ืช, ื›ืš ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื’ืžื•ืจ ืืช ื”ื‘ื’ืจื•ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™.
ืฉ: ื•ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืฉื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืื™ื–ื” ืคืจืก?
ืช: ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืคืจืก, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื“ื•ืข ื›ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“. ืชืจืื™, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื›ื™ืชื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื•ืช, ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืจื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื ื•ืกืคื• ืขื•ื“ ืžื•ืจื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืžื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื›ืœืœื™ื ืฉื”ื ืœื™ืžื“ื• ื‘ื”ื.
ืฉ: ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ, ื•ื’ื ืžืกืคืจื™ื ืขืœ ืื™ื–ื• ืคืจื™ื—ื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื‘ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืกืคืจ ืœื ื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืขืœ ื›ืš? ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืคืจื™ื—ื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช ื‘ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ.
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื•ืคืชืื•ื ื”ื ื”ื•ืฆืื•, ืื– ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื—ืกืจ ืœื”ื. ื”ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช, ืฉืœื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืื•ืชื ื•, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืžื” ื–ื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืช, ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ื ืขืฉื” ืื•ืชื” ืœื‘ื“ื ื•. ืื– ื”ืงื™ืžื• ืืช ื”ืงื•ืœื˜ื•ืจ ืคื‘ื ื˜-ืคืจ-ืชืจื‘ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ืืช ืžืชืจื’ืžืช ืืช ื–ื”?
ืช: ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื’ื•ื“ื” ืœืชืจื‘ื•ืช. ื‘ืชื•ืš ื–ื” ื˜ื™ืคื—ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”, ืื‘ืœ ื’ื ื”ืจืฆืื•ืช ื•ื›ื•'. ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื”, ืฉื‘ืื•ืชืŸ ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื™ื‘ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช ืœื”ื“ื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช. ืœื ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื›ืžื• ืฉืื•ืžืจื™ื ื›ืืŸ, ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ื‘ืชืฉื•ื‘ื”, ืืœื ื”ืชืขื ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืชื•ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ื”ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ืฉืื ืจื•ื“ืคื™ื ืื•ืชื ื• ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื ื“ืข ืœื”ื’ื™ื‘ ืขืœ ื–ื” ื‘ื’ืื•ื•ื” ืคื ื™ืžื™ืช, ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืขืจื›ื™ื ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื“ืขืช ืื•ืชื ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ืœื˜ืคื— ืื•ืชื.
ืฉ: ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืžื• ื“ื’ืฉ, ืขืœ ืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช, ืขืœ ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช?
ืช: ื’ื ืขืœ ืœื™ืžื•ื“, ืขืฉื• ืื– ื ื’ื™ื“ ืกืžื™ื ืจื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืœื ืžื“ื‘ืจืช ืขืœ ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ืื‘ืœ ืขืฉื• ืกืžื™ื ืจื™ื. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ืื ืฉื™ื ืœืžื“ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ืฉื ื™ืช, ื”ื™ื• ืกืžื™ื ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ืžื™ ื—ื•ืคืฉ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื›ืžื” ื™ืžื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ื•ืœืžื“ื•. ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืกืžื™ื ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืขืžื“ ืžืจื˜ื™ืŸ ื‘ื•ื‘ืจ, ื”ื•ื–ืžื ื• ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉืืคืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืืจื ืกื˜ ืกื™ืžื•ืŸ, ืฉื‘ืขืฆื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืืจืฅ, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘-29' ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ืœื‘ื•ื ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœืžื“. ืื ื™ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืืฆืœื• ืคืขื ื‘ืกืžื™ื ืจ ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืžื™ ื—ื ื•ื›ื”, ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉื ืงืจื ื‘ืชื–ืœืฆื‘ื•ืŸ, ืฉื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ื™ืคื”, ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืžืจืคื, ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉื›ื•ืจ ืฉื ื—ื“ืจื™ื, ื•ื‘ืื• ืœืฉื ืžืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืจื‘ื™ื, ื›ื™ ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืงื˜ื ื˜ื•ื ืช. ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืฉื ื“ื•ื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื”ื”ื•ื, ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ื‘ืœื•ืžื ื˜ืœ. ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื‘ื™ื—ื“, ื•ืœืžื“ื ื• ืžืŸ ื”ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืขื“ ื”ืขืจื‘ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืœืžืฉืœ?
ืช: ืœืžื“ื ื•, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืชื•ืจื”. ืืจื ืกื˜ ืกื™ืžื•ืŸ ื ืชืŸ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ื‘ืฉื™ืจื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื”ืœื•ื™, ืฉืขื“ ื”ื™ื•ื ืื ื™ ืขื•ื“ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ื–ื”. ืžืจื˜ื™ืŸ ื‘ื•ื‘ืจ ืœื™ืžื“ ืชื "ืš. ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ืœื™ืžื“ ืื—ื“ ืฉืงืจืื• ืœื• ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ื›ื”ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืฉื ื™ ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ื›ื”ืŸ, ืฉืฉื ื™ื”ื ืœื™ืžื“ื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื’ืจืžื ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืืจืฆื” ื•ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืžื•ืจื” ื‘ืื•ืจื ื™ื. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืฆื ืžืŸ ื”ื›ืœืœ ื˜ื•ื‘. ื”ืฉื ื™ ื ืฉืืจ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ื•ื•ื™ืœื™ ื›ื”ืŸ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื ืกืคื” ืฉื. ื”ื•ื ื›ืชื‘ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื™ื•ืžืŸ, ืฉืงืจืืชื™ ืื•ืชื•. ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ื•ืข, ื”ื•ื ื ืžืฆื ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™. ื”ื•ื ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื•ืŸ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืจืื” ืืช ื–ื” ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ืช ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”, ืื™ืš ื–ื” ื”ืœืš, ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื—ื ืง ืขื“ ืœืžื•ื•ืช, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื• ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื“ 42', ืขื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื•ื‘ื ื’ื ืœืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ. ืื‘ืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ืืœื” ื‘ืื• ืœืœืžื“ ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“. ื‘ืื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ ื•ืœื ื–ืงื ื™ื, ืฉืื•ืžืจื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื–ืงื ื™ื ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื, ื•ื‘ืื• ืœืฉื ื’ื ื ื•ืขืจ. ืื ื™, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื, ื•ื–ื” ื ืชืŸ ื’ื ืื™ื–ื• ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืขื™ื“ื•ื“ ื ืคืฉื™ ืฉืœ ืจืžื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช. ื–ื” ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ืชืงื™ื™ื, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ื”ื˜ืงืกื˜ ืขืฆืžื•, ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื›ื™ ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ื›ื–ืืช ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื“ ืื• ืœืœืžื•ื“. ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื˜ืงืกื˜ื™ื ืงืจืื• ื’ื ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ืื ื”ื™ื” ืฆื•ืจืš. ืื‘ืœ, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืœื’ื‘ื™ ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” โ€“ ืžื” ืขืฉื•? ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ืชื–ืžื•ืจืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื•ืจื›ื‘ืช ืจืง ืžื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื—ืœืงื ืžื•ืกื™ืงืื™ื ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ื™ื, ื•ืžืงืฆืชื ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืกื™ืงืื™ื ื—ื•ื‘ื‘ื ื™ื, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื•ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™ื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ ืžืœื‘ื“ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ื ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ. ื”ื™ื” ืฉื, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื‘ืชื–ืžื•ืจืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื™ื” ืžื ืฆื— ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ ื•ื”ื™ื• ืžืกืคื™ืง ื›ื™ื ื•ืจื•ืช ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ืžืกืคื™ืง ืฆ'ืœื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื—ืกืจ, ื”ื™ื” ื—ืกืจ ืงืจืŸ. ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื‘ืŸ-ื“ื•ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืืœื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉืชืœื ืื– ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื›ื™ืจื•ืจื’. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™ ืžืื•ื“, ื”ื•ื ื ื™ื’ืŸ ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“ ืขืœ ื—ืœื™ืœ ื•ื’ื ืขืœ ืคืกื ืชืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ืขืœ ืงืจืŸ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืœืžื“. ืื– ื”ืžื ืฆื— ืืžืจ ืœื•: ืชืฉืžืข, ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ืœื, ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื ื’ืŸ ืงืจืŸ. ืื– ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืžื”ืจ ืœื ื’ืŸ ืขืœ ืงืจืŸ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืžื™ืœื ื‘ืชื–ืžื•ืจืช ืืช ื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉืœ ื”ืงืจืŸ. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ืื– ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื•: ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข ืœื ื’ืŸ ืขืœ ืงืจืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืื•ืชื ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžื ื’ื ื™ื. ื–ื” ืœื ืงืฉื” ืืฆืœ ื”ื™ื™ื“ืŸ, ืืคื™ืœื• ืืฆืœ ืžื•ืฆืืจื˜ ื–ื” ืœื ืงืฉื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืžืžืœื ืืช ื”ืžืงื•ื. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื–ื•ื›ืจืช, ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ืขืฆืžื™ ื”ืฉืชืชืคืชื™ ื‘ืžืงื”ืœื” ืฉืœ ืื•ืชื” ื”ืชื–ืžื•ืจืช ืฉื”ืฆื’ื ื• ืืช 'ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืžืฆืจื™ื' ืฉืœ ื”ื ื“ืœ. ืื– ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื ื•ืขืจ, ืœืžื“ื ื• ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“, ืื”ื‘ื ื• ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื–ื”. ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืžืฉืžื—ื™ื, ื’ื ืื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืžื” ืฉืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ื–ื” ื ื•ืจื, ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฆืจื• ืื™ื–ื” ืื™.
ืฉ: ืžืฆืืชื ืืช ื”ื‘ื•ืขื” ืฉืœื›ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื‘ื•ืขื” ืฉืœื ื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื™ื›ืœื• ื ืคืฉื™ืช ืœืฉืืช ืืช ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืจื•ื‘ ื™ืžื™ ื—ื™ื™ื”ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื• ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ืคืชืื•ื ื™ื•ืจืงื™ื ืื•ืชื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืขืœื‘ื•ืŸ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ื”ืขืœื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืžืœื‘ื“ ื”ืกื‘ืœ ื”ื›ืœื›ืœื™, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ.
ืฉ: ื‘ืื•ืชืŸ ืฉื ื™ื ื™ืฉ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืงืจื™ืงื˜ื•ืจื•ืช, ืื ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื“ืจ-ืฉื˜ื™ืจืžืจ ื•ืื—ืจื™ื, ื”ืื ืืชื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื–ื”? ื–ืืช ืื•ืžืจืช, ืืชื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉืจื•ืื™ื ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืคืจื•ืคื’ื ื“ื” ื ื•ืจืื™ืช, ื”ืื ืืชื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื–ื”? ืื™ืš ืื“ื...?
ืช: ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื–ื” ืฉื–ื” ื ื•ืจื, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืžื” ืคืขืžื™ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื–ื” ื ื•ืจื? ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื‘ื›ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืžืžืฉื™ื›ื™ื. ืžื™ ืฉืขื•ื“ ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืื– ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก, ื•ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ืคื ื•ื™ ื”ื•ื ืžื ืกื” ืœืชืช ืœื–ื” ืชื•ื›ืŸ, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ืžืขืžื“ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื ืคืฉื™ืช. ื’ื ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ื•ื”ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื“ื‘ืงื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื™ื—ื“.
ืฉ: ืื—ื“ ื‘ืฉื ื™, ื”ืื ื™ืฉ ืขื–ืจื” ื”ื“ื“ื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™.
ืฉ: ื’ื ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื’ื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”.
ืฉ: ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืกืคืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื–ืจื”, ื›ืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช...
ืฆื“ ืจื‘ื™ืขื™:
ืืช ืฉืืœืช ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื–ืจื” ื”ื”ื“ื“ื™ืช. ื›ืืŸ ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืœื›ืช ืื—ื•ืจื ื™ืช, ืฉื”ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ืŸ ื—ื•ืœืฉื•ืช, ืื™ืŸ ืžื” ืœื“ื‘ืจ. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื—ื–ืงื™ื, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืช ื‘ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช. ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื™-ื™ืชื•ืžื™ื ื•ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื™-ื–ืงื ื™ื. ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื ื”ื“ืจ. ื“ืื’ื• ืœืขื ื™ื™ื ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ, ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื•ื—ืœืง ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ืฆื“ืงื” ื•ื’ืžื™ืœื•ืช ื—ืกื“ื™ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™. ื™ื“ืขื• ืžื™ ืื ื™. ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืฉืกื‘ื™ ื“ืื’ ืœื–ื”, ืฉืœื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ืžืฉืš ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ ืžืกืคื™ืง ืคื—ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื ื™ื•ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืกื™ืง. ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืœื”ื ืื•ื›ืœ ื‘ื›ืžื•ื™ื•ืช ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื ืขืฉื™ื ืžื•ื“ื’ืฉื™ื ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ืš ืฆื•ืจืš. ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืžื™ื“ ื‘-33' ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื ื•ืขื” ืฉืœ ืขื–ื™ื‘ื”, ืฉืจืง ืžืขื˜ื™ื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืงื™ื™ื ืืช ื–ื”, ื›ื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื‘ืœ ืจืฉื•ืช. ื‘ืขืฆื, ืื– ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื’ื‘ืœื” ืขืœ ื™ืฆื™ืื” ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืžื™ ืฉืจืฆื” ืื– ืœืฆืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœืฆืืช, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื›ื ื™ืกื” ืœืืจืฆื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื‘ืขื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื’ื ื›ืกืฃ, ื•ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœ. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืขื ื›ืœ ืจืžืช ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื, ื”ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉืคื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช. ื™ื“ืขื• ืœืงืจื•ื ื‘ืฆืจืคืชื™ืช, ืื• ืืคื™ืœื• ืœืžื“ื• ืœื˜ื™ื ื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ืœื ืขื–ืจ ืœื”ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ, ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื. ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ืฉื—ืงืœืื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื•, ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื• ื›ืžื” ื‘ืขืœื™ ื—ื•ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื. ืคื•ืขืœื™ื ืฉื—ื•ืจื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืขื˜ ืžืื•ื“. ื‘ืขืœื™-ืžืงืฆื•ืข ืฉืœ ื‘ืขืœื™-ืžืœืื›ื” ื”ื™ื• ืžืขื˜ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื ื’ื“ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืขืกืงื™ื, ื•ื”ืขืกืงื™ื ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืžื”ื, ืื• ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื”ื•ื’ื‘ืœื•. ืื ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืจืฉืžื™ื™ื ืžื˜ืขื ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื”, ืื– ื”ื ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืœื’ืžืจื™. ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืืงื“ืžืื™ื, ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืื• ื”ืงืœื™ื™ื ื˜ื•ืจื” ืฉืœื”ื, ืื• ืฉื”ื ืขื‘ื“ื• ื›ืืงื“ืžืื™ื ื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื”. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืกื™ื›ื•ื™. ืื– ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขืœื™ ื”ื•ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ื—ืœืง ืžื‘ืขืœื™ ื”ื”ื•ืŸ ืืคื™ืœื• ื–ื” ืœื ืขื–ืจ ืœื”ื, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืฉืงืข ื‘ื‘ืชื™ื ื•ื‘ืจื›ื•ืฉ ื“ืœื ื ื™ื™ื“ื™, ื”ื ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืงื—ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืชืจืžื™ืœ. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ื”ื’ื‘ืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืฆืืช ื›ืกืฃ ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืืคื™ืœื• ื›ืกืฃ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžื–ื•ืžืŸ. ืœื›ืŸ, ืฆื ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช ืžื™ื“ ืื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืื•ื™ืžื™ื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช, ืฉื”ื™ื• ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื, ืื• ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื ืคืขื™ืœื™ื, ืื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืขื ื™ื™ื ื‘ืœืื• ื”ื›ื™, ืื• ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื, ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื‘ื˜ื™ื— ืœืžื“ื™ื ืชื ืฉื”ื ืœื ื™ืคืœื• ืขืœ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื”ื–ืืช ืœืžืขืžืกื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื’ืœ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉืื™ืคื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืœืฆืืช. ืื– ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืฉื ืคืœื˜ื• ืžื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ, ื•ื”ืจื•ื‘ ื ืคืœื˜ื• ืžื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ, ื”ืœื›ื• ืœืื™ื–ื• ื”ื›ืฉืจื” ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ืช. ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™ ื”ืœื›ื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื ื’ืจื•ืช, ืื• ื”ืœื›ื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”. ืื• ืื ื”ืชื›ื•ื ื ื• ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ืืช ื”ื”ื›ืฉืจื•ืช. ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื›ืœืœ ืขื–ืจ, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืฉื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื›ืจื• ื—ื•ื•ื”, ืžืฉืง ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื™ื•ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืฉื ื•ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ืขื™ืŸ ืงื•ืžื•ื ื” ืงื™ื‘ื•ืฅ ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื–ืขื™ืจ ืื ืคื™ืŸ. ืจืฆื• ืœืขืœื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืžืฆื‘. ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื›ืืฉืจ ืขื–ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืชื›ื•ื ืŸ ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ื‘ืฉื ืช 34' ืื—ื™ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื›ื‘ืจ ืœืžื“ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืขื–ื‘ ืืช ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืชืจ ืœื• ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“. ืื’ื‘, ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืื‘ื ื”ืฆื™ืข ืœื• ืื• ืฉื”ื•ื ืจืฆื”, ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื. ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื ื” ืื—ืช ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ืœื, ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืจื•ืคื, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืœื›ืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืื– ืื‘ื ืืžืจ ืœื•: ืชืœืžื“ ื—ืงืœืื•ืช, ืชืœืžื“ ืื’ืจื•ื ื•ื. ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืฉื ื” ืื’ืจื•ื ื•ื, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ื’ื ืืช ื–ื” ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš, ืื ื™ ืืœืš ืœื”ื›ืฉืจื”. ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ืœื”ื›ืฉืจื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื“ืขืช ืžืฉื”ื• ืžืžืฉ, ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ืœืื™ื˜ืœื™ื” ืœืกื™ืฆื™ืœื™ื” ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื’ื™ื“ื•ืœ ืคืจื“ืกื ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืžืขืฉื™. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ื–ืžืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืกื™ื‘ื” ืื—ืจืช. ืื—ื™ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื”ืกืคื™ืง ืขื•ื“ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื‘ื’ืจื•ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ื’ื ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืขื•ื“ ืขื‘ืจื• ืœื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื›ืœืœื™, ื•ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื’ืžื•ืจ ืืช ื‘ื—ื™ื ื•ืช ื”ื‘ื’ืจื•ืช. ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืืช ื”ื‘ื’ืจื•ืช, ื•ืื– ืืคืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ ื›ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜, ืื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉืœื ืกื›ื•ื ืžืกื•ื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื”ืคืงื™ื“. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืกื›ื•ื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ื•ืืช ื–ื” ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ืื– ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืื—ื™ ื”ืฉื ื™ ืขืœื” ืืจืฆื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืกืชื™ื• 34'. ืื ื™ ืืžืจืชื™, ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืืœืžื“ ื›ืืŸ, ืื ื™ ืืœืš ืœื”ื›ืฉืจื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืœืื™ืคื” ืœืœื›ืช? ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ื›ืฉืจื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช ืžืื•ืจื’ื ื•ืช ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ืขื•ื“ ื“ื™ ืฆืขื™ืจื”, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ืช ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”. ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ืืžืจื• ืœื™: ืื•ืœื™ ืชืœืžื“ื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื‘ืงืจื‘ืช ืžืงื•ื, ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืชื•ื›ืœื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ืœืฉื‘ืชื•ืช ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื” ื•ื›ื•'. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื’ื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ืœื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืคืกื™ืง ืืช ื–ื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื•ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ืื– ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ื’ื ืื ื ืขื“ืจืชื™. ืžื” ืขืฉื” ืื‘ื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืžืงื•ื ืฉืื ื™ ืื”ื™ื” ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื”, ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ืืœืžื“ ืžืฉื”ื•? ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš, ื–ื” ืจืง ืžืจืื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืขืœ ื”ืžืกื›ืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช. ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ืืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉืื™ืชื• ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ืขื™ืจ ื”ืงื˜ื ื” ืฉืžืžื ื” ื”ื•ื ื‘ื, ืžื”ืขื™ืจ ืจื˜ื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืื™ืชื• ื‘ื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื”. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืงืชื•ืœื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืžื•ื›ืฉืจ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ืจืฅ ื‘ื™ืฉื•ืฃ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื›ืœื•ืžืจ?
ืช: ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื›ื•ืžืจ ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืงืฉืจ ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš ืฉื ื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ื‘ื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื”, ื•ืื‘ื™ ื–ื›ืจ ืื•ืชื• ื›ืื™ืฉ ืžืื•ื“ ื”ื’ื•ืŸ. ืฉืžื• ื”ื™ื” ืคื™ื•ื ื˜ืง, ืื– ืื‘ื™ ื”ืœืš ืืœื™ื• ื•ืืžืจ ืœื•: ืคื™ื•ื ื˜ืง, ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื‘ืช ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ืช ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ื”ื™ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืœื• ื”ื™ื” ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ื•ืื‘ื ืืžืจ ืœื•: ืืชื” ื”ืจื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืฉื›ืืŸ ืื™ืŸ ืฉื•ื ืขืชื™ื“ ืœื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื•ื”ื™ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืœื›ืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ื”ื™ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื—ืงืœืื•ืช, ื”ืื ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืฆื™ืข ืžืฉื”ื•. ื”ืจื™ ื”ื™ื• ืžื ื–ืจื™ื ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื ื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืฉืœ ื ืฉื™ื, ืฉืœ ื ื–ื™ืจื•ืช ืขื ื—ื•ื•ืช, ืฉื”ื”ืชืขืกืงื•ืช ืฉืœื”ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื—ืงืœืื™ืช.
ืฉ: ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืžื ื–ืจ?
ืช: ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืžื ื–ืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืื“ืžื•ืช, ื•ืขื‘ื“ื• ื‘ืฉื“ื” ืื• ื‘ืžื˜ืขื™ื ืื• ื‘ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื ืจื—ื•ืง ืžืื•ื“ ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ืกื™ืขื” ืฉืœ ืฉืขื” ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื” ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืžื•ื ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืขืœ ื”ืžื ื–ืจื™ื ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœืื‘ื: ื™ืฉ ืžื ื–ืจ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืงืฆืช ื‘ื”ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ืจื™ื–ื ื’ื™ื‘ืจื’, ืื ื™ ืืคื ื” ืืœื™ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื ืชืฉืžืข ืœื™ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ื“ื•ืจืฉ ืžืžื ื”. ื”ื•ื ืคื ื” ืืœื™ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื ืืžืจื”: ืื ื™, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืžืงื‘ืœืช ื”ื•ืจืื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืžื•ื›ื ื” ืœืงื‘ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื™ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื”. ืื ื”ืžื ื–ืจ ืืžืจื”: ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืื—ื•ืช ืืœืžื ื”, ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื” ื—ื•ื•ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœื ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื’ื ื‘ืฉืœื–ื™ื”. ื”ื™ื ื‘ื›ืคืจ ื•ื™ืฉ ืœื” ื—ื•ื•ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื•ืื ืื ื™ ืื‘ืงืฉ ืžืžื ื”, ื”ื™ื ืชืขืฉื” ืืช ื–ื”. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืคื ื™ืชื™ ืืœื™ื”, ืื™ืžื™ ื ืกืขื” ืื™ืชื™. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื™ืฉื” ืžืื•ื“ ื ื—ืžื“ื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื” ื—ืงืœืื•ืช ืžืขื•ืจื‘ืช, ื”ื™ื• ืœื” ืฉื“ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื˜ื”, ืฉืœ ืฉืขื•ืจื”, ืฉืœ ืชืคื•ื—ื™-ืื“ืžื”, ืกืœืง ื•ื›ื•'. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื” ื’ื ืจืคืช, ืื•ืžื ื, ืœื ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืื•ืœื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืคืจื•ืช ื•ืฉื ื™ ืขื’ืœื™ื. ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ื’ื ืœื•ืœ ื•ืกื•ืกื™ื, ื”ื™ื• ืœื” ื›ืžื” ืคื•ืขืœื™ื ื•ื›ืžื” ืคื•ืขืœื•ืช, ื•ื”ื™ื ืืžืจื”, ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื”, ืฉืื ื™ ืื‘ื•ื ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืืฆืœื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืขื™ื”, ื›ื™ ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ ืื ื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœืฉื ืจืง ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืื—ืจื™-ื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื, ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœืฉื ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช. ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ืื•ืคื ื™ื™ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ืœื ื’ืจื” ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ืชื—ื ืช ืจื›ื‘ืช, ืื– ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืจื›ื‘ ืขืœ ืื•ืคื ื™ื™ื ืขื“ ืœื›ืคืจ. ืฉื ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ื—ื“ืจ, ื•ืื ื™ ืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ืฉื ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื”ืคื•ืขืœื™ื ื‘ื ื™ ื”ืื™ื›ืจื™ื ื•ืขื ื”ื ืฉื™ื ืฉืขื‘ื“ื• ืฉื. ืื ื™ ืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ืฉื ืžื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืขื“ ื™ื•ื ืฉื™ืฉื™ ื‘ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื. ื‘ื™ื•ื ืฉื™ืฉื™ ื‘ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืื•ืคื ื™ื™ื, ืจื›ื‘ืชื™ ืขืœื™ื”ื ืขื“ ืœืจื›ื‘ืช, ื”ืฉืืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื ืฉื, ื•ื ืกืขืชื™ ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”.
ืฉ: ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ื›ื•ืœื ืฉืืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืงืฉืจ ืœื›ืคืจ, ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื›ืคืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืงืฆื” ื”ื›ืคืจ. ืฉื ืขื‘ื“ืชื™. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืชืืจื™ ืœืš, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื” ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื” ื‘ืจื“ื™ื•ืก ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“, ื›ื™ ืฉื ืœื ื’ืจื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืœื ื‘ื›ืคืจ ื•ืœื ื‘ืขื™ื™ืจื” ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื—ื ืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช. ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื•, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื• ืขืœ ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื›ืœืช ื›ืฉืจ, ืื›ืœืชื™ ืฉื ืื•ื›ืœ ืื—ืจ, ืื›ืœืชื™ ืœื—ื ื•ื’ื‘ื™ื ื”, ืื• ืฉื‘ื™ืฉืœืชื™ ืฉื ืžืฉื”ื•, ืื•ืจื– ืื• ืชืคื•ื—ื™-ืื“ืžื”, ืฉื‘ื™ืฉืœืชื™ ืœืขืฆืžื™ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ืื›ืœืชื™ ื’ื ืœื—ื, ื‘ื™ืฆื” ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ืœื‘. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ืš ื•ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ืš ืฆืžื—ื•ื ื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืื›ืœืชื™ ืฉื ืœื—ื•ื“, ืื›ืœืชื™ ื‘ื—ื“ืจ ืฉืœื™, ืœื ืื›ืœืชื™ ืื™ืชื. ืื›ืœืชื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคื™ืจื•ืช, ื•ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื ื—ืžื“ื™ื ื•ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืื– ืืช ื”ืจื’ืฉืช ืฉื–ื• ื”ื”ื›ื ื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ?
ืช: ืื ื™ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืฉื ืจืง ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื–ื”. ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืฉื ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ืžื”ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืขื“ ื”ืขืจื‘, ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืงืฉื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื•ืจื” ืฉื ืœื˜ื‘ืข, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืจื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ืœื™ืขืจ, ื•ืื ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื–ืžืŸ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืฉื, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื–ืžืŸ, ื›ื™ ื‘ื™ื•ื ืฉื™ืฉื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”, ื•ืื– ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ื—ื™ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื. ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืฉื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขื ืขืฆืžื™, ื›ื™ ืขืœ ืžื” ื“ื™ื‘ืจืชื™ ืฉื ืขื ื”ืื ืฉื™ื? ื“ื™ื‘ืจืชื™ ืื™ืชื ืขืœ ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืขืœ ื”ื›ืœื‘ ืฉืœื”ื, ื•ืจื›ื‘ืชื™ ืคืขื ื’ื ืขืœ ืกื•ืก. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ืืช ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”, ื›ืŸ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื”ื‘ืืชื™ ืื™ืชื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ืกืคืจื™ื, ื•ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื™ืฉื‘ืชื™ ื‘ื—ื“ืจ ืฉืœื™, ืื• ื™ืฉื‘ืชื™ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ. ืื ื”ื™ื” ื ืขื™ื ื•ืงืจืืชื™. ื‘ื™ื•ื ืฉื™ืฉื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”, ื•ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ื™ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉื‘ืืชื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื” ืืœ ื”ื•ืจื™ื™, ืฉืจืง ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืืฆืœื, ื•ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช, ืื– ืคื’ืฉืชื™ ืื•ืชื, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื“ืจื›ืชื™ ืื•ืชื. ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืขื•ื“ ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื˜ื™ื•ืœื™ื, ื•ื‘ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื ืกืขืชื™. ืืœื ืžื”, ืืช ื–ื” ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื‘ืงื™ืฅ ืขื“ ืœืกืชื™ื•, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ ื™ืฉ ื‘ืœืื• ื”ื›ื™ ืžืขื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ื—ืงืœืื•ืช ื•ื”ื™ื•ื ื”ื•ื ืงืฆืจ. ืื– ืžื” ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ? ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“, ืœืžื“ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื‘ืžืกืœื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืจืื”, ื›ื™ ืื– ื‘ืžืกืœื•ืœ ืœืจื‘ื ื•ืช ืœืžื“ื• ืจืง ื‘ื ื™ื, ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื”ื•ืจืื” ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื’ื ื‘ื—ื•ืจื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ืจื” ืœื™ื”ื“ื•ืช. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื”ืจืฆืื•ืช ืžืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช, ื›ื™ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื” ื’ื ืขื ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืืงื“ืžืื™ื, ื•ื‘ืื• ืจืง ืœืกืžื™ื ืจ, ืฉืงืจืื• ืœื–ื” ืกืžื™ื ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขืฉืจ ืฉื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืžืžื ื™, ื•ื”ื ืขืžื“ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ืืงื“ืžืื™ื™ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”, ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืชื "ืš, ื•ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ื•ื›ื•'. ื›ื›ื” ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืฉื ื™ื, ื‘ืงื™ืฅ ืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื—ืงืœืื™ืช, ื•ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื. ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืื– ื’ื ื–ืžืŸ ืœืงืจื•ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ื”ืจื‘ื”, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขื™ืœื•ืช ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉื”ื“ืจื›ืชื™ ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืžืžื ื™ ื‘ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ืื• ื‘ืฉืœื•ืฉ.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ืœื™ ืื•ืœื™ ืงืฆืช ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau).
ืช: ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืจืง ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืขื•ื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ืขืœ ื”ืกื•ืฃ ืฉืœื™ ืฉื ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ืžืงื•ื, ื‘ืื•ืชื” ื”ื—ื•ื•ื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ืงืจื ืžื™ืคืจื™ืฆื“ื•ืจืฃ, ืฉื–ื” ืฉื ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ืžืื•ื“ ื•ื”ื™ื•ื ื–ื” ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืื•ืœื™ ืœื. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื•ื ื›ืŸ ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื™ื“ืข ืฉื ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช ืืœื ืจืง ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ืœื ื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืกื• ืœื–ื”. ื”ื ื’ื ื”ืฆื˜ืœื‘ื• ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ืื›ืœื•, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื›ื•ืœื ืงืชื•ืœื™ื. ื”ื™ื• ื—ื’ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ืื ื™ ืœื ื‘ืืชื™, ื•ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ื—ื’ื™ื ืฉื”ื ืœื ืขื‘ื“ื•, ืื– ื’ื ืœื ื‘ืืชื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื˜. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื›ื•ืจ ืœื™ ืฉื™ื•ื ืื—ื“ ื‘ืฉื ื” ื”ืฉื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืื™ื–ื• ื‘ื—ื•ืจื” ืฆืขื™ืจื” ืžื”ืขื™ื™ืจื” ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื”, ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืชื—ื ืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืช ื’ื™ืœื™, ื‘ืช ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื ื—ืžื“ื”. ื”ื™ื ื’ื ื™ื“ืขื” ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”. ื”ื™ื ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ืื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื ืื•ืœื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืืช ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ื›ืš ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžืื•ื“ ืžืกื•ื“ืจ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขืžืžื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืกื•ื“ืจ. ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจื” ื”ื–ืืช ืืžืจื” ืœื™ ืคืขื: ืื‘ื ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืฉืžื— ืื ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืคืขื ืกืจื” ืืœื™ื• ื›ืฉืืช ื‘ืื” ื‘ื™ื•ื ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืขื ื”ืื•ืคื ื™ื™ื ืžืžืฉ ืฉื. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉ, ืื– ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืืœื™ื•. ืืœ ืชืฉื›ื—ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ืžืื•ื“ ืฆืขื™ืจื”. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืžื™ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืื ื™ ืื‘ื•ื ืืœื™ื”ื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”. ื”ื•ื ืœื ืืžืจ ืืช ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื–ื”. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ืขื‘ื“, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื•ืฆื, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืฆื™ืื™ื ืื•ืชื•, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื• ืื™ื–ื• ื ื›ื•ืช. ื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืฆื ืžืŸ ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื›ื ืจืื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืื™ื–ื” ืกื˜ืจื•ืง (ืฉื‘ืฅ) ืงื˜ืŸ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื•, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื“ื™ื‘ืจ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืขืจื ื™. ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœืชืช ืœื™ ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ: ืชื“ืขื™ ืœืš ืฉืืช ืžื›ื•ื‘ื“ืช. ื”ื•ื ืžืžืฉ ื‘ื™ืงืฉ ืฉืื ื™ ืื‘ื•ื ืืœื™ื•, ื”ื•ื ืœื ืืžืจ ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืชื•, ื•ื”ื•ื ื ืชืŸ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื™ื“ื™ ื‘ืชื• ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื” ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ืชื–ืžื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื™. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืคืขื ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื”, ืฉืื ื™ ื ื›ื ืกืชื™ ื›ื›ื” ืœื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื ืฉื . ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืกื•ืฃ ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ืงื™ืฅ ื•ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ืฉื ื” ื”ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ืช, ื‘ืื•ื’ื•ืกื˜ ืคืชืื•ื ื‘ื ื™ื•ื ืื—ื“... . ืœืื™ืฉื” ื”ืืœืžื ื” ื”ื–ืืช, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื™ืฉื” ื ื—ืžื“ื” ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืžืฉื›ื™ืœื” ื›ื›ื” ื™ื—ืกื™ืช, ื”ื™ื ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ื”. ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ื‘ืŸ ื™ื—ื™ื“ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ, ื•ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ื‘ื•ืงืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื” ื›ืžืขื˜ ืฉืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจืชื™ ืื™ืชื•. ืžื™ื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื• ืžื“ื™ื ืฉื—ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืืก.ืืก, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ืืžืจ ืœื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื›ืœื•ื, ืจืง ื‘ื•ืงืจ ื˜ื•ื‘. ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื‘ืžื” ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืขื‘ื“, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืžื” ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื”, ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืขื•ื“ ืžืฉื”ื•, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช. ื™ื•ื ื‘ื”ื™ืจ ืื—ื“ ื‘ืื” ื”ืื™ืฉื” ื•ืืžืจื” ืœื™ ื›ื›ื”: ืื ื™ ืžืฆื˜ืขืจืช ืžืื•ื“, ื–ื” ืœื ืœืคื™ ืจืฆื•ื ื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืืช ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื™ืฉืืจ ื›ืืŸ, ื›ื™ ื‘ื ื™ ืืžืจ ืœื™, ืฉื‘ืืก.ืืก ืืžืจื•, ืฉื”ื ืฉืžืขื• ืฉืื ื™ ืžืขืกื™ืงื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”, ื•ื–ื” ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘ ืฉืืช ืชื™ืฉืืจื™ ื›ืืŸ. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”, ื•ืœื”ืฉืื™ืจ ืื•ืชืš ื›ืืŸ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ืœื™ ื•ืœื ืœื”. ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื’ื ืฉื”ื‘ืŸ ืœื—ืฅ, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช , ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจืชื™ ืื™ืชื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ื‘ื•ืงืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœื ื›ืœื•ื. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื™ื•ื ืืจื–ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื—ืคืฆื™ื ืฉืœื™, ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืœืจื›ื‘ืช, ืฉืœื•ื, ืชื•ื“ื”, ืชื•ื“ื”, ื•ื ืกืขืชื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืงื™ืฅ 35' ืื• 36'.
ืฉ: ื•ืืช ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ ืขื•ื“ ืœื•ืžื“ืช ื‘ื—ื•ืจืคื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื?
ืช: ืื ื™ ื”ืžืฉื›ืชื™ ื‘ื“ืจืš ื”ื–ืืช, ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื ื”ื—ื•ืจืฃ, ื•ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืื•ืœื™ ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืงืฆืช ืœื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ, ื›ื™ ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขืฆื ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ื”ื–ื”.
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืขืœ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืกืคืจ. ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื ืขื“ 38', ืขื“ ืœืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืฉื, ืœืžืขืฉื”, ืขื“ 37', ื•ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืฉื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืฉื ื”ื™ื• ืžืฆื•ื™ื ื™ื. ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืื—ื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื“ื•ืข ืžืื•ื“ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืืจืฅ, ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ื™ืฆื—ืง ื”ื™ื™ื ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื›ืืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื–ืงืŸ. ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืื—ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืื–. ืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจืช, ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืฉื ื™ ืกื•ื’ื™ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื›ืœืœื™. ืืคืฉืจ ื’ื ืœืกื•ื•ื’ ืขื•ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืฉื ื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื‘ืจื•ืจ. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื™ืœื™ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ืืœื” ืฉื‘ืื• ืžืืจืฆื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื’ื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ. ื‘ืื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื ืžืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ืžืœื™ื˜ื, ืžื”ื•ื ื’ืจื™ื”, ืžืฆ'ื›ื•ืกืœื•ื‘ืงื™ื” ื•ื›ื•'. ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื’ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ืฉื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืื•ืœื™ ืœื ื”ืชื ื” ืชื ืื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉืœืžื“ ืฉื ืœืžื“ ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื’ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขืžื™ื ื‘ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ืื™ื–ื•ืฉื”ื™ ืงืจื‘ื”, ืื™ื–ื” ื ื•ืฉื ื”ื•ืžื ื™ืกื˜ื™ ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ืื• ืฉืœ ืฉืคื•ืช ืฉืžื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”. ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื‘ื™ืกื•ื“ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืฉื‘ื—ืœืงื ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื™ืกื•ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืฉืœ ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ืžื‘ื™ืชื ื•ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื. ืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ, ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื™ืœื™ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื™ื“ืขื• ืœื ืจืง ืืช ื”ืฉืคื” ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืืœื ื’ื ืืช ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื›ืœืœื™ืช, ืื•, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืืช ื”ืžืชื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“. ืื‘ืœ ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืืœื” ื•ืืœื” ืœืžื“ื• ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ื–ื” ื”ืฉืชื•ื•ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช. ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืื™ืฉื™ืช ื™ืฉ ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื”ื–ืžื™ื ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ื ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ื‘ืœื™ืœื•ืช ืฉื‘ืช ื•ื‘ื—ื’ื™ื ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื ื›ืืœื” ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื‘ื™ืช ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื’ื ื›ืืœื” ืฉืœื ื‘ืื• ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืืœื ื‘ืื• ืœืฉื ืžื›ืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ื ืกืขื• ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”. ืื‘ืœ ืืœื” ืฉื‘ืื• ืžืืจืฆื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ืœื ื ืกืขื•, ืื– ืขืœ-ื›ืŸ ื‘ืื• ืืœื™ื ื•, ื•ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืฉืืจ ื‘ื ืืœื™ื ื• ื’ื ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืขืœื™, ืื‘ืœ ืื– ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉืจ ื›ื–ื” ื‘ื™ื ื™ื ื•, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืžื ื™ ื‘ืฉืฉ ืฉื ื™ื, ื•ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื”ื–ื” ื–ื” ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื ืขืจื” ื‘ืช ืฉืชื™ื™ื-ืขืฉืจื” ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื ืืœื™ื ื• ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ืื– ื–ื” ื”ื‘ื“ืœ, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“. ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ื›ื•ืœื™ ืฉืงื•ืขื” ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื”ื›ื™ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ.
ืฉ: ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืœ 35', ื•ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ื’ื ืœืฉืื•ืœ ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืขืœ ืžืฉื—ืงื™ ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื–ื” ื’ื ื”ืฉืคืขื”. ื”ืื ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื•ืจื™ืš ื•ืžืฉืคื—ืชืš ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืฉื”ืื“ืžื” ืžืžืฉ ื‘ื•ืขืจืช ืื• ืฉืขื•ื“ ืœื?
ืช: ื”ื ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื’ื™ืฉืฉื• ืžื” ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืžืขืฉื™ืช ืขื ืื™ื–ืฉื”ื• ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ื•ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืจืืฉ ื•ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืœื”ื’ื™ืข. ื›ื™ ื”ืชื ืื™ื ืฉืœ ืงื‘ืœืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื”, ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ื”ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช. ื”ื™ื• ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื™ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื, ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืžื™ื“ ืœืงื—ืช ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ, ื•ืœืขืœื•ืช ืืจืฆื”. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ืจื™ ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื” ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื”ืขื‘ืจื”, ืฉืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื” ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื›ืŸ, ื”ืกื›ื ื”ื”ืขื‘ืจื”.
ืช: ืื‘ืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ืฆืจื™ืš ื›ืกืฃ ื‘ืžื–ื•ืžืŸ. ื–ื” ืœื ืขื–ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื ื’ื™ื“ ืคืกื ืชืจ ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ื›ืฉื˜ื™ื™ืŸ, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืจืง ืขืœื” ื›ืกืฃ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืื•ืชื•, ื•ืฆืจื™ืš ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื“ื™ืจื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืขืžื™ื“ ืื•ืชื•, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืื•ืชื• ืœื›ืกืฃ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืืคืฉืจื•ืช. ืื—ื™ ื”ืื—ื“ ืขืœื”, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื’ื ืื—ื™ ื”ืื—ืจ ืขืœื” ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜, ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœืช 38'. ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืืœื” ื’ืขื’ื•ืขื™ื, ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืœืžืขืฉื”.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืคื—ื“ ื ื•ืจืื™ ืฉืžืฉื”ื• ื ื•ืจื ืขื•ืžื“ ืœืงืจื•ืช?
ืช: ืื™ืŸ ืคื—ื“ ืฉืœ ืกื›ื ืช ื ืคืฉื•ืช, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื™ืฉ ื’ื ืขื™ื ื•ื™ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืขืœ ื™ืกื•ื“ ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืงื” ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ. ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื—ื“ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืกืžื™ื ืจ, ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืžื™ื›ืืœ ื’ื•ื˜ืžืŸ, ืœื ื™ื•ืœื™ื•ืก ื’ื•ื˜ืžืŸ, ืœื ื–ื” ืฉื‘ื ืœื›ืืŸ ื›ืžืจืฆื” ืœืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื”, ืืœื ืžื™ื›ืืœ ื’ื•ื˜ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžืจืฆื” ืœืชืœืžื•ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืชืœืžื™ื“ ื—ื›ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ืžืœื•ืžื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ืžื•ืฆืื• ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืžื‘ื•ื“ืคืฉื˜ (Budapest), ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื‘ืกืžื™ื ืจ. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืคืขื ืžื•ืžื—ื”, ื”ื–ืžื™ื ื• ืื•ืชื• ื›ืžื•ืžื—ื” ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ ืœืžืฉืคื˜ ืฉืœ ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™, ื‘ืื—ืช ื”ืฉื ื™ื, ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืฉื ืช 30', ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื•ืชื• ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™, ื‘ืคืขื™ืœื•ืช ื”ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ืช ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืฉื™ืŸ ืขืœ ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื›ืชื•ื‘ ื‘ืชืœืžื•ื“ ื›ื ื’ื“ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื™ื. ืื– ื”ื•ื–ืžืŸ ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืžื™ื›ืืœ ื’ื•ื˜ืžืŸ, ื›ื‘ืขืœ-ืžืงืฆื•ืข, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืขืžื™ื“ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื“ื™ื•ืงื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืœืจืขืชื• ืฉืœ ืื•ืชื• ื ืืฆื™, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืฉืงืจื™ื, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื•ื›ื™ื— ืื•ืชื. ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืžื™ื›ืืœ ื’ื•ื˜ืžืŸ ื‘-33' ืœืงื— ืžื™ื“ ืืช ื”ื—ืคืฆื™ื ืฉืœื• ื•ื—ื–ืจ ืœื‘ื•ื“ืคืฉื˜ (Budapest). ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข ืฉื™ืขืฉื” ืืช ื–ื”. ืžื™ ืฉืขืžื“ ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ื™ืขืงื•ื‘ืกื•ืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืคืขื™ืœ ื›ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœ ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜. ื”ื•ื ืœืงื— ืืช ื—ืคืฆื™ื• ืžื”ืจ ืžืื•ื“, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื›ืกืฃ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ืืจืฆื” ื‘-33', ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืคืจื“ืก ืขื ื˜ื•ืจื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืขื–ื‘ ืืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื‘-33', ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืืช ืขืฆืžื• ืžืื•ื™ื ื•ื‘ืฆื“ืง. ืื’ื‘, ืื ื™ ื’ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืกืคืจ ืขืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ ืฉื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืžื•ืงื“ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืื•ื™ื. ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื™ื“ื™ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืจื•ืคื, ื ื•ื™ืจื•ืœื•ื’, ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ืคืจื’ืจ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ื’ื ืžืฉื—ืจ ื ืขื•ืจื™ื• ื›ืžื• ืื‘ื™. ื‘ืฉื ืช 31', ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืขืœื• ื‘ื‘ืช-ืื—ืช ืœืžืื” ืฆื™ืจื™ื ื‘ืจื™ื™ื›ืกื˜ืื’ ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ืื™ืŸ ื›ืืŸ ืชืงื•ื•ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉื™ื’ ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ, ื›ื ืจืื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืงืจื•ื‘ ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”, ื›ืš ื ื“ืžื” ืœื™, ื•ืื– ื’ื ื”ืชื ืื™ื ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืงืฉื™ื. ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ืœืืจืฅ ื‘-31', ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ื ื•ื™ืจื•ืœื•ื’ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ื—ื™ืคื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืืŸ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ืฉื—ื‘ืจื• ื™ื—ื“ ืฉื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืคื•ืงื— ืœืจืื•ืช ื›ื‘ืจ ืื– ืืช ื”ืกื›ื ื” ื•ื’ื ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืœื‘ืฆืข ืืช ื–ื” ืขื ืืจื‘ืขื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื ืงืœ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื•, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ, ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืืžืจื ื•: ื”ืœื•ื•ืื™ ื•ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื•, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืš. ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก, ื–ื” ื›ืŸ. ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก, ื•ื’ื ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื’ื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืœื ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœื”ืชืคืจื ืก. ื’ื ืื™ืžื ืขื•ื“ ืขื‘ื“ื” ื›ืกืคืจื ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื, ื•ื’ื ืื‘ื ืขื‘ื“. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืขื•ื–ืจืช ื’ื•ื™ื”.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื”. ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืขื“ 38', ืืœื ืฉื”ื™ื ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื’ืจื” ืืฆืœื ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืชืจ ืœื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืžืกื’ืจืช ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ื“ ืืฆืœื ื•. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืฆืœื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื ื™ื, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืงืชื•ืœื™ืช, ื•ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื ืœื ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืื™, ืื™, ืื™, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ืจืฆืชื” ืœื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื— ื”ืจื‘ื” ื›ืกืฃ.
ืฉ: ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืืœื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืœืœื•. ืื ื›ื™, ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ืื ื™ ืžืื•ื“ ื›ืขืกืชื™ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืžื˜ื•ืคื—ืช ืžืื•ื“ ื•ื›ื•', ื•ื”ื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืจืฆืชื” ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืืฆืœื ื•. ื”ืžืฉื›ื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคื—ื•ืช ืœื”ืขืกื™ืง ืื•ืชื” ืขื“ 38', ืฉืื– ื”ื™ื” ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืืกื•ืจ, ื‘ืื•ืชื ื”ืชื ืื™ื ื”ืžื’ื‘ื™ืœื™ื, ืฉื›ืจื ื• ืœื” ื—ื“ืจ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ ื•ื›ืœ ื–ื”, ื•ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื ื’ื•ืขื”, ื›ืš ื ืงืจื ืœื–ื”, ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ื›ื–ืืช ืœื ืฆืœ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื˜ื•ื‘ืชื” ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืœื ื™ืคื”. ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ื›ืืŸ ืžื›ืชื‘, ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืฉืžืขื” ื›ื ืจืื”, ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ืชื—ืชื ืชื™, ื•ื”ื™ื ื™ื“ืขื” ืืช ื”ืฉื ืื•ืจื‘ืš, ืื• ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืืช ื”ืฉื ืคื™ื ืฆ'ื•ื‘ืจ, ื•ืื—ื™ ืœื™ืžื“ ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื–ื” ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœื™ื“ื™ื ื•, ื•ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืงืฉื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ืžืฉื”ื•. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื›ืžื• ื›ื•ืœื, ื”ื™ื ื ืžืฆืืช ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ื‘ืžืขืจื‘ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœื” ื•ื›ื•' ื•ื›ื•'. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืขื ื™ื ื• ืœื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืฉื•ื ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขืœื™ื›ื ื”ื”ืฉืคืขื” ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฉื—ืงื™ื ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ื™ื ื‘-1936? ื”ืื ื™ืฉ ื‘ืืžืช ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืœื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืงืฆืช, ืื• ืžื” ืงื•ืจื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau)?
ืช: ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื›ื•ืœื ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื ืžืฉื•ื’ืขื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื”. ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ื ื”ืจื™ ื”ื™ื• ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืคืจื•ืคื’ื ื“ื”, ืื– ื”ื ืจืฆื• ืฉื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ื ื•ืฆืฅ, ื ื•ืฆืฅ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ื’ืœื™ื ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ื“ื’ืฉื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ื”ืฆื ื™ืขื• ืงืฆืช ืืช ื”ืจืžื” ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืกืชื” ื”ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ืช, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืจื•ืฉื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™ ืจืข. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืœืงืจืืช ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื” ืขื“ ืœืกื•ืฃ ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื” ื”ืฆื ื™ืขื• ืงืฆืช ืืช ืฉื ืืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื•ื”ืจื“ื™ืคื”, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืจื’ืฉ. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื”ื’ื‘ืœื•ืช ื ื•ืกืคื•ืช. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื•ืชืŸ ื”ืชื”ืœื•ื›ื•ืช ืขื ื”ืฉื™ืจื” ื”ืคืจืื™ืช ื”ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™ืช. ืคืชืื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžืงืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื›ื• ื›ืืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื”ื›ื• ืฉื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืฉื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกื•ื”ืจ ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืจื™ืžื”, ื•ืœืงื—ื• ืืช ื”ื”ื•ื ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกื•ื”ืจ ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืื ืก, ื›ื‘ื™ื›ื•ืœ, ืืจื™ืช. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื›ืœ ืงืฆืช ืžืชื—ืช, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืจื’ืฉ.
ืฉ: ื•ืืชื ื™ื“ืขืชื ืฉื–ื” ืจืง ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืžืฉื—ืงื™ ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ืจื•ืจ, ื›ืœ ืื“ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื• ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื...
ืฉ: ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื‘ื ืชื ืฉื–ื” ืจืง ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ.
ืฉ: ืœื ื—ืฉื‘ืชื, ืฉื”ื ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžืฉืชื ื™ื ืœื˜ื•ื‘ื”?
ืช: ืœื, ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื, ื–ื” ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื—ืฉื‘, ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ืื•ืคื˜ื™ืžื™ืกื˜ ื”ืขื™ื•ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื ื—ืฉื‘ ืืช ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ื‘ืžืฉื—ืงื™ ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื” ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื›ืžื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื›ืžื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืœืžืฉืœ, ื’ื ืขืœื™ื ื• ืขืฉื” ืจื•ืฉื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืื ื›ื™ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืฉืคื™ืข ืœืžืขืฉื”, ืฉืœ ื”ืกืชื” ื ื’ื“ ืฉื—ื•ืจื™ื, ืฉื”ื ืชืช-ืื“ื. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื›ืžื” ืžื ืฆื—ื™ื ืฉื—ื•ืจื™ื, ืฉืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืฉืžื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื.
ืฉ: ื’'ืกื™ ืื•ื•ืŸ ื• .
ืช: ืื– ืœื ืืžืจื• ื”ืฉื—ื•ืจ, ืคืชืื•ื ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืืžืจื• ื‘ืงื•ืœ. ืื‘ืœ ื’ื ื ื’ื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ื”ืกื™ืชื• ืื– ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืžื™ื“ื”, ื•ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื™ื“ืข ืฉื–ื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืื•ืœื™ืžืคื™ืื“ื”. ื‘ืคืจื˜ ืฉื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืฉื ื” ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื”ื—ืจืคื” ื”ืงืฉื” ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืงื™ ื ื™ืจื ื‘ืจื’.
ืฉ: ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืžืžืฉ ืžืขื‘ืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืฉื ืช 36'?
ืช: ืœื, ืœืžืขืฉื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš, ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืื– ืชื•ืงื ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื.
ืฉ: ืœื ืชื•ืงื ื•, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืคื—ื•ืช?
ืช: ืœื ื”ืชื—ื“ืฉื• ื›ืœ ื™ื•ื ื•ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื”ื’ื‘ืœื•ืช ื”ื—ื•ืงื™ื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืื ื˜ื™ ื—ื•ืงืชื™ื•ืช ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื—ื•ืงื™ื•ืช, ื•ื”ื”ืกืชื” ื”ืงื•ืœื ื™ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืขื•ืžืขืžืช ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื ื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื›ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช, ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื”ืฉืคื™ืข ืขืœ ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืฉื‘ื–ื” ื–ื” ื ื’ืžืจ. ืืคื™ืœื• ืืœื” ืฉื—ืฉื‘ื• ืฉื›ืœ ื–ื” ื–ืžื ื™, ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ืžืฉืš ื›ื›ื”, ื—ืฉื‘ื• ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ืžืขืžื“, ื•ื”ื›ืœ ื™ื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืžืงื•ืžื• ื‘ืฉืœื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืขื ื”ื ืืฆื™ื. ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื™ืฉื ื• ืืช ืขื•ืจื, ื–ื” ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื—ืฉื‘. ืืœื ื—ืฉื‘ื• ืฉืจืง ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงืจื” ื—ื™ืฆื•ื ื™ ืฉืœ ืขืžื™ื ื ืื•ืจื™ื ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื™ื›ืจื™ืขื• ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ. ืœื ื—ืฉื‘ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืขืœ ืžืœื—ืžื”, ืื• ืœื ืจืฆื• ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื›ื™ ืื– ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืฉื”ื ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ืžืœื›ื•ื“ืช. ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืœื. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืขืฆื ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขื•, ื”ื™ื” ืคื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืขื™ื•ื•ืจื•ืŸ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื”ื›ืœื›ืœื” ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืื– ืขืœืชื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื—ื™ืžื•ืฉ, ื•ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื‘ื™ืŸ ืฉื—ื™ืžื•ืฉ ื–ื” ืœื ืฆืขืฆื•ืข.
ืฆื“ ื—ืžื™ืฉื™:
ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื’ื ืฉื’ืจื” ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช, ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื ื–ื™ืœื” ื›ืœืคื™ ืžื˜ื” ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ. ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืขื–ื‘ื•, ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื™ืจื“ื• ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช, ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื ืฉื™ื ืขื ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืฉืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื›ืœ ืžืฆื‘ ืฉืœ ื™ืจื™ื“ื”. ืœืคืขืžื™ื, ืคืชืื•ื, ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ื ืคื™ืœื” ืฉืœ ื›ืžื” ืžื“ืจื’ื•ืช, ื–ื” ื›ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืงืจื™ื ืฉืฉืžืขื• ืขืœ ืžืงืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืชื ื›ืœื•ืช ืคื™ื–ื™ืช ื‘ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื™ื“ืขื• ืืช ื–ื”, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืขืฆืžื ืคืจืกืžื• ืืช ื–ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืžื–ื•ื™ืคืช. ื’ื ื”ื”ืชืจื—ืฉื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ื“ื˜ื™ื ื•ืฆ'ื›ื•ืกืœื•ื‘ืงื™ื”. ืงื•ื“ื ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ืกื™ืคื•ื— ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ื” ื‘-38'. ืื•, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืœืคื ื™ ื”ื›ืœ, ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืงื—ื• ืืช ื” ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืืช ื“ื ืฆื™ื’, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื™ืจื™ื“ื”, ืฉื™ื•ืจื“ื™ื, ื™ื•ืจื“ื™ื ื•ื™ื•ืจื“ื™ื. ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืœืœื™ืช ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืžืชื—ื–ืง ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ื•ื ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื›ืœ ืคืขื ืžื•ืคืชืข, ื•ื”ื•ื ืžืจื™ื ืงื•ืœ ืฉื”ืจื™ ื–ื” ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ื”ืกื›ืžื™ื ื‘ื™ื ืœืื•ืžื™ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื–ื”, ืื ื—ื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ ืขื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื™ืคื™ื, ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืฉืฉืžืขื ื• ืขืœ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืฉืžืชืคืชื—ืช. ืœืžืฉืœ, ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ืงื™ืžื• ืืช ื”ื ืžืœ ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘, ืฉืคืชืื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืจื“ืช ืžืŸ ื”ืื•ื ื™ื” ื’ื ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘, ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฉืžื—ื™ื. ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื ืชื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขื™ื“ื•ื“. ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ืกื™ืคืจืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื›ืš ืฉื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื›ืŸ, ืกื™ืคืจืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื ืชื ื• ืื™ื–ื” ืžืฉืงืœ ืฉืœ ืื•ืคื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ื›ืœ ื ืขืฉื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืงื•ื“ืจ. ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื’ื ื”ื™ื” ื—ื•ืฉืš, ื”ื—ื•ืฉืš ื”ื™ื” ืื ืงืจื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืงืฉื™ื ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“. ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื•, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื™ื–ื• ื“ื•ื’ืžื ืื™ืš ื”ื”ืกืชื” ื”ื ืืฆื™ืช ื‘ืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงืฉื”. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื”ืชืคืชื—ื•ืช ืœืฆื“ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื•ืช. ืืช ื–ื” ืฉืžืขืชื™ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืื• ืœื ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืžืคื™, ืื ื™ ืื’ื™ื“ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืžืคื™ ืืคืจื™ื ืื•ืจื‘ืš, ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ื‘ืฉื ืช 35' ืœืื™ื˜ืœื™ื” ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ืจืช ืงืฆืช, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื‘ืฆื“ ื”ื‘ื™ื•ื’ืจืืคื™. ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืœืื™ื˜ืœื™ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืฉื ืืช ื”ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜ ืฉืœื• ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื‘ืจื•ืžื. ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืืช ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื•ื’ื ืืช ื”ืจื‘ื ื•ืช, ืืช ื”ืกืžื™ื ืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ื“ืจืš ื•ื•ื™ื ื”, ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื™ื ื” ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ื”ืคืกืงื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื‘ืงืจ ืืฆืœ ืžืœื•ืžื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื•ื•ื™ื ื”, ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืืคื˜ื•ื‘ื™ืฆืจ. ืื– ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืฉื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ื”ืคืกืงื” ืฉืœ ื™ื•ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœืคื’ื•ืฉ ืื•ืชื•, ืœื”ื›ื™ืจ ืื•ืชื• ืคื ื™ื ืืœ ืคื ื™ื, ื•ืœื ืจืง ืžืชื•ืš ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ืงืจ ื•ื›ืชื‘. ื”ื•ื ื ื›ื ืก ืœื—ืฉืžืœื™ืช, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื ืจืื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื”ื•ื ืขืžื“ ืฉื, ื•ืขืœ ื™ื“ื• ืขืžื“ ืื™ื–ื” ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™. ืื– ืืคืจื™ื ืฉืืœ ืืช ืื•ืชื• ื”ืื™ืฉ, ืื™ืคื” ื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืจื“ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืžืงื•ื ืžืกื•ื™ื. ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืืคืจื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื‘ื”ื‘ืจื” ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ืช, ืืœื ื‘ื”ื‘ืจื” ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช. ื”ืื™ืฉ ืืžืจ ืœื•: ืืชื” ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื”ื ื”... , ื”ื•ื ืคืชื— ืืช ื”ื“ืฉ ืฉืœ ื‘ื’ื“ื•, ื•ื”ืจืื” ืœื• ืฉื‘ืฆื“ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืกืžืœ ืฉืœ ืฆืœื‘ ืงืจืก. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืกื™ืžืŸ ื›ืžื” ื”ื ืืฆื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฉื ืช 35' ื›ื‘ืจ ื—ื“ืจื” ื’ื ืœืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ืฉื›ื ื•ืช. ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ืœื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ, ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื•ื’ืข ืœื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื ืจื“ืคื• ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืฉืงืคืชื ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื‘ืŸ-ื“ื•ื“, ืžืžืฉ ื‘ืŸ-ื“ื•ื“ ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืžื ื™ ื‘ืื—ืช-ืขืฉืจื” ืฉื ื™ื, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘ืฉื ืช 1907. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื, ืื•ืžื ื, ืžื‘ื™ืช ื‘ื•ืจื’ื ื™ ื“ืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆื™ื™ืจ ืงืจื™ืงื˜ื•ืจื•ืช, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืชืคืจื ืก ืžื–ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืงืจื™ืงื˜ื•ืจื™ืกื˜ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืžื ื”ื™ื’ื™ื ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื“ื•ืขื™ื. ื”ื•ื ื ืฉืืจ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื ืืžืŸ, ืื– ื”ื•ื ืฉื™ืจืช ื’ื ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืืช ื”ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ื™ื“ื™ืขื•ืช ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืœืžื ื”ื™ื’ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืื– ื‘ืคืจืื’, ืฉื‘ืจื—ื• ืžื™ื“ ื‘-33', ื›ื™ ืื—ืจืช ื”ื™ื• ืžื›ื ื™ืกื™ื ืื•ืชื ืœื“ื›ืื• ืื• ืœืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื. ืื– ืžื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ืฉืœื™ื— ืฉืœื”ื ื“ืจืš ื”ืกื•ื“ื˜ื™ื ืœืฆ'ื›ื•ืกืœื•ื‘ืงื™ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ื™ื“ื™ืขื•ืช ืื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ื”ื•ืจืื•ืช. ืขื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืชืคืก, ืื– ื”ื™ื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ืžืฉืคื˜, ื•ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš, ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ืื• ืฉืœื•ืฉ, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง, ืžืืกืจ ืงืฉื”, ืฉืงืจืื• ืœื–ื” ืฆื•ื›ื˜ ื”ืื•ื–. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald), ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald). ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืขื“ ืฉืขื‘ืจื• ืฉืœื•ืฉ ื”ืฉื ื™ื. ืื– ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื• ืœืคื ื™ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ ื•ืืžืจื• ืœื•: ืื ืืชื” ืชืขื–ื•ื‘ ืœื ืจืง ืืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืืœื ืืช ืื™ืจื•ืคื” ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœืื•ืงื™ื™ื ื•ืก, ื”ื ื” ืืชื” ื—ื•ืคืฉื™, ื•ืืชื” ืชืขื–ื•ื‘ ืžื—ืจ. ืื ืœื, ืœื. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืขื™ื•ื•ืจ ื ืืžืŸ ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ ืฆืขื™ืจ ืžืื•ื“ ืžืกื•ืจ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืขื–ื•ื‘. ืื– ื”ื›ื ื™ืกื• ืื•ืชื• ื‘ื—ื–ืจื” ืœื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald), ืื• ืฉืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืื– ืฉืœื—ื• ืื•ืชื• ืœื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald), ื•ืฉื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžื—ืœืงื” ื”ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ืื•ืชื ื”ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื. ื›ืืŸ ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืืœื ื›ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜, ื•ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื ืจืื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืืช ื–ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื’ื™ื“. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ ืขื ืฉื ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื’ื ืฉื ืฉืœ ื’ื•ื™. ืฉื ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื“ื‘ืจื’, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืฉื ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ื–ื” ื’ื ื’ื•ื™ื™ื ื•ื’ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ื›ืืฉืจ ื‘ืฉื ืช 38', ื•ืื ื™ ืžืงื“ื™ืžื” ืืช ื”ืžืื•ื—ืจ, ืื‘ื™ ื ืืกืจ ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜, ื•ื”ื•ื‘ื ืœื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald), ืฉื ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ืขื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืžื” ื™ืžื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฆืืช ืžืŸ ื”ืฆืจื™ืคื™ื, ื•ืœื”ืชื”ืœืš ืฉื. ืื‘ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœื’ื“ืจ, ื•ื‘ืฆื“ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื”ื™ื” ื”ืื—ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื• ืžืจืคื•ืœื™. ื”ื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ื“ืจืš ื”ื’ื“ืจ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื™ื—ืกื™ืช ื˜ื•ื‘. ืœืžื”? ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืžื˜ื‘ื—, ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืื›ืœ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื ืจืื” ื›ืžื• ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœื• ื‘ืงื•ืฉื™ ืžืฉื”ื• ืœืื›ื•ืœ. ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืŸ-ื“ื•ื“ ื ืฉืืจ ืขื“ ืœืกื•ืฃ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ื‘ื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald) ื›ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™, ื•ืœื ื”ื•ืฉืžื“ ื›ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ืœื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ืžื–ืจื—ื™ืช. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื’ื•ืจืœ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™, ืฉืฉื™ื—ืง ืœื• ื”ืžื–ืœ, ืื• ืœื ืฉื™ื—ืง ืœื• ื”ืžื–ืœ, ื–ื” ืงืฉื” ืœื•ืžืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขื“ ื›ื“ื™ ื›ืš ืžืืžื™ืŸ ืฉืชื”ื™ื” ื’ืื•ืœื” ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ื‘ื–ื” ื›ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืจืง ืืคื™ื–ื•ื“ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืžืื•ื“ ื˜ื™ืคื•ืกื™ืช. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื ืžืฉื›ื•, ืงืฆืช ืžื”ื—ื ื™ื›ื™ื ืฉืœื™ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ืฉืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื–ื›ื•, ื•ืขืœื• ืืจืฆื”. ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ื ืชื ื• ืœื”ื ืœืœื›ืช ื’ื ืื ื”ื ื ืฉืืจื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืœื‘ื“ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”. ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ื•ืฆืื• ื›ื•ืœื ืžื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื”ืžืฉืš. ืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ ื›ืœ ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื™ื—ื“ ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ื ื•ืขืจ ื•ื ืคื’ืฉื ื•. ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ืกื™ืคืจืชื™, ื ื“ืžื” ืœื™, ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื˜ืขื ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื• ืคืขื•ืœื•ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ืชื ื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ืœื ืขื•ื™ื ื™ื ืื—ื“ ืืช ื”ืฉื ื™. ื”ื™ื• ื—ืœืง ืฉืœืžื“ื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื•ื”ื™ื• ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉืจืง ืจืฆื• ืœืฆืืช, ืื– ืื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืžื–ืœ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ืขืœื• ืืจืฆื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืคืขื™ืœื•ืช ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื– ื‘ืžื” ืขืกืงื ื•? ื˜ื™ื™ืœื ื•, ืฉื•ื—ื—ื ื• ืขืœ ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืงืจืื ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื›ืœืœื™ืช ื•ื‘ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช, ื•ืœืžื“ื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื‘ืขืฆื ืื ืฉื•ืืœื™ื ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™, ืžื‘ืœื™ ืœืฉื™ื ืœื‘ ืœื›ืœ ื”ื–ื•ื•ืขื” ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื’ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื›ืœ ืฉื—ื•ืจ, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ืœื ื ื›ื•ืŸ. ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ืคื ื™ืžื™ื™ื ื‘ื™ื ื™ื ื• ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ืขืฆืžื ื• ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื›ืš ืฉื ื•ืขืจ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื’ื“ื•ืœ, ืœืฆืžื•ื—, ื•ืœืจืื•ืช ืชื•ื›ืŸ ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื, ื›ืฉืœื ืจืื• ืืช ืžื” ืฉืงืจื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš, ืืช ื–ื” ืœื ืจืื•.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉืืชื ื•ื“ืื™ ืจื•ืื™ื ืฉื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื•ืจื—ื™ื ื•ืขื•ื–ื‘ื™ื...?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืฆื˜ืขืจื ื• ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื• ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™ ืื™ืฉื™ืช ืื• ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืจื™ื™, ืฉื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ืœืฆืืช ื‘ืื™ื–ื•ืฉื”ื™ ื“ืจืš. ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืœื” ืฉืœื ื‘ืื• ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”, ื•ื”ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืืคื™ื“ื™ื•ื™ื“.
ืฉ: ืœืžืฉืœ ื”ืงื™ื ื“ืจ ื˜ืจื ืกืคื•ืจื˜.
ืช: ื”ืงื™ื ื“ืจ ื˜ืจื ืกืคื•ืจื˜ ื”ื™ื” ืจืง ื‘ืกื•ืฃ, ืื‘ืœ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื–ืืช ื”ื’ื‘ืจืช ืจื—ื” ืคืจืื™ื™ืจ, ื•ื”ื™ื ื‘ืืžืช ืงื™ื‘ืœื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืœืžืขืฉื” ืืช ื›ืœ ืžื‘ื ื” ื”ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืขืฉื” ื‘ืขื–ืจืช ื”ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช ื•ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ืœืื•ืžื™ืช โ€“ ื”ื ืจื™ื™ื˜ื” ืกื•ืœื“. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื‘ืขืฆื ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ, ื•ื’ื ื‘ื™ืฆืขื” ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืœืงื—ื”, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื™ื. ื”ื™ื ื”ื‘ื™ืื” ืื•ืชื ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืขื“ ืœื™ื•ื’ื•ืกืœื‘ื™ื” ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ืœืื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ืจืืชื” ืืคืฉืจื•ืช. ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืœ ืงื™ื ื“ืขืจ, ืฉืœ ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื, ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืื˜ื” ื‘ืจื’ืจ, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืžื ื”ืœืช ืฉืœ ืžื•ืกื“ "ืื”ื‘ื”" ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื•ื”ื™ื ื”ื‘ื™ืื” ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืขื–ืจืช ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื‘ื—ืœืงื ืœืงืจื™ื™ืช ื‘ื™ืืœื™ืง, ื•ืฉื ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ืืช ื”ืžื•ืกื“ "ืื”ื‘ื”", ืฉืฉื™ืžืฉ ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ืœื ืจืง ืฉืœ ื’ื™ืœ ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืืœื ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืจื•ื‘ื ื™ืชื•ืžื™ื. ื”ื ืœื ื‘ืื• ืžื‘ืชื™ื ืžืกื•ื“ืจื™ื ื•ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ื›ืžื• ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืขืชื™ื“, ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื‘ืฉื ืช 37' ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืื•ืชื™, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ืฉื™ื™ืš ืœื ืจืง ืœื™ ืื™ืฉื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืื•ืชื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ืฉืœ ืžื™ื˜ืœืจืŸ ื”ื›ืฉืจื”. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœืš ืžื” ื–ื” ืžื™ื˜ืœืจืŸ ื”ื›ืฉืจื”. ื”ื›ืฉืจื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื—ื™ื›ื• ืœืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืœื•ืช ืืจืฆื” ื•ืœื”ื’ืฉื™ื. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื ืขื‘ื“ื• ื‘ื—ืงืœืื•ืช ืื• ืœื ื‘ื—ืงืœืื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืขื‘ื“ื• ื‘ืงื•ืžื•ื ื•ืช. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืš, ืฉื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ื”ื ืจืฆื• ืœืขืœื•ืช ืืจืฆื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืžืกืคื™ืง ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื”, ื”ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื‘ืžืกื’ืจืช ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื•ื”ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืฉื•ื ืžืกื’ืจืช, ืื– ื”ื ืจืฆื• ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืœื”ืชื›ื•ื ืŸ. ืื– ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ื”ื›ืฉืจื” ื›ืžื• ื—ื•ื•ืช, ืฉืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื”ื›ืœืœ, ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉื›ืจ ืื•ืชืŸ ืื• ื—ื›ืจ ืื•ืชืŸ, ื•ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื›ืžื• ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื‘ืืจืฅ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื, ื”ื ืขื‘ื“ื• ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื—ืงืœืื™ืช, ื—ื™ื• ื‘ืงื‘ื•ืฆื”, ื•ื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื ืฉื’ื ืœื™ืžื“ื• ืื•ืชื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ื ื•ื’ืข ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื•ื”ื ื—ื™ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ืืช ื–ื” ืขืฉื• ื’ื ื”ื—ืœื•ืฅ, ืžื™ื˜ืœืจืŸ ื”ื›ืฉืจื”. ืžื™ื˜ืœืจืŸ ื–ื” ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™, ืฉื”ื ืœื ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื•ืœื ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื, ืืœื ื’ื™ืœ ื ืขื•ืจื™ื. ื•ืขืฉื• ืืช ื–ื” ื’ื ื”ื‘ื—"ื“ โ€“ ื‘ืจื™ืช ื—ืœื•ืฆื™ื ื“ืชื™ื™ื. ืื– ืžื”ื‘ื—"ื“ ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืžื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืื”ื™ื” ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ, ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื”ื›ืฉืจื” ื”ืคืจื˜ื™ืช ืฉืœื™, ืืœื ื”ื•ื‘ืืชื™, ืื• ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœืžืงื•ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžื™ื˜ืœืจืŸ ื”ื›ืฉืจื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื ืจื—ื•ืง ืžืœื™ื™ืคืฆื™ื’, ื•ื”ืžืงื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ืงืจื ื‘ื•ืžืกื“ื•ืจืฃ. ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœ, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื”, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืฉื™ืฉื™ื ื‘ื ื™ื ื•ื‘ื ื•ืช ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ืฉืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื”ื ืจืฆื• ืœืขืœื•ืช ืืจืฆื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ื•ื”ื ื—ื™ื• ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืฉื. ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžืฉืง, ื•ืขื‘ื“ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื—ืงืœืื™ืช. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืกื•ืกื™ื ื•ื›ืœื™ื, ื•ืขื‘ื“ื• ืฉื ื‘ื—ืงืœืื•ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืฉื ื‘ื™ืช ืฉื‘ื• ื‘ื™ืฉืœื•, ื•ื—ื™ื• ืืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื›ืื™ืœื• ื–ื” ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ืฉื ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœืžื“ื• ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื—ื™ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“, ื•ืœืžื“ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ืขื•ื“ ืื—ืจื™ื. ื›ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ื’ื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืžืขืฉื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื“ืื’ืชื™ ืœื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ื™ื. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ืžืืฉืจ ืœื”ื, ื•ื“ืื™ ื‘ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื’ื ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื›ืœืœื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืžืžื ื™, ื”ื ืœืžื“ื• ืคื—ื•ืช ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ื•ืงืจืื• ืคื—ื•ืช. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื™ื—ื“. ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื‘ืžืงืจื”, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืจื•ื—, ืฉืคืขื ื‘ื ืœื‘ืงืจ ืžื˜ืขื ื”ื‘ื—"ื“, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ื“ ืฉืขืœื” ืืจืฆื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ืจื•ื“ืจื™ื’ื–, ืฉื–ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ื”ื“ืชื™ืช ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ืืœื™ื ื• ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื”ื•ื ื ืฉืœื—. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืžื•ืฆื ื’ืจืžื ื™, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ื–ืžื ื• ืื’ืจื•ื ื•ืžื™ื”, ืงืจืื• ืื•ื“ื™ ื”ืจืฅ, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืงืจืื• ืœื• ืื‘ืจื”ื ื”ืจืฅ, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ื‘ื ื”. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืขื•ืจื‘ ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ื—"ื“, ืื– ื”ื•ื ื’ื ื‘ื ืœื‘ืงืจ ืืฆืœื ื• ื‘ืžื™ื˜ืœืจืŸ ื‘ื‘ื•ืžืกื“ื•ืจืฃ. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื‘ื, ื•ื”ื•ื ื™ืฉื‘ ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื‘ื ื•ืช, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื™ืคื” โ€“ ืžืื™-ื™ื•ื ื™ ื‘ืงื™ืฅ. ื™ืฉื‘ื ื• ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ, ืงื™ืœืคื ื• ืชืคื•ื—ื™-ืื“ืžื”, ืชื™ืงื ื• ื’ืจื‘ื™ื™ื, ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ืืœื”, ื•ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื–ื” ืฉืจื ื•. ืื– ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื ื•, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืืช ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ, ืฉื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื ื•: ืชืจืื•, ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืื™ื“ื™ืœื™ ื›ืžื• ืฉืืชืŸ ื™ื•ืฉื‘ื•ืช ื›ืืŸ ื•ืฉืจื•ืช ื‘ืฉืขื” ืฉืืชืŸ ืขื•ื‘ื“ื•ืช. ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”, ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื—ื, ื•ืื™ืŸ ื›ื•ื— ืœืฉื™ืจ. ื”ื•ื ืฉืคืš ืงืฆืช ืžื™ื ืงืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืชืœื”ื‘ื•ืช ื”ื ืขื•ืจื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื—ื™ื™ื ื™ืคื™ื. ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืชื•ืš ืขืฆืžื ื• ื‘ืชื•ื›ื ื•, ื”ื™ื• ื™ื—ืกื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื•ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ืฉืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืœื—ืฅ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื—ืฅ ืขื ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช, ืขื ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ื”ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื, ืžื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขืชื™ื“. ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืœื‘ื“ื ื‘ืชื•ื›ื ืขื ื”ืชืงื•ื•ื” ืฉื™ื’ื™ืขื• ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื ื•ื ืขืœื”, ื–ื” ืฉื™ื ื” ืืช ืžืฆื‘ ื”ืจื•ื—. ืœื›ืŸ ืื ื™ ื—ื™ื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื™ื—ื“ ืื™ืชื ื›ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”, ืจืง ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจืช ืžื”ื. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ื‘ืช ืฉืžื•ื ื”-ืขืฉืจื”, ื’ื ืœื ื–ืงื ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจืช ืžื”ื, ื•ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืงืฆืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ื. ื”ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืžืจ ื”ื™ื”, ืื– ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื‘ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืจืง ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื” ื”ื™ื”. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื’ื ืœืฉื ื‘ืื• ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื ืกื’ืจื•, ื•ื”ื ื”ืขืžื™ื“ื• ืืช ื›ื•ืœื ื‘ืฉื•ืจื”. ืืช ื”ื‘ื ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ื•ื’ื ื‘ื ื™-ื—ืžืฉ ืขืฉืจื” ื”ื ืœืงื—ื• ืœืžื—ื ื•ืช ื”ืกื’ืจ. ื‘ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช "ื”ื—ื’ื™ื’ื™ืช" ื”ื–ืืช ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ืจื’ื• ืฉื ื™ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจื™ื, ื•ื“ืื™ ืžืชื•ืš ืชืื•ื•ื” ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœืจืื•ืช ื’ื ื“ื, ืœืคื™ ื”ืฉื™ืจ ืฉืœื”ื: ื›ืืฉืจ ื“ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื ื™ืชื– ืื– ื”ื›ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘. ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืจืง ืกื•ืคืจ ืœื™, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืกื•ืฃ ืฉืœ ื‘ื•ืžืกื“ื•ืจืฃ. ืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ, ืื ืื ื™ ื“ื ื” ืขืœ-ืคื™ ื”ืกื•ืฃ, ื›ืฉื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืจืง ื—ืœืง ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืืจืฆื”, ื•ืื ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืื– ื—ืœืง ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื ืกืคื•, ื•ืœื ื”ืกืคื™ืงื• ืœืฆืืช, ืื ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืขืœ ื–ื”, ืื ื™ ืจืง ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื–ื“ืขื–ืข ื•ืœื‘ื›ื•ืช. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืฉื ื” ืžืฉื•ื ื›ืš ืืช ืžื” ืฉืืžืจืชื™ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืฉื‘ืฉืขื” ืฉื™ืฉื‘ื• ืฉื, ืขื‘ื“ื• ื™ื—ื“, ื•ื”ืจืื• ืืช ื›ื•ื—ื ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื•ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืฆืœื™ื— ื‘ื–ื”, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืฉืžื—ื” ืฉืœ ื ื•ืขืจ, ืฉื‘ืื•ืชื• ืจื’ืข ื”ื ืœื ื—ืฉื‘ื• ืื™ืคื” ื”ื ื™ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžื ื•ืชืงื™ื, ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืงืฉืจ ืขื ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”. ื”ื ื•ืฃ ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื™ืคื”, ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื ื—ืœ ื•ื”ื™ื” ื™ืขืจ.
ืฉ: ื”ื˜ื‘ืข?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื˜ื‘ืข. ืื™ืฉื™ืช ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืงืฉื”. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ื“ื‘ืจ ืžืฉืคื—ืชื™, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื–ื” ืฉื™ื™ืš ื’ื ืœืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ื”ืืœื”. ื”ืฉืื™ืคื” ืœืฆืืช ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื™ื ื•ืืจ 38' ื’ื ืื—ื™ ื”ืื—ืจ, ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื’ื ืœืžื“ ื•ื’ื ืขื‘ื“ ื•ื›ื•'. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื‘ื—ืœื•ืฅ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืคืขื™ืœ ื‘ื–ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ืกืžื™ื ืจ ืฉืœ ื“ื•ื“ ื™ืœื™ืŸ. ืื’ื‘, ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข ื”ื™ื˜ื‘, ื”ื™ื˜ื‘ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื›ื›ื” ืฉืžื™ื“ ื ืชื ื• ืœื• ื›ืืŸ ืœื”ื™ื›ื ืก ืœื›ื™ืชื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”. ื”ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื”ื›ืœืœื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”. ื”ื•ื ื ืงืœื˜ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ, ืื– ืฉื ื™ ื”ืื—ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืŸ, ื•ืจืง ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื•ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ื“ื•ื“ื™ื, ื“ื•ื“ื•ืช, ืกื‘ืชื ื•ื›ื•', ืื‘ืœ ืืฆืœื ื•, ื ื’ื™ื“, ื”ื’ืจืขื™ืŸ. ืื– ืื—ื“ ื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื–ืžืŸ, ื”ื•ื, ืจืื” ื›ื ืจืื”, ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืขื™ืชื•ืŸ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืช ืžื–ืจื—ื™ ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื, ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื™ืช ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืช ืžื–ืจื—ื™, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืกื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื•ืกื“ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื ืฉื•ืช ืžื–ืจื—ื™ ื”ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื•ืช ื›ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ ืœื‘ื ื•ืช, ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืžืขืฉื™ื™ื. ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ืื–? ืžืฉืง ื‘ื™ืช, ืชืคื™ืจื” ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ืงืฆืช ื—ืงืœืื•ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ ืจืฉ"ื™ ืžืื—ื•ืจื”, ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื–ื” ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ื ื•ื™, ื”ื™ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืฉื ื’ื™ื ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื’ื ื ื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื’ื ื ื•ืช ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืœ ื’ื™ื ื” ื•ืœื ืฉืœ ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื. ื”ื ื—ื™ืคืฉื• ืžื ื”ืœืช, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘-34' ืื• 35', ื•ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ื‘ื ื•ืช ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื—ื™ืคืฉื• ืžื ื”ืœืช, ืื– ืื—ื™ ื›ืชื‘ ืœื ื•: ืื•ืœื™ ืื™ืžื ืชื ืกื” ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื•ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืชืฆืื•? ืื™ืžื ืคื ืชื”, ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืžื” ื”ื™ื ืœืžื“ื”, ื•ืžื” ื”ื™ื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืื™ื–ื• ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื™ืฉ ืœื” ื•ืื™ื–ื” ืžืขืžื“ ื™ืฉ ืœื”. ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ืžืขืžื“ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื ื”ืœืช ืฉืœ ื”ืกืคืจื™ื™ื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื•ืžืื•ื“ ื™ื“ื•ืขื”, ื•ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื—ื‘ืจื” ื‘ืžื•ืขืฆืช ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”. ืจืื•, ืฉืื•ืœื™ ื–ื” ืžืชืื™ื. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื’ื™ืœ ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืฉืœื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื’ื™ืœ ื˜ื•ื‘, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื ื”ืœืช ืฉืœ ืื™ื–ื” ืžื•ืกื“ ื—ื™ื ื•ื›ื™. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ื” ืžืขื•ืจื‘ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื›ืื, ื›ืืฉืช ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื›ืžื•ืจื”. ื”ื™ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื” ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™ืช, ืฉืžื–ืžื™ื ื™ื ืื•ืชื” ืœื ื™ืกื™ื•ืŸ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืืžืจื• ืฉื‘ืงื™ืฅ 38' ื”ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœื”ื’ื™ืข. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ืขืจืš, ืื’ื‘, ืงืฆืช ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ืกื™ืจื• ืืช ื”ืจื™ืฉื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืœืจื•ืคืื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื™ืžื ื ืกืขื” ืœืืจืฅ, ื•ืื– ืงืจื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื‘ื“ืจืš ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื•ืงืฆืช ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ื” ืœื”... . ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื” ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ืชืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื‘ืขืœื”, ืืช ื”ื‘ืช ื•ื’ื ืื ื–ืงื ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื ืชื™ืกืข, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืจืืชื”, ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ื“ื“ื ื• ืื•ืชื”, ืืžืจื ื• ืœื”: ืชื™ืกืขื™, ืืช ืชื”ื™ื™ ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ื™ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกื“ืจ ื•ื›ื•'. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœื—ื•ืฆื”, ืื– ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื ืกืขื” ืœืืจืฅ, ื”ื™ื ื ืกืขื” ืœื‘ืงืจ ืืช ืื—ื™ื” ื”ืฆืขื™ืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื™ืžืื™ ื—ื•ืงืจ ื‘ื”ื•ืœื ื“. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืขื ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื•, ืื™ืฉื” ื•ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ืื ื—ื ื•, ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื›ื“ื™ ืงืฆืช ืœื”ื‘ืจื™ื ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ืืจืฆื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืจื•ื“ื”. ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื”ื•ื ื“ืจื•ืฉ, ื›ื™ ืื—ืจืช ืื™ืŸ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ื”ืžืฉืš. ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืืŸ ื”ืื— ืฉืœื” ืืžืจ ืœื”: ืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื”, ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ื”, ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืื ื’ืœื™ื ืืžื™ื“ื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ื—ื•ื•ื”, ื”ื—ื•ื•ื” ื”ื–ืืช ืžื—ื•ืฅ ืœืœื•ื ื“ื•ืŸ, ื•ื”ื ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื™ืฉืžื—ื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชืš ื›ืื•ืจื—ืช. ืื– ืชื™ืกืขื™ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืžื˜ืจื™ืืกื˜ื” ืžืกืื•ืช' ื”ืžืคื˜ื•ืŸ ืœื—ื™ืคื”. ื”ื™ื ื”ื•ื–ืžื ื”, ืื– ื”ื™ื ืืžืจื”: ื›ืŸ. ื”ื™ื ื’ื ื—ืฉื‘ื” ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื ืชื”ื™ื” ืœื” ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื•ื˜ืคืช ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ืชื‘ื•ื ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืื™ืš ืชื”ื™ื” ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื ืชืฆื˜ืจืš ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื’ื ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืžื ื“ื˜ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื ื™ื“ืขื” ื™ืคื” ืœืงืจื•ื ืื ื’ืœื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืœื“ื‘ืจ ื•ื›ื›ื” ื”ื™ื ื—ืฉื‘ื”. ื”ื™ื ื ืกืขื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื” ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื™ืžื™ื. ืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืฉื ืฉืœ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืฆืœื, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ื ื—ืžื“ื™ื ืืœื™ื” ื›ืžื• ืœืื•ืจื—ืช. ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ืจืฆืชื” ืœื ืกื•ืข ื”ื ืืžืจื• ืœื”: ื’ื‘ืจืช ืคื™ื ืฆ'ื•ื‘ืจ, ืžื” ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืœืžืขื ืš. ื”ื™ื ืืžืจื” ืœื”ื: ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื•, ืชืฉืœื—ื• ืคืจืžื™ื˜ ื›ืื•ืคืจ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื‘ืชื™. ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื‘ืช ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ืช ืชืฉืข-ืขืฉืจื”, ื›ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืช ืชืฉืข-ืขืฉืจื”, ื›ืžืขื˜ ื‘ืช ืขืฉืจื™ื. ืื™ืžื ืฉืœื™ ืืžืจื” ืœื”ื: ืชืฉืœื—ื• ืœื” ืคืจืžื™ื˜ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ืชื•ื›ืœ ืœืฆืืช ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ื›ื™ ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืฉืžื•ื ื”-ืขืฉืจื”, ืืคื™ืœื• ืื ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืฉื™ื’ื” ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืื‘ื, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื•ืœืœ ืื•ืชื™. ื”ื ืืžืจื• ืœื”: ืœืžื” ืœื. ืคืจืžื™ื˜ ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืชืช ื›ืืœื” ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืขืกื™ืง ื‘ืŸ-ืื“ื, ืฉื”ื•ื ืื—ืจืื™ ืœืคืจื ืกื”, ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื™ื™ืคื•ืœ ืขืœ ืžืฉืœืžื™ ื”ืžื™ืกื™ื ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ื”. ื”ื ืืžืจื• ืœืื™ืžื: ืœืžื” ืœื, ื‘ืจืฆื•ืŸ. ืื™ืžื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืœื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืžื›ืชื‘. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื ืขื–ื‘ื” ืฉื, ื”ื™ื ื ืกืขื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ื‘ืื—ื“ ื”ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืœื™: ื”ื ื™ืฉืœื—ื• ืœืš ืคืจืžื™ื˜, ื›ื›ื” ื”ื ื”ื‘ื˜ื™ื—ื• ืœื™.
ืฉ: ืžื™ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืืœื”?
ืช: ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืื™ื ื ื™ ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื”. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืžื“ื•ืจื•ืช, ื›ื™ ืื—ืจืช ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ืฉื ื—ื•ื•ื” ื•ื’ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื›ืกืฃ. ื”ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื”ื™ื• ืžื™ื•ื“ื“ื™ื ืขื ื“ื•ื“ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžืื™ืžืชื™.
ืฉ: ืื– ื”ื, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืขื–ืจื• ืœืื™ืžื ื‘ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜?
ืช: ืœื, ื‘ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ืœื. ืœืื™ืžื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ืืœื ืœืื™ืžื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื•ื™ื–ื” ืขื ืจื™ืฉื™ื•ืŸ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืœืฉื ื” ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ.
ืฉ: ืื– ื”ื™ื ื ืกืขื” ืœืฉื ืœื ืคื•ืฉ, ื‘ืขืฆื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืจืง ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื™ืžื™ื. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื•ืœื™ ืฉื‘ื•ืขื™ื™ื ื‘ื”ื•ืœื ื“ ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ื”, ื•ื”ืคืจื™ื“ื” ืžืื ื’ืœื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ืจืืชื” ืื•ืชื ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืœื”ื ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืžื›ืชื‘ ืชื•ื“ื”, ื•ื‘ื–ื” ื ื’ืžืจ ื”ืงืฉืจ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืงืฉืจ. ื”ื ื”ื‘ื˜ื™ื—ื• ืฉื”ื ื™ื“ืื’ื•, ืฉืื ื™ ืืงื‘ืœ ืคืจืžื™ื˜ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืืฆืœื ืื•ืคืจ, ื”ื ืจืฉืžื• ืืช ืฉืžื™, ืืช ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ืช ื•ื›ื•'. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ืžืฆื‘ ื ืขืฉื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืงืฉื”. ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื™ื•ื ื™, ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืฉืื™ืžื ื ืกืขื”, ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืขืฉื• ืžืฉื”ื•, ืฉืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ื—ื–ืจื” ื›ืœืœื™ืช ืœืงืจืืช ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜. ืžื” ืคื™ืจื•ืฉื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ? ื‘ืœื™ืœื” ืื—ื“ ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื™ื•ื ื™ ื”ื ืคืฉื˜ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืขืœ ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช, ื•ืกืชื ืืกืจื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืื™ื–ื” ืžื•ืฉื’, ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื ืืกืจื• ืžืื” ื•ื—ืžื™ืฉื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืœื ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื, ืœื ื›ืืœื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื—ื™ื• ืขื ืืจื™ื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื›ืœ ื”ืคืฉืขื™ื ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื, ืืœื ืกืชื. ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืฉื ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืฉื”ื›ืจืชื™, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืกืชื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื›ืžื• ืื‘ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืืช ืื‘ื ืœื ืœืงื—ื•. ืœืงื—ื• ืื•ืชื, ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื ืœืžื—ื ื” ื”ืกื’ืจ ื•ืืžืจื• ืœื”ื, ืฉื”ื ืจืง ื™ืฆืื• ืžืฉื ืื ื”ื ื™ืขื–ื‘ื• ืžืฉื ืืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืฉืœื—ื• ืžืฉื ื”ื‘ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืืช ื”ืืคืจ ืฉืœ ืžื™ ืฉื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืžืช ืฉื ืื• ืฉื”ืจื’ื• ืื•ืชื•. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ื™ื” ืžืฆื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ื‘ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช, ื›ื™ ื’ื ืื ื–ื” ืคื’ืข ืืฆืœื ื• ื ื’ื™ื“ "ืจืง" ื‘ืžืื” ื•ื—ืžื™ืฉื™ื ืื ืฉื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื›ื•ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื–ื” ืงืจื”, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ืœื™ ืฉื•ื ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ืฉืงืจ, ืืœื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืงื—ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœืจืื•ืช ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื–ื” ืคื•ืขืœ. ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืคืขืœ. ื—ืœืง ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื, ื™ืฆืื• ื“ื™ ืฉื‘ื•ืจื™ื, ื•ืขื–ื‘ื• ืืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ืื—ืจื™ื ื—ื–ืจื• ื›ืืคืจ ืœืžืฉืคื—ื”. ื”ื”ื•ื“ืขื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื”: ื”ื•ื ืžืช ืžืžื—ืœื”! ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืฉืื™ืžื ื ืกืขื”.
ืฉ: ืืช ื”ื›ืจืช ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฉื”ื—ื–ื™ืจื• ืœื”ื ืงื•ืคืกืื•ืช ืขื ืืคืจ?
ืช: ืื ื™ ืžื›ื™ืจื” ืื—ื“ ืฉื—ื–ืจ ื—ื™ ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื”ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœื• ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ื™ืชืจื• ืขืœ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื•ืฆื™ื ืื•ืชื• ืžืžื—ื ื” ื”ื”ืกื’ืจ. ื”ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœืืจืฅ, ื•ื‘ืจื•ืš ื”ืฉื ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื ื“ื‘ื ื™ืช ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ืื—ืจื™ ื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald).
ืฉ: ืืช ืžืกืคืจืช ื’ื ืฉื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ื–ืจื• ื‘ืงื•ืคืกืื•ืช ืืคืจ?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื›ืืœื” ืฉื—ื–ืจื• ื‘ืงื•ืคืกืื•ืช ืืคืจ, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื ื”ืฉืžื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื™ื“ื•ืข, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ืชื”ืœืš ื‘ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื‘ื™ืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ื”ื ื™ืกื™ื•ืŸ ื‘ืงื˜ืŸ ืžื” ืฉื ืขืฉื” ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš. ืœื”ืคืจื™ื“, ืœืจืื•ืช ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื–ื” ืคื•ืขืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ-ืœืืจืฅ. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื•ื™ื–ื•ืช ืœื›ืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื ื ืขืฉื• ื ื“ื™ืจื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ืจื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื•ื•ืขื™ื“ื” ื‘ืžืงื•ื, ืฉืื•ืžืจื•ืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ื• ืœื ืœืชืช...
ืฉ: ืื•ื•ื™ืืŸ.
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืฉืื•ืžื•ืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ื• ืœื ืœืชืช ื•ื™ื–ื•ืช. ื ื“ืžื” ืœื™ ืฉืกื ื˜ื•-ื“ื•ืžื™ื ื’ื• ื”ื™ื• ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื™ื ืฉื ืชื ื•. ืœื›ืŸ ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื•ืฆื™ื ืืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื, ื›ื™ ืœืืŸ ื”ื ื™ื’ื™ืขื•, ืœืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื?
ืฉ: ืžื” ืงื•ืจื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ ืœืื‘ื ืฉืœืš?
ืช: ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื›ืฉืื™ืžื ื ืกืขื”, ืืžืจื ื• ืฉืื ื—ื ื•, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื ื‘ื˜ืœ ืืช ื”ื“ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื ื•, ื ืืจื•ื– ืืช ื”ื—ืคืฆื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืงื—ืช, ื•ื ืฉื™ื ืื•ืชื ื‘ืœื™ืคื˜ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ืžื—ืกืŸ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืืคืฉืจ ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ื–ื” ืœืงื— ืื•ืœื™ ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืื• ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื™ื, ื•ืื ื™ ืืจื–ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ืื‘ื ื”ืคืกื™ืง ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืจืš ืขื“ ืœื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืกืคื˜ืžื‘ืจ. ืื– ืžืŸ ื”ื‘ื—"ื“ ืืžืจื• ืœื™: ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืชื”ื™ื™ ืืช, ื›ืืŸ ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœื–ื” ืงื•ืžื•ื ืจื™ืช ืื—ืจืื™ืช ืœืชื ื•ืขืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื‘ืงืœืŸ (Koeln). ืงืœืŸ (Koeln) ื–ื” ืจื—ื•ืง ืžืื•ื“ ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื–ื” ื ืžืฆื ื‘ืงืฆื” ื”ืฉื ื™. ืงืœืŸ (Koeln) ื–ื” ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื”ืจื™ื™ื ืก ื•ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื–ื” ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื”ืื•ื“ืจ. ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืžื ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื—ื’ื™ื. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืื™ืคื” ืื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ืจื™ ืื ื—ื ื• ื‘ื™ื˜ืœื ื• ืืช ื”ื“ื™ืจื”. ืื– ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืืฆืœ ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืขื•ื“ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉืœื ื•.
ืฉ: ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื™ืชื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื—ื’ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืžืŸ ื”ื—ื’ื™ื, ืฉืื– ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืื—ื“. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื ืคืœื˜ื• ื›ืžื• ืื‘ื ืžื›ืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื•ื‘ืขืฆื, ืžื›ืœ ื”ื›ื ืกื”.
ืฉ: ืžืชื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”?
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘-38' ื‘ืงื™ืฅ, ืฉืื– ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ืœ ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™, ื ื’ื™ื“, ื’ื ืื•ืชื ื”ืชืœืžื™ื“ื™ื ืื• ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื• ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื–ื›ื•ืช ื”ืฉื™ืจื•ืช ื‘ืฆื‘ื, ื›ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ื•ื˜ืœ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื—ื ืง ื ืขืฉื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ื—ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืืฆืœ ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืืจื–ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืื™ืœื• ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื•, ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื‘ืžื—ืกืŸ ืฉืœ ืคื™ืจืžื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืฉื”ื ื”ืขื‘ื™ืจื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœื™ื ื•ื›ื•'. ืœืื—ืจ ื”ื—ื’ื™ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ื ืชื™ื ื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืฉื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืื•ืชื ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœื’ื‘ื•ืœ ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ืฉื™ืŸ. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ, ืฉื‘ืžืงืจื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืขืจื‘ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื’ื ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืœืชื—ื ื•ืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช, ื•ืจืื™ื ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืคื ื™ื, ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช, ืฉืœืงื—ื• ืื•ืชื ืœืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืฉืœื ื™ื“ืขื•, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”. ืืช ื”ืชืžื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืืœื” ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืœื ื’ื“ ืขื™ื ื™.
ืฆื“ ืฉื™ืฉื™:
ื”ืžืื•ืจืขื•ืช ืื• ื”ื—ื•ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืงืฉื•ืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฉืจืื™ืชื™, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื—ื™ื™ืชื™, ืฉืœื ืจืง ื™ื“ืขืชื™, ืืœื ื’ื ืจืื™ืชื™, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืืฉืจ ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื™ื•ื ื™ 38' ืคืฉื•ื˜ื• ืขืœ ื‘ืชื™ื, ื•ืœืงื—ื• ืกืชื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ืœื›ืื•ืจื” ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืคื•ืฉืขื™ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ื—ื™ื• ืขื ืืจื™ื•ืช, ืื• ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืงื•ืžื•ื ื™ืกื˜ื™ื, ืืœื ืกืชื ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืœืงื—ื• ืื•ืชื ืœืžื—ื ื•ืช ื”ืกื’ืจ, ื•ื”ืฉืื™ืจื• ืื•ืชื ืฉื, ืืœื ืื ื›ืŸ ื”ื ื”ื•ื›ื™ื—ื•, ืฉื”ื ื™ืขื–ื‘ื• ืชื•ืš ื–ืžืŸ ืงืฆืจ ืœืืจืฅ ืื—ืจืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื ื”ื•ื›ื™ื—ื• ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื›ืš ืฉื”ื ื”ืจืื• ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื”. ื”ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ื”ืฉื ื™ื™ื” ื”ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื›ืฉืจื•ืื™ื ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื ื’ื“ ื”ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ ืžืืฉืจ ืื ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื•ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืขืœ ื›ืš. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืœื™ืœื” ื›ืืฉืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืœื™ืœื” ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ. ื”ื•ืกืขื• ืจื›ื‘ื•ืช ืžืœืื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฉืœืžื•ืช, ืฉื ืงืจืขื• ืžื‘ื™ืชื, ื”ื•ื‘ืื• ืœื’ื‘ื•ืœ ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื•ืฉื ื”ื•ืจื™ื“ื• ืื•ืชื. ื”ื, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ, ื‘ื—ืœืงื ื”ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื ื•ืœื“ื• ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ืื• ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ื›ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืžืคื•ืœื™ืŸ ืื• ืžืืจืฅ ืื—ืจืช. ื”ื ื”ื•ื‘ืื• ื•ื”ื•ืฆืื• ืฉื ืžื”ืจื›ื‘ืช. ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื™ื“ืขื ื•, ื•ื’ื ื”ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืžื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ืื™ืชื. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืจืื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื”ืกืชื” ื ืžืฉื›ื” ื›ืจื’ื™ืœ ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื—ื’ื™ื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืื ื™, ืื™ืฉื™ืช, ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœืงืœืŸ (Koeln) ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืืช ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืž ื”ื—ื’ื™ื, ื–ืืช ืื•ืžืจืช, ืžื”ื—ื’ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœืš ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืขืกื•ืงื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ื‘ืืžืช ืœืกืคืจ ืžืฉื”ื•, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืื‘ื™ื‘ 38'. ื‘-38' ื ืชื‘ืงืฉืชื™ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื‘ื—"ื“, ืื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื ืชื‘ืงืฉืชื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ืœืžืฉืš ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช ื‘ืžื—ื ื” ืฉื‘ื•ื—ืจ ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืœืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ 38' ื”ื’ื™ืข ืžืกืคืจ ืžืกื•ื™ื ืฉืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ื•ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ืœืขืœื™ื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ื”ืžืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื—ื•ืœืงื•, ื›ืžื• ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ื”ื•ื’, ื—ืœืง ืœื”ื—ืœื•ืฅ ื•ื—ืœืง ืœื‘ื—"ื“. ื”ื™ื” ืฆื•ืจืš ื‘ืžืกืคืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“ ื•ื”ืžืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœ. ืื– ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื™ื ื ื• ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืœื”ื•ืฆื™ื ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ื•ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ืžื‘ื™ืช ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื, ื•ืœืฉืœื•ื— ืื•ืชื ืœืžืงื•ื ืฉื”ื ืœื ืžื›ื™ืจื™ื, ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืืช ื”ืฉืคื”, ื•ื”ื ื™ื”ื™ื• ืจื—ื•ืงื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ืจืฆื• ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื–ื” ื™ืฆืœื™ื—. ืฉื”ื ื’ื ื™ื“ืขื• ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืชื•ืš ืงื‘ื•ืฆื”, ืœืžืจื•ืช, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืขื“ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื’ืจื™ื ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืชื• ื•ื‘ืชื•ืš ืžืฉืคื—ืชื•. ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื›ื™ื ื• ืžื—ื ื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื›ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ืื™ืš ื”ื, ื•ืฉื™ื™ื‘ื—ืจื• ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื ื”ืžืชืื™ืžื™ื, ื›ื™ ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉืื™ืŸ ืžืกืคื™ืง ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉืจื•ืฆื” ืœืขืœื•ืช.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ืืชื ื‘ื•ื—ืจื™ื ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ืขืœ-ืคื™ ืžื”?
ืช: ื›ืืŸ ืื ื™ ืื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืžืจืืฉ, ืฉืžืขื•ืœื ืœื ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ื•ืืฃ ืคืขื ื‘ื›ืœ ื™ืžื™ ื—ื™ื™, ืœื ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืขื™ืงื” ืขืœื™ ื›ืžื• ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ื–ืืช, ื•ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืœื›ื ืื™ืš ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”. ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืื• ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช, ืื• ื”ืงื•ืœื˜ื•ืจ ืคื™ื™ืŸ, ืื• ื”ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื™, ืืจื’ื ื• ืืช ื”ืžื—ื ื”. ื”ืžื—ื ื” ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืชื•ืš ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื™ืคื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืจื›ื•ืฉ ืฉืœ ืงื”ื™ืœืช ื”ืžื‘ื•ืจื’, ืฉื–ื” ืจื—ื•ืง ืžืื•ื“ ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืฉื ืงืจื ื‘ืœื ืงื ื™ื–ื”, ืฉื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืงืจื•ื‘ ืœื”ืžื‘ื•ืจื’, ื›ืžืขื˜ ืขืœ ืฉืคืช ืฉืคืš ื”ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืก ืœื™ื ื”ืฆืคื•ื ื™. ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœืฉื ื•ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืžืœื‘ื“ื™ ืฉื ื™ ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื, ืฉื’ื ื”ื ื”ื™ื• "ื–ืงื ื™ื", ื›ืžื•ื ื™. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืช ืชืฉืข-ืขืฉืจื”, ื•ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืขืฉืจื™ื, ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืื—ื“, ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืžืื•ื“. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื›ืฉื™ืฉื™ื ื‘ื ื™ื ื•ื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉืจืฆื• ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื”ื•ืจื™ื”ื ืจืฆื• ืฉื™ืขืœื•, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืจืงืข ื“ืชื™, ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื ืจืฆื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื“ืชื™. ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ืื™ืชื ื™ื—ื“. ืžื” ืขืฉื™ื ื•? ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืงืฆืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœื”ื, ืฉื”ื ื‘ืขืฆืžื ื›ื™ื‘ืกื•, ื•ื”ื ื‘ืขืฆืžื ื‘ื™ืฉืœื•. ื ื•ืกืฃ ืขืœ ื›ืš, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืคืขื™ืœื•ืช ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉืœ ืœื™ืžื•ื“, ืฉืœ ื˜ื™ื•ืœ ื•ืฉืœ ืกืคื•ืจื˜. ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ื—ื•ื•ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืจืง ืœืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ืฉื—ื™ื™ื ื ื•ืขืจ ื‘ื™ื—ื“, ืฉื”ื ืžืฉืจืชื™ื ืืช ืขืฆืžื, ื•ื—ื™ื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืžืชื•ืš ื–ื” ืื™ืš ืฉื”ื ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื• ื‘ืื•ืชื ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ืื—ื“ ืขื ื”ืฉื ื™. ื”ื ืœื ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ื–ื” ืืช ื–ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื ื™ื™ื, ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ืฉื”ื ื‘ืื• ืžืื•ืชื” ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืžื›ืœ ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื•ืฆืื• ืžื‘ืชื™-ืกืคืจ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ื”ืฉื›ืœื” ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื•ืœื ืœืžื“ื• ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ. ื›ื•ืœื ื‘ืื• ืžื‘ืชื™ื ืžืกื•ื“ืจื™ื, ืฉืกื‘ืœื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืฉืคื—ืชื™ืช ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชื™ื ืžืกื•ื“ืจื™ื. ืจื•ื‘ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื‘ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ืงืฆืช ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื›ื•ืœื. ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ื”ื™ื• ื ื—ืžื“ื™ื, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื ื—ืžื“. ื”ื™ื” ืชืžื™ื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช, ืงืฆืช ื˜ื™ื™ืœื ื•, ืงืฆืช ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืžืงื•ื, ืœืžื“ื ื• ืฉื™ืจื™ื, ืœืžื“ื ื• ืžืฉื”ื•, ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื”ืฆื’ื”, ืขืกืงื ื• ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืžื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ืœืคื™ ืžื™ ืฉื™ื“ืข. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘, ืขื“ ืืฉืจ ื”ื’ื™ืข ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื ื™ ื•ืฉื ื™ ื”ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ื›ืขื™ืŸ ืืคื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ืื—ื“, ื”ืื ืœืคื™ ื“ืขืชื ื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ ืœื—ื•ื“, ื”ืื ื”ื•ื ืžืชืื™ื ืœืขืœื•ืช ืืจืฆื”? ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื—ื™ืจื”, ื‘ืจื™ืจื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื ื•ืจื. ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ื—ื™ื™ื ืื• ืžื•ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ ืื• ืœื ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง. ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืขืชื™ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืื™ืŸ ืœืืŸ ืœืœื›ืช, ื–ื” ื›ืŸ ื™ื“ืขืชื™.
ืฉ: ืื– ืืชื ืœื ืจืฉืžืชื ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืฉื›ื•ืœื ื›ืฉืจื™ื ืœืขืœื™ื”?
ืช: ืื‘ืœ ืžืฆื“ ืื—ืจ, ื™ื“ืขื ื•, ืฉืื ื™ืฉ ื™ืœื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืื•ื“ ืœื ื‘ืฉืœ, ืฉืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ืœื•, ื•ื”ื•ื ื‘ื•ื›ื”, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉื ื›ืืœื” ืฉื‘ื›ื•, ืื‘ืœ ืžืื•ื“ ืœื ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ, ืื• ืžืชื ื”ื’ ืžืื•ื“ ืœื ื™ืคื”, ืื• ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ืื• ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ืœื’ืžืจื™ ื‘ืกื“ืจ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืจื•ื—ื ื™ืช, ื’ื ื–ื” ืœื ืงืฉื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืื ื”ื•ื ื™ืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ื”ื–ื”, ืื– ืื—ืจ ืฉื›ืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขืœื•ืช, ื•ื”ื•ื ื›ืŸ ืžืชืื™ื, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืงื‘ืœ. ื–ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื—ื™ืจื” ืฉื›ื•ืœื ืขื•ืœื™ื, ื•ื™ืฉ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื ื ื•ืกืคื™ื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื“ืขืช ืฉืงืฉื” ืœื”ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ืืŸ ืœื‘ื“ื, ื•ื–ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืฆืœื™ื— ืœื”ื, ื•ื’ื ืœื ืฆืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื›ื•ื ื”. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”. ืื ื™ ืื’ื™ื“ ืœืš ืžืฉื”ื•, ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื—ืฆื™ ื—ื•ืœื” ืžื–ื”, ืชืืžื™ื ื™ ืœื™. ืื™ืœื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื– ืฉื–ื” ื—ื™ื™ื ืื• ืžื•ื•ืช, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจืช: ื›ื•ืœื! ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ื—ื™ื™ื ืื• ืžื•ื•ืช, ืืœื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืชืื™ื ืื• ืœื ืžืชืื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืœื‘ื“ื. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜. ืื ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื•ื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช, ืžื” ื”ื™ื• ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉื ืคืจื“ื• ืžื›ืœ ืขื‘ืจื, ืžื”ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ืžืื‘, ืžืื ื•ืžืื—ื™ื, ื•ื”ื ื ืกืขื• ืœืืจืฅ ืฉื”ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืืช ื”ืฉืคื”. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื›ืืŸ ืงืฉื”, ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืฉืœื ื›ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื—ื‘ืจื™ื, ื•ื›ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ืœื™ ืคืกื™ื›ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื, ื‘ืœื™, ื‘ืœื™.... . ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืคืจืฆื” ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžื ื•ืชืงื™ื, ื•ื”ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืžื” ืงื•ืจื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื™ืฆืื• ืื ืฉื™ื ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™ื™ื ืงื•ื ืกื˜ืจื•ืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ื™ื. ืขื“ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช, ืื ื™ ืœื ืžื–ืœื–ืœืช ื‘ืคืกื™ื›ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืขื•ืกืงื™ื ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืื ื™ืœื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ืžืชืื™ื ืœื’ื ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืื• ืœืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืื™ืš ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืขืžื“ื•, ื•ื”ื ืขืฉื• ืœืžืขืฉื” ื”ืจื‘ื”, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœืžืขืŸ ืงืœื™ื˜ืชื ื‘ืืจืฅ, ื”ืืจืฅ ืขืฉืชื” ืœืžืขืŸ ืงืœื™ื˜ืชื, ื•ื”ื ื ืชื ื• ืคื™ ื›ืžื”. ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืฉื•ื ืกืคืง, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืกื•ื“ ืฉืœ ื”ืงื™ื‘ื•ืฆื™ื ื•ื”ืžื•ืฉื‘ื•ืช, ืื•ืžื ื, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื•ืœื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื•ืœื ืžืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ืฉื”ื ื’ื“ืœื• ื•ื”ืชื—ื–ืงื• ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื”, ื–ื” ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืฉื•ื ืกืคืง, ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื‘ืœืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœื”.
ืฉ: ื”ืื ืœื ืงืจื” ืœืš ืฉื”ื•ืจื™ื ื”ืชื—ื ื ื• ืœืคื ื™ืš ืœืงื—ืช ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ ืฉืœื”ื?
ืช: ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืืฃ ื”ื•ืจื”, ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื. ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ืžื” ืฉื›ืชื‘ืชื™. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืคื’ืฉืชื™ ื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ืืŸ, ืืœื” ืฉื‘ืื• ืœื›ืืŸ, ื•ื”ื ื‘ืืžืช ื ืงืœื˜ื• ื ื”ื“ืจ. ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ืื•ืชื. ืขืœ-ื›ืŸ ื”ื—ืœืง ืฉืœ ื”ืงื™ื‘ื•ืฆื™ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ื”ื™ื• ืงืฆืช ื‘ืžื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ื•ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ืžื•ืกื“ื•ืช, ื›ืžื•, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื‘ื™ืช ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืช ืžื–ืจื—ื™, ืฉืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื›ืืŸ ืกืชื ื‘ื ื•ืช, ื•ื”ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืจืง ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื‘ื ื•ืช ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื”ื–ื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ืืคื™ืœื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื™ืช ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืช ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘. ื™ื™ืกื“ื• ื›ืคืจ ื ื•ืขืจ ื“ืชื™ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื›ืคืจ ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ื, ื•ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ื ื›ืคืจื™ ื ื•ืขืจ ืื—ืจื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœืžืฆื•ื ืžืงื•ื ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื. ืžืงื•ื•ื” ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืฉืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืกืชื ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื—ืงืœืื™ ืฉืœ ืžื™ ืฉืจืฆื” ืœืœืžื•ื“, ืื– ื”ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ื’ื ื›ืœืœื™ ื•ื’ื ื“ืชื™ ืขื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื™ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ืœืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœ ืื™ืš ืฉื”ื ื ืงืœื˜ื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืื•ืชื• ืžื—ื ื” ื‘ื‘ืœื ืงื ื™ื–ื”, ื–ื” ืื—ื“ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืงืฉื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœื—ื‘ืจื™ื™. ืื ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื—ื•ืจื”, ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืคืฉืจื™, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืžื” ืฉืขืฉื™ื ื•. ื ื—ื–ื•ืจ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืœืงืœืŸ ืฉื ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืชื ื•ืขืช ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื ืขืฉืจื” ื™ืžื™ื, ืฉื ื™ื™ื-ืขืฉืจ ื™ืžื™ื ื•ืื•ืœื™ ืฉื‘ื•ืขื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ื™ ืื– ื”ื™ื” ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜.
ืฉ: ื•ืืช ืจื•ืื” ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ ื ืื›ื˜?
ืช: ืื ื™ ื’ืจืชื™ ืฉื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืืฆืœ ืื™ืฉื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื” ื‘ื•ื“ื“ื”, ื•ืืœื™ื” ืœื ื‘ืื• ื‘ืœื™ืœื”, ืื– ืจืง ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืื ื™ ืฉืžืขืชื™, ื•ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื” ืงืจื”, ื‘ืœื™ืœื” ืœื ืฉืžืขืชื™.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืจืื™ืช?
ืช: ืื– ื™ืฆืืชื™, ื•ืื– ืจืื™ืชื™.
ืฉ: ื–ื” ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืงืœืŸ (Koeln)?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืงืœืŸ (Koeln). ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืœืžืขืœื” ืžืขืฉืจืช ืืœืคื™ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ืื ื™ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช, ื•ืจืื™ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ืกื˜ืœ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืืช ื”ื–ื›ื•ื›ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื—ืœื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืจืื•ื•ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืžืงื•ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช, ื•ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื”ื™ื” ื—ืจื‘. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื˜ืขื™ืชื™, ืชื”ื™ืชื™, ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืžืฉ ื›ืžื• ืœืฉืชื•ืช ืืช ื›ื•ืก ื”ืชืจืขืœื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“.
ืฉ: ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื ืฉืจืฃ?
ืช: ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืžืฉืจื“ ืฉืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื”, ื•ืฉื ืจืื™ืชื™ ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉื”ื ื™ืฉื‘ื• ืฉื ื‘ืฆื“, ื•ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื ืืฆื™ื ืฉืฉืžืจื• ืขืœื™ื”ื ืฉืœื ื™ื‘ืจื—ื•, ื›ื™ ืื•ืชื ืœืงื—ื•. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื‘ืœื™ืœื” ืœืงื—ื• ืื ืฉื™ื, ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืœืืŸ, ืื ืฉื™ื ื ืขืœืžื•, ื•ืœืงื—ื• ืžื”ื‘ืชื™ื ื›ืืŸ ืืช ื”ืื‘ื, ื›ืืŸ ืืช ื”ื“ื•ื“, ื›ืืŸ ืืช ื”ืกื‘ื ื•ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ืฉื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”.
ืฉ: ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื›ื ืกืช ื—ืจื‘ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ?
ืช: ืฉืจืคื• ืื•ืชื• ื•ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื‘ืชื™-ื›ื ืกืช ืงื˜ื ื™ื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืื ื™ ื‘ืืชื™ ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืื– ืื ื™ ื’ื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืืŸ, ื•ืจืื™ืชื™ ื’ื ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื—ื•ืจื‘ืŸ, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืจื‘ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ืื– ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ื”ื•ื“ืขื” ืžืงืจื•ื‘ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืื‘ื, ื•ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืœื™ ื‘ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื—ืกื•ื™ื” ื›ื–ืืช: ื’ื ืื‘ื ืฉืœืš ื ืกืข! ืื– ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืฉื’ื ื”ื•ื ื‘ืžื—ื ื” ื”ืกื’ืจ, ื›ื™ ืœืงื—ื• ืฉื ื‘ืงืœืŸ (Koeln) ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืฉืžืขื ื• ืฉืขืฉื• ืืช ื–ื” ื’ื ื‘ื›ืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ืฉืžืขื ื• ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ืจืกื• ืืช ื‘ืชื™-ื”ื›ื ืกืช. ืœืื˜, ืœืื˜ ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื“ื™ืขื•ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืืคื™ืœื• ืžื”ืจ. ืื– ื”ื—ืœื˜ืชื™ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืงืœืŸ (Koeln), ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉืื‘ื ื™ื•ืฆื, ื•ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืื ืื ื™ ืื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืงื•ื. ืื– ืขื–ื‘ืชื™, ื•ื ืกืขืชื™ ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื“ืจืš ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ื‘ื›ืœืœ. ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืฉื ื”ืคืกืงื”, ืฉืœื—ืชื™ ืžืฉื ื˜ืœื’ืจืžื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืฉื’ื ืื‘ื ื ืกืข, ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ื“ืจืš ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื•ื›ื•'. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื ืฉืืจื• ืชืžื•ื ื•ืช. ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช ืžืงืœืŸ (Koeln) ืœื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืฆืข ื ื•ื‘ืžื‘ืจ, ื‘ืื—ืช ื”ืชื—ื ื•ืช ื ื›ื ืก ืื“ื, ื•ืจืื™ืชื™ ืžื™ื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื‘ื—ื•ืจืฃ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื—ื•ืจืฃ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืœื‘ื•ืฉ ืจืง ื‘ื—ืœื™ืคื” ืฉืœื•, ื‘ืœื™ ืžืขื™ืœ, ื‘ืœื™ ืฉื•ื ื—ืคืฆื™ื, ื ื›ื ืก, ื”ืชื™ื™ืฉื‘ ื‘ืคื™ื ื” ืขืœ ืกืคืกืœ, ื•ื”ืชื—ื‘ื ื›ื›ื” ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืจืื” ื”ืจื‘ื”. ืจืื™ืชื™, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ืจืื” ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื™ ื›ืžื• ื—ื™ื” ื ืจื“ืคืช, ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืชืžื•ื ื” ืฉืจืื™ืชื™. ืื ื™ ื™ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืžืžื•ืœื•, ื”ื™ื” ืืฆืœื™ ืชื "ืš, ืื– ืคืชื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืชื "ืš ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืจืื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืชืช ื‘ื™ ืืžื•ืŸ. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืฉืืœืชื™ ืื•ืชื•: ืืชื” ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืื›ื•ืœ? ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ืกื ื“ื•ื•ื™ืฆ'ื™ื. ื”ื•ื ืจืง ืคื—ื“, ื•ื‘ืชื—ื ื” ื”ื‘ืื” ื”ื•ื ืงื ื•ื™ืฆื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ืฉืœ ื ืจื“ืฃ, ื•ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื”ืชืžื•ื ื”, ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ื–ื” ืขื•ื“ ื”ื™ื•ื. ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื•ืœื ื›ืœื•ื, ื”ื•ื ืขื ื” ืœื™ ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื‘ืžื™ืœื™ื, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ืงืจื•ืŸ. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืœื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau).
ืฉ: ืžื” ืืช ืจื•ืื” ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ?
ืช: ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื–ืžืŸ, ืจืง ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ืงืœืŸ (Koeln). ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื•ื“ืื™ ื’ื ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ื™ื ื™ื™ื ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื” ืฉืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืื– ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ. ืื ื™ ืจืง ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื’ื ื›ืืŸ ื”ื›ืœ ื—ืจื‘, ื•ื›ื•ืœื ืœืงื—ื•. ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืฉืžืขืชื™, ื™ื“ืขืชื™, ื•ื–ื” ืื•ืฉืจ ืœื™, ื•ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื‘ืืชื™ ืืœ ื”ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ื•ื’ื ื‘ืขืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ืื™ืฉื” ื•ื’ื ืื‘ื ื ืœื›ื“ื•. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืื– ืฉื”ื ื ืฉืœื—ื• ืœื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald) ืื• ืœืื•ืจื ื™ื™ื ื‘ื•ืจื’ ืื• ืœื–ื›ืกื ื”ืื•ื–ืŸ (Sachsenhausen), ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื”ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืฉืฉืœื—ื• ืœืฉื ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืื ื™ ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืจืง ืžื”ืจ ืœื”ื•ืฆื™ื ืืช ืื‘ื ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ื–ื›ืจืชื™ ื’ื ืืช ืืœื” ืฉื—ื–ืจื• ื‘ืืคืจ. ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืžื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ืฉื˜ืœื’ืจืคืชื™ ืฉื™ื“ืขื•. ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ ืื™ืžื™ ื•ื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื™ ืขืฉื• ืืช ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืื‘ื ื™ืงื‘ืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ื›ื™ ื™ื“ืขื• ืฉื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืฆื™ืœ ืื•ืชื•. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ื” ื‘ืจืฉื™ืžื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืจืฆื• ืฉื™ื™ืงื—ื• ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืืช ืืœื” ืฉื”ื ื‘ืกื›ื ื” ืžื™ื™ื“ื™ืช. ื–ื” ืœืงื— ื–ืžืŸ ืžืกื•ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ื”ื™ื“ื™ืขื” ื‘ื˜ืœื’ืจืžื” ืฉืœืื‘ื ื™ืฉ ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜. ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื›ืžื” ื™ืžื™ื ื–ื” ืœืงื—, ื•ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ื™ื. ืขืžื“ื• ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื‘ืชื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื‘ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช ื•ื›ื•'. ืžื” ืฉืขืฉื”, ื›ื ืจืื”, ืจื•ืฉื ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืฉืื‘ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืงืจื•ื‘ ืœื’ื™ืœ ืฉื™ืฉื™ื. ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืฉื ื™, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืกื›ื ื” ืžื™ื™ื“ื™ืช ืœื—ื™ื™ื•, ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืจืฉื ืœืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื ื™ื, ื•ื–ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ ื‘ืฉื ืช 1902 ืื• 1903 ื›ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜. ื›ืœ ื–ื” ื™ื—ื“ ืขืฉื” ืจื•ืฉื, ื•ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜. ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ื“ื™ ืืœื ืจืง ื”ื˜ืœื’ืจืžื”, ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืืžื™ืŸ ืื• ืœื ืœื”ืืžื™ืŸ, ื–ื” ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช, ื•ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืขื ื–ื” ืœื’ืกื˜ืืคื•. ื›ืืŸ ืžืชื—ื™ืœ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื’ืกื˜ืืคื•, ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื•ืืœื™ื ืื•ืชื™: ืืช ืœื ืคื—ื“ืช? ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช: ืื ื™ ืœื ืคื—ื“ืชื™. ืœืžื”? ื›ื™ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ืžืฉื”ื•, ื•ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืžื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช. ืื ื™ ื‘ืืชื™ ืœืฉื, ื•ืืžืจืชื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขื ื”ื’ืกื˜ืืคื•. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื”: ื‘ืืชื™ ืœื’ืกื˜ืืคื•, ืฉืืœื• ืื•ืชื™: ืžื” ื™ืฉ? ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื™ื“ืขืชื™, ืฉืื‘ื™ ื ืžืฆื ื‘ื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald), ื›ื™ ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืžืžื ื• ื’ืœื•ื™ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืžื•ื›ืชื‘ืช, ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ื‘ื”: ืฉืœื•ืžื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื•ืœื”ืชืจืื•ืช ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื’ื•ืŸ ื–ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืื™ืคื” ื”ื•ื. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื’ืกื˜ืืคื•, ื•ื”ื ืืฆื™ ืฉืืœ ืื•ืชื™: ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืžื”? ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•, ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื• ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืงื‘ืœ ื•ื™ื–ื”, ื›ื™ ื™ืฉ ืœื• ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜. ืจืฉืžื• ืืช ื”ืฉื ืฉืœื• ื•ื›ื•' ื•ืืžืจื•: ื ื˜ืคืœ ื‘ื“ื‘ืจ.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื” ื”ื™ื—ืก ืฉืœื”ื?
ืช: ื”ื™ื—ืก ืฉืœื”ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ืก, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ืœื ื”ื›ื• ืื•ืชื™, ื•ืœื ื™ืจืงื• ืขืœื™, ืืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืืช ื”ื”ื•ื“ืขื” ื•ืจืฉืžื•, ื›ืžื• ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืืžื•ืจ ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ืื– ื”ืœื›ืชื™, ื•ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื” ื™ื”ื™ื”, ืืœื ื–ื” ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ืขื‘ืจ ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš ื–ืžืŸ, ื•ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืคืขื ืœืฉืื•ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉื›ื—ืชื™, ืื– ืื™ื ื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“. ื™ื•ื ื‘ื”ื™ืจ ืื—ื“, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช ื•ื™ื•ืžื™ื™ื ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ืื‘ื ื‘ื ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื’ืจื•ืข. ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ื‘ืจื’ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ื‘ืžื“ืจื’ื•ืช ื‘ืงื•ืฉื™. ื”ื•ื ืœื ืขื•ื ื” ืื™ืฉื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ืจืื” ืจืข, ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘, ื›ื™ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืชืงื™ืŸ ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ. ื”ื•ื ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจ, ื’ื ืœื ื”ืชืœื•ื ืŸ, ื’ื ืœื ื‘ื›ื” ื•ืœื ื›ืœื•ื. ืคืขื ื”ื•ื ืจืง ืืžืจ ืœื™ ืœืžืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”: ืื ื™ ื”ืฉืชื“ืœืชื™ ืฉื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื, ืœื ืœื‘ืœื•ื˜ ื‘ืฉื•ื ืžืงื•ื, ื›ื™ ืžื™ ืฉื‘ืœื˜ ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืกืชื ืžื›ื•ืช. ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื™, ืฉืื ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืชืคื•ืก ืื™ื–ื• ืคื™ื ื” ืฉืงื˜ื”, ืื ื™ ื”ืชื™ื™ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื, ื•ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื. ืœืžืฉืœ, ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืขืœื™ื›ื ื•ืขืœ ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ื”ื•ื ื•ื“ืื™ ื”ืชืคืœืœ. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืืช ื–ื”: ื–ื” ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืกื™ื— ืืช ื“ืขืชื™. ืื‘ืœ ื›ื›ื” ื”ื•ื ืœื ืกื™ืคืจ. ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืืžืจ: ืจืื™ืชื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืงืฉื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืืžืจ ืžื”. ื›ื™ ื’ื ืชืœื• ืฉื ืื ืฉื™ื ืขื ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื™ื ืœืžืขืœื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคื—ื™ื“.
ืฉ: ื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ื’ื ืกื‘ืชื ืฉื ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau)?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื’ื ืกื‘ืชื ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau).
ืฉ: ืžื” ืงื•ืจื” ืœืกื‘ืชื?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ื”ืกื‘ืชื ืœื ื’ืจื” ืื™ืชื ื•, ืืœื ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืื‘ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™. ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืขื ื›ืžื” ื‘ื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืคื ื™ืžื™ื™ื, ืขื ื’ื™ื ื” ื•ื›ื•'.
ืฉ: ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau)?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืื– ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืงื‘ืขื• ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ืื—ื“ ืœื‘ื™ืช-ืื‘ื•ืช ื•ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ืื•ืชื” ื”ืื™ืฉื” ืฉืœืžืขืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื›ืžื• ืื•ืžื ืช ื‘ื™ืช, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื– ื’ื ื‘ืช ืฉืžื•ื ื™ื, ืื• ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื‘ืช ืฉืžื•ื ื™ื ืืœื ืกืžื•ืš ืœืฉืžื•ื ื™ื. ื’ื ืกื‘ืชื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื– ืกืžื•ื›ื” ืœืฉืžื•ื ื™ื ืื• ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘ืช ืฉืžื•ื ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื•ืจืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ืกื‘ืชื?
ืช: ื”ื™ื ืœืžื–ืœื” ืžืชื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืžื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืื‘ื•ืช, ืืช ื–ื” ืื ื—ื ื• ืฉืžืขื ื• ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš. ื•ื”ืื•ืžื ืช ืฉืœื”, ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงืฉื•ืจื” ืืœื™ื” ื›ืžื• ืืœ ืกื‘ืชื, ื•ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื’ื™ื“ืœื” ืืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื” ืฉืฉื ืžืฉืคื—ืชื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื–ืก. ื”ื™ื ื’ื™ื“ืœื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืืช ืื™ืžื ื•ืืช ื”ืื—ื™ื ืฉืœื”, ืื– ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืžื• ื‘ืช ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ื•ืื•ืชื” ืจืฆื—ื• ื‘ืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ื ื—ื–ืจ, ื•ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืจืง ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืฆื ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืจ, ื›ื™ ืžื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื™ื•ื ื‘ื”ื™ืจ ืื—ื“ ืฉื•ื‘ ื™ืขืœื” ืขืœ ื“ืขืชื ืœืงื—ืช ืื•ืชื•. ืื– ื˜ื™ืคืœืชื™ ื‘ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืฉืœ ืื‘ื, ื›ื™ ืœื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืืœื ืื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื•ื™ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื ื”ืจืื• ืฉื”ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืฆืืช. ืื ื™ ืืžืจืชื™ ืœืื‘ื, ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืœืš ืœืจื—ื•ื‘. ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื ืจืื™ืช ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”, ื•ืื ื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ืขืœ ื”ืื•ืคื ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื™.
ืฉ: ืœื ืคื—ื“ืช ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ืกืฃ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”.
ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกื•ืฃ 38'. ืื ื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžื›ืก, ื•ืœืžืฉืœ, ืฉื ื”ืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื“ื™ื‘ื™ื, ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื™ื. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืื•ืชื ืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ืžืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ืฉืœื ื›ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื•ืœื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืขืฉื• ืืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื.
ืฉ: ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืืช, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืงื ื•ืช ืžืฆืจื›ื™ ืžื–ื•ืŸ, ืžื” ืืช ืขื•ืฉื”?
ืช: ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืงื ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ื‘ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืจื’ื™ืœื•ืช ืฉืงื ื™ืชื ื‘ื”ืŸ ืžื™ืžื™ื ื™ืžื™ืžื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื›ืŸ, ืงื ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืื•ืชืŸ ื”ื—ื ื•ื™ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ื•ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืื•ืชื• ื™ื—ืก?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืœื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืžื›ื™ื ืฉื ืื ืฉื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื›ืœืœื™, ืื ื™ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ื•ื—ื™ื™ืชื™, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื—ื™ื™ืชื™, ื•ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืฆืืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœืกืคืง ืืช ื”ืฆืจื›ื™ื. ื›ืžื• ืฉืืžืจืชื™, ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื’ื ืœืžืฉืจื“ื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœืกื“ืจ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ืื‘ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืฆื ืžื”ื‘ื™ืช. ื”ื•ื ื’ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื‘ืœ, ื’ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืฆื, ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืฆื, ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ืฆื. ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืื– ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ืจืง ื™ืฆื ืžื”ืจ ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืฉืœื• ื•ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื”. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ื ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ, ื›ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืคืขื ื‘ื“ื•ืืจ ืžื›ืชื‘ ืขื‘ื” ืžืŸ ื”ืฉื’ืจื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื•ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ื”ืคืจืžื™ื˜ ืฉืœื™, ืฉืขืœ-ืคื™ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื”, ื•ืื– ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื ืกื•ืข, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืจืง ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืฉืื‘ื ื™ืฆื ืžื”ืจ, ืœื ื˜ื™ืคืœืชื™ ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœื™ ื‘ื›ืœืœ, ืฉืžืชื™ ืืช ื”ืžื›ืชื‘ ื‘ืžื’ื™ืจื”, ื•ืื ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืจืง ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืฉืื‘ื ื™ืฆื. ืื– ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื™ื ื•ืืจ, ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืขื‘ืจื• ื›ืžื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช, ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืœืื‘ื ืืช ื”ื›ืœ, ื’ื ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜, ื’ื ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื” ื•ื’ื ื›ืจื˜ื™ืก ื ืกื™ืขื” ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื”. ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœื ืกื•ืข ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ื›ืจื˜ื™ืก ื ืกื™ืขื”, ืืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืจืง ืœืงื ื•ืช ืื•ืชื•. ื”ื‘ืืชื™ ืืช ืื‘ื ืœืชื—ื ืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช, ื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ืจืš ืื•ืชื™, ื•ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข. ืื ื™ ื’ืจืชื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืืฆืœ ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ืฉืฉืœื•ืžื ื•ืžืฆื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื˜ื•ื‘. ื”ื ื™ืฆืื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื ื•ื‘ืžื‘ืจ ื‘ืฉื ืช 39', ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื›ืฉื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืœื—ืžื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื—ื•ื“. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืื– ืื ื™ ื’ืจืชื™ ืื™ืชื, ื•ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืื‘ื ื ืกืข ืื– ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืžื” ืื ื™ ืืขืฉื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืขื ื”ืคืจืžื™ื˜ ืฉืœื™. ืื ื™ ืœื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื ืกื•ืข ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”.
ืฉ: ืžื“ื•ืข?
ืช: ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ื•ื’ื ืžืฉืคื—ืชื™ ื›ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ.
ืฉ: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืืช, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื™ื“ืขืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ืฆ'ืื ืก ืฉืœืš?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื ืกื•ืข ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืื™ืš ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”? ื–ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืขื•ืฉื” ืจืง ืื“ื ืฆืขื™ืจ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื• ืจืขื™ื•ื ื•ืช ืงืฆืช ืคืจื•ืขื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื”ื ืขื•ื–ืจื™ื. ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื“ืื’ืชื™ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜, ื•ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืื•ืชื•, ืขืœ-ืคื™ ื–ื” ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื›ืœ ืœืฆืืช ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”. ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืขื G, ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ืฉื ืฉืจื” ื—ื ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืชื•ืกืคืช ื™ื•ืงืจ. ืื– ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืฉืœื•ื— ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืœืฉื’ืจื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื›ื“ื™ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื”, ืœืงื ื•ืช ื›ืจื˜ื™ืก, ื•ืœื ืกื•ืข ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื—ืœื˜ืชื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ืืขืฉื” ืืช ื–ื”, ืืœื ืื ื™ ืืกืข ืœื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ.
ืฉ: ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืช ื‘ืืžืช ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช, ืฉืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื ื” ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืฆืืช ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”...?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื ืกื•ืข ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืื– ืื ื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ื•ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืœื›ืช ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืคืจืžื™ื˜, ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื” ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื•ืœื ื“ืจืš ื”ื“ื•ืืจ, ืžื” ืฉื›ืŸ ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™. ื‘ืืชื™ ืœืฉื ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืžื•ืงื“ื ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžืจืื” ืงืฉื”. ื”ืฉื’ืจื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื˜ื™ืจื’ืจื˜ืŸ, ืฉื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืžืจื›ื–ื™ ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื” ื›ืžื• ืคืืจืง, ื•ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ื•ื•ื™ืœื•ืช ืฉื‘ืจื•ื‘ืŸ ืื• ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ื™ื•...
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื• ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื?
ืช: ืœื ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ืืœื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื“ื™ืคืœื•ืžื˜ื™ื ืžื›ืœ ื”ืืจืฆื•ืช. ื”ื™ื” ืชื•ืจ ืขืฆื•ื ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืฉื’ืจื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืฉืขืจ ื”ื™ื” ืกื’ื•ืจ. ื‘ืฉืขืจ ืขืžื“, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื•ื˜ืจ ื’ืจืžื ื™, ืื• ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืงื™ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™, ืฉื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื‘ื: ืชืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ืชื•ืจ, ื›ื™ ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืคื•ืชื—ื™ื. ืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ื”ื•ืจืื” ืœืคืชื•ื— ืจืง ืœืžื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื• ืžื›ืชื‘ ืžืŸ ื”ืฉื’ืจื™ืจื•ืช. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื• ืœืขืžื•ื“. ืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืžื›ืชื‘ ืžื”ืฉื’ืจื™ืจื•ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืคืจืžื™ื˜, ื”ืจื™ ื”ื ืฉืœื—ื• ืœื™ ืื•ืชื•. ื”ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืžื›ืชื‘, ืื– ืคืชื—ื• ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืฉืขืจ ื•ื ื›ื ืกืชื™. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืฉื, ื•ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืžืงื•ื ืฉืฉื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”. ืขืžื“ืชื™ ืฉื, ื”ืจืื™ืชื™ ืœื”ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ื”ืคืจืžื™ื˜, ื”ื ื” ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜, ื•ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืฉื. ืื‘ืœ, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืœื ืขื–ื‘ืชื™, ืืœื ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืฆืขื“ ืฉืœ ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื™. ืขืœื™ืชื™ ื‘ืžื“ืจื’ื•ืช ืงื•ืžื” ืœืžืขืœื”, ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืžืฉืจื“ื™ื ืฉืœ ืžื•ืฉื‘ื•ืช ื”ืžื ื“ื˜. ืฉื ืขืœ ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ืคืœืฉืชื™ืŸ, ื•ื ื›ื ืกืชื™ ืœืฉื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืงื•ื ื‘ื•ื“ื“, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื™ื—ื™ื“ื”, ื‘ืืชื™ ืœืฉื ื™ื—ื™ื“ื” ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืื™ื–ื” ืคืงื™ื“ ื–ื•ื˜ืจ ืื ื’ืœื™. ื”ื•ื ื“ื™ื‘ืจ ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ืฉื ื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื–ืžืŸ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืฉืืœ ืื•ืชื™: ื’ื‘ืจืช ืžื” ืืช ืžื‘ืงืฉืช? ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ืื ื™ ืžื‘ืงืฉืช ืœืงื‘ืœ ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ื”ื•ื ืฉืืœ ืื•ืชื™: ื™ืฉ ืœืš ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜? ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ืœื, ืื™ืŸ ืœื™. ื”ื•ื ืฉืืœ ืื•ืชื™: ืื– ืื™ืš ืืช ืชืงื‘ืœื™? ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”, ื”ื ื” ื”ื•ื. ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื›ืžืขื˜ ืจื˜ื•ื‘. ืื– ื”ืจืื™ืชื™ ืœื• ืืช ื–ื”. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื™: ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืชืช ืœืš. ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื‘ืงืจ ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื‘ืคืœืฉืชื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ ื•ืืช ืื—ื™ื™. ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ืœื›ืš ื”ื•ื›ื—ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืืžืช. ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื” ื”ื–ืืช, ื•ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื‘ืงืจ ืื•ืชื ื‘ืคืœืฉืชื™ืŸ ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืืกืข ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืฉื, ื›ื™ ื”ืจื™ ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืฉื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื™: ืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื•ื™ื–ื•ืช ืœืชื™ื™ืจื•ืช, ื›ื‘ืจ ืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ืžื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื™ื•ื ื™, ืžืื– ืฉื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ื”ืจื“ื™ืคื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ืื™ืŸ ื›ื‘ืจ, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื ื•ืชื ื™ื. ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ืื‘ืœ ื”ืžืงืจื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื•ื ืฉื•ื ื”, ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื‘ืงืจ ืืฆืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ื•ืœื™ ื™ืฉ ื•ื™ื–ื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื™: ืื– ืชื™ืกืขื™ ืžืื ื’ืœื™ื” ืœื‘ืงืจ ืืฆืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื. ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื•: ืฉื ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื›ื™ ืœืฉื ื›ืš ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื”. ื‘ื ื•ืกืฃ ืขืœ ื›ืš, ืฉื ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ื›ืกืฃ, ื•ื›ืืŸ ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืฉืœื ืืช ื”ื ืกื™ืขื”. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื™: ื—ื›ื™ ืจื’ืข. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš, ื•ืื ื™ ื™ืฉื‘ืชื™. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš, ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืš ื•ื›ืš ื–ืžืŸ, ืฉืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ื–ื” ืœืงื— ืขืฉืจ ื“ืงื•ืช ืื• ื›ืžื”, ื”ื•ื ื—ื–ืจ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื™: ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื”. ื”ื•ื ื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ื•ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืฉื ื•ื™ื–ื” ื›ืชื™ื™ืจืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ืื– ืื ื™ ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื ืžืฆื ืฉื ื‘ืคื ื™ื ื”ืžืžื•ื ื” ืขืœ ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื•ืช, ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื” ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื”ื•ืจืื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื™ื™ื. ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ื ืจืื”, ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื” ืฉืžื•, ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ืฉืจืช, ื˜ืœื’ืจืคืชื™ ืœืืจืฅ ืฉืื ื™ ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™. ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ื“ ืงื™ื™ืžืช ืœืžื–ื›ื™ืจื•ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื›ืื™ืœื• ืžื›ืจื• ืืช ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ื”ื ืกื™ืขื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืื– ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืจ ืœืงื ื•ืช ื›ืจื˜ื™ืก. ืงื ื™ืชื™ ืžืงื•ื ื˜ืจื™ืืกื˜ื”-ืคืœืฉืชื™ืŸ, ื•ื›ืš ืขืœื™ืชื™ ืืจืฆื”. ืขื“ ืœืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืชืฉืขื™ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื™ ื–ื” ืฉื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื” ื”ื–ืืช, ืจืง ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืืกื•ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืฉื—ื™ืœ ื“ืจืš ืื™ื–ื” ื—ื•ืจ ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื’ื ืฉืงืจ, ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื‘ืงืจ ืฉื, ืฉื–ื” ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืืžืช, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื• ืขื•ื“ ืื™ื–ื” ืžืงืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื™, ื•ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื”. ืขื“ ืฉื‘ืฉื ืช 39' ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘"ื”ืืจืฅ" ื›ืชื‘ื” ืฉืื“ื•ืŸ ืคืจื ืกื™ืก ืคื•ืœื™ (Frncis Foley) ื”ื•ื›ืจ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื™ื“-ื•ืฉื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื—ืกื™ื“ ืื•ืžื•ืช ื”ืขื•ืœื, ื•ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืชืช ืœื• ื”ื•ืงืจื”. ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื—ื™ ืžืกื•ืฃ ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ื—ืžื™ืฉื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ืฆื™ืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื•ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื›ืชื‘ ืขืœื™ื• ืกืคืจ ื•ื›ื•' ื•ื›ื•'.
ืฆื“ ืฉื‘ื™ืขื™:
ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ื™ื“ื™ ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืขื ื•ื™ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืชื™ื™ืจืช ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื•ื’ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืจื˜ื™ืก ืœื ืกื™ืขื” ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื” ืžื˜ืจื™ืืกื˜ื” ืœืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื” ื•ืฉืžื” 'ื™ืฉืจืืœ'. ื ืกืขืชื™ ื‘ืืžืฆืข ืžืจืฅ 1939 ื“ืจืš ื•ื•ื™ื ื” (Wien). ื‘ื•ื•ื™ื ื” (Wien) ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื”ืคืกืงื” ืฉืœ ืฉื ื™ื™ื ืื• ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื™ืžื™ื, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ืฉื ืขื•ื“ ืฉืชื™ ื“ื•ื“ื•ืช, ืฉืชื™ ืื—ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื‘ื™ ื”ืžื ื•ื—, ื•ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœื”ืŸ ืฉืœื•ื. ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ื˜ืขื ื”ืžืจ ื•ื”ืงืฉื” ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื˜ืขืžืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉืฉ ืฉื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœืคืจื™ื“ื” ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ื”, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘ื™ื•ื ื”ืฉื ื” ืœืื ืฉืœื•ืก, ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ืœืงื—ื• ืœืขืฆืžื ืืช ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ื”. ื”ืขื™ืจ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืงื•ืฉื˜ืช ื‘ื“ื’ืœื™ื ื•ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื™ืจื•ืขื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ื•ื’ ืืช ื”ื ื™ืฆื—ื•ืŸ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืฉื”ื•ื ืื™ื—ื“ ืืช ื”ืื•ืžื” ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ื”ืืจื™ืช. ืคื’ืฉืชื™ ืฉื ืืช ืฉืชื™ ื”ื“ื•ื“ื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ื•ื“ื•ื“ ืื—ื“, ื•ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืขื•ื“ ืžืชื—ืช ืœืฉื•ืง ืฉืœ ืฉื ื” ืื—ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื›ื™ื‘ื•ืฉ. ื™ืฉ ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ื ื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืฉื”ื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืžืจืื™ื ืืช ื”ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื”ื–ืืช. ื›ืฉื”ื“ื•ื“ ื”ื‘ื™ื ืื•ืชื™ ืžื‘ื™ืช ืื—ื“ ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืื—ืจ, ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ืžืžืฉ ืœืื•ืจืš ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื ืœื”ืชื‘ืœื˜, ืฉืœื ื™ืจืื• ืื•ืชื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš. ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ืื•ืชื” ื”ืจื’ืฉื”, ืื•ืœื™ ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืขื™ืจื” ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ืฉืœ ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ื. ืื‘ืœ ืืฆืœื• ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžื•ืจื’ืฉ, ื”ื•ื ื›ื ืจืื” ืกื‘ืœ ื’ื ืคื™ื–ื™ืช ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ืื ืฉืœื•ืก, ืฉื”ืจื™ ืฉื ื”ื›ืจื™ื—ื• ืืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ืงื•ืช ืืช ื”ืจื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช ื‘ืžื‘ืจืฉื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ื‘ืจื›ื™ื™ื. ืœื ืฉืืœืชื™ ืื•ืช ื”ืจื‘ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื“ื™ื›ืื•ืŸ ื”ืงืฉื” ื•ื‘ื“ืื’ื” ืœืขืชื™ื“. ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื—ื•ืฅ ืœืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ื”, ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืจืฅ ื‘ืืคื™ืงื™ื, ื•ื‘ืช ืื—ืจืช, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœื” ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื’ื ื”ื™ื ืจืฆืชื” ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืืจืฅ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ืœืื ื’ืœื™ื”. ื”ื•ื ื•ืืฉืชื• ืกื•ืคื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ, ืื‘ืœ, ืืช ื–ื” ืฉืžืขื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ. ื”ื“ื•ื“ื” ื”ืื—ืจืช ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื” ืขื•ื“ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ื“ืจืš ื‘ื ื•ืชื™ื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืžืขืจื‘, ื”ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ืขื“ ืœืงื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”. ื”ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื ืœื ื ืชื ื• ืœื” ืœื”ื™ื›ื ืก ืœืืžืจื™ืงื”, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื” ืฉื ื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉื™ื›ืœื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื“ ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ื‘ืงื•ื‘ื”.
ืฉ: ืชื–ื›ื™ืจื™ ืœื ื• ืืช ื”ืฉืžื•ืช.
ืช: ื”ื“ื•ื“ ื•ื”ื“ื•ื“ื” ืฉื”ื ื ืกืคื• ื‘ืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ ืžื•ื•ื™ื ื” (Wien), ืฉืžื ื”ื™ื” ืงื•ื ืฉื˜ื˜ ื‘ื ื• ื•ืœื•ืฆื™ ืงื•ื ืฉื˜ื˜. ื”ื“ื•ื“ื” ื”ืื—ืจืช ืฉื ื™ืฆืœื” ืงืจืื• ืœื” ืจื™ืฉื” ืคื•ืœืง, ื•ื”ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ืขื“ ืœืงื•ื‘ื”.
ืฉ: ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ืชื™ืขื•ื“ ืขืœื™ื”ื, ืื•ืœื™ ืชืกืคืจื™ ืœื ื• ืงืฆืช ืขืœื™ื”ื.
ืช: ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืขืœื™ื”ื ืžืขื˜ ืžืื•ื“, ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื’ืจื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ืื ื™ ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืจืง ืืช ืื—ืช ื”ื“ื•ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ืฉื™, ื•ืฉืชื™ ื‘ื ื•ืช-ื“ื•ื“ ืฉื”ื™ื’ืจื• ืœืืžืจื™ืงื”, ืื•ืชื ื”ื›ืจืชื™, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืจื™ื ืœื ื”ื›ืจืชื™. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืžืื•ื“ ื ื—ืžื“ื™ื. ื”ื ืจืง ืจืฆื• ืœืฆืืช, ืœืฆืืช, ืœืฆืืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืกื’ื•ืจ, ืกื’ื•ืจ, ืกื’ื•ืจ. ืคืจื ืกื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื, ื”ื ื—ื™ื• ืจืง ืžืžื” ืฉื—ืกื›ื•. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืžืฆื‘ ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืœื›ื“ ื‘ืžืœื›ื•ื“ืช ื”ื–ืืช. ืžืฉื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื˜ืจื™ืืกื˜ื”. ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืืช ื”ื’ื‘ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืฉืื•ืจ ื—ื“ืฉ ื”ืื™ืจ ืœื™. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืฉื—ืจื•ืจ ืฉืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœืชืืจ. ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืฉืฉ ืฉื ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืžื“ื•ื›ืื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืฉืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื—ื–ืงื”, ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื—ืจื•ืจ ื”ื–ื”, ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœืชืืจื•. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืขื“ ืœื˜ืจื™ืืกื˜ื”, ื”ืขืœื™ื™ื” ืœืื•ื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“. ื”ืื•ื ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืœืื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืจืง ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื›ื•ืจื”, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื™ืš, ืื‘ืœ ื“ืจืš ื”ื”ืกืชื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ืช ืื• ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื•. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืื•ื›ืœ ื›ืฉืจ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื›ื•ืœื, ื›ื™ ื›ื•ืœื ืฉื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืฉืจ ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื.
ืฉ: ืžืื™ืคื” ื”ื™ื• ืจื•ื‘ื, ื”ื™ื• ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”?
ืช: ื”ื™ื• ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืžืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ื”, ืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื”ืžื–ืœ ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงื˜ื™ื, ืื• ืฉื—ื–ืจื• ืžืื™ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง. ื”ื™ื• ืงืฆืช ืžืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ ืื• ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืฉืœ ื ื•ืขืจ ืฉื›ืŸ ืงื™ื‘ืœื•. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขื ื ื•ืขืจ, ืื– ื’ื ืขืกืงืชื™ ืฉื ื’ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื” ื‘ื›ืš ืฉืคืขืœื ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“, ืคืขื•ืœื•ืช, ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื•ืขื•ื ื’ ืฉื‘ืช, ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื”ื ืกื™ืขื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื™ืคื”. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉืื ื™ ื”ืคืœื’ืชื™ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืงื•ื•ื™ืŸ ืืœื™ื–ื‘ื˜, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืืจื‘ืข ื‘ืชื ืงื˜ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื™ืคื”. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื™ ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื™ืคื”, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ืฉืœ ื”ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื—ื–ืงื”. ื”ืคืœื’ื ื• ืืจื‘ืขื”, ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ื™ืžื™ื, ื•ื”ื’ืขื ื• ืขื“ ืœื™ืคื•. ืฉื ืขืžื“ื” ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื”ืื•ื ื™ื”, ื•ืกืคื’ืชื™ ื—ื–ืง ืžืื•ื“ ืืช ื”ืจืฉืžื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื•ื›ื ื”, ืจืื™ืชื™ ืชืžื•ื ื•ืช, ืงืจืืชื™ ืกืคืจื™ื ื•ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ืคื’ื™ืฉื” ืขื ื”ืืจืฅ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื—ื–ืงื”. ื”ื™ื” ืื– ืžื–ื’ ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื”ืจื™ ื‘ืืชื™ ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืžื—ื•ืจืฃ ืื™ืจื•ืคืื™, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืื‘ื™ื‘, ื•ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื–ื•ื”ืจ ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื™. ืขืœื” ื”ืคืงื™ื“ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื ื“ื˜ ืœื‘ื“ื•ืง ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ื™ื. ื–ื” ื–ื›ื•ืจ ืœื™, ืฉืขืžื“ื ื• ื‘ืชื•ืจ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืจืื” ืฉืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื™ื›ื ืก ื‘ืœื™ ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืืจืฆื™ืฉืจืืœื™, ื•ื”ื•ื ื‘ื“ืง. ื”ื•ื ืจืื” ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ืฉืœื™, ื”ื•ื ืจืื” ืืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื–ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ื“ื”ื, ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื–ืžืŸ ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™. ืื ื™ ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื•ื“ื™ื‘ืจืชื™ ืื™ืชื• ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ืื– ื”ื•ื ืฉืืœ ืื•ืชื™: ืื™ืš ืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืขื‘ืจื™ืช? ื•ืื™ืš ืงื™ื‘ืœืช ืืช ื”ืคืกืคื•ืจื˜ ื”ื–ื”? ื”ื•ื ื”ืขืžื™ื“ ืื•ืชื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื–ื” ืขื“ ื›ืžื” ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื ื“ื™ืจ, ื›ื™ ืขื“ ื›ื“ื™ ื›ืš ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื•ื ืขืกืง ื‘ื–ื”, ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืคืชืข. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ืžืฉื›ื ื• ืขื“ ืœืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘, ื•ืื ื™ ื™ืจื“ืชื™ ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘. ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘ ื”ื ืžืœ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ืžืจืฉื™ื ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ื™ื, ื‘ืื• ืกื™ืจื•ืช, ื™ืจื“ื ื• ืœืกื™ืจื•ืช, ื•ื ืกืขื ื• ืขื“ ืœื—ื•ืฃ. ืฉื ื—ื™ื›ื• ืœื™ ืื‘ื™, ืฉื”ื’ื™ืข ืฉื™ืฉื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช ืœืคื ื™-ื›ืŸ, ื•ืื—ื™ ื”ืื—ื“ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืื– ืžื•ืจื” ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘. ื”ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืื•ืชื™ ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”. ืœืžื—ืจืช ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ืืœ ืื™ืžื™ ืฉืขื‘ื“ื” ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื•ืืœ ืขื•ื“ ืื— ืื—ืจ. ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื”ืขืœื™ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืจืง ืฉืžื—ื” ื•ืœื ืคื—ื“ ืžืžื” ืฉื™ื”ื™ื”. ื—ืœืง ืžืคื ื™ ื”ื’ื™ืœ, ื—ืœืง ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืžืฉืคื—ืชื™ ื”ื’ืจืขื™ื ื™ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืืจืฅ, ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื”, ื•ื”ื ืฉืžื—ื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื™. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื’ื ืžื•ื›ื ื” ื‘ื–ื” ืฉื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืืช ื”ืฉืคื”. ืขื“ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื–ื” ืฉื‘ื ื™-ืื“ื ื—ื™ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื—ืžืฉ ืฉื ื™ื ื‘ืืจืฅ, ื•ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื ื›ืขื•ืœื™ื ื—ื“ืฉื™ื. ืื ื™ ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืื—ืจื™ ื™ื•ื ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ื›ืืŸ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื‘ื™ืช. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ืคื” ื”ืจื’ืฉืช ื‘ื™ืช ื›ืžื• ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ืืฃ ืคืขื. ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืจืข ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื–ื” ืœื ื ื›ื•ืŸ. ืื•ืžื ื ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื• ื’ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื™ืคื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจื’ืฉืช ื‘ื™ืช ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืืŸ ืžืŸ ื”ืจื’ืข ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ. ืื ื™ ืœื ืฆื•ื‘ืขืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืœืื—ืจ ื”ืžืขืฉื” ื‘ืฆื‘ืขื™ื ื•ืจื•ื“ื™ื, ืืœื ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืืžืช. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช, ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื”ืชื ืื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืื•ืžื ื ืœื ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืชื ืื™ื ื›ืœื›ืœื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื ืคืฉื™ืช ื”ืชื ืื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืคื” ื™ื—ื“, ื•ื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื•ื›ื ื”, ื•ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ืืŸ, ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื›ืœ ื ืจืื” ื‘ืื•ืจ ื›ื–ื”. ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื›ืœื›ืœื™, ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืžื• ื›ืœ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื›ืืŸ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืขื ื™ื™ื, ื•ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ืžื”ื™ื“ ืœืคื”. ืื•ืžื ื, ืื™ืžื ื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื— ื•ื’ื ืื— ืื—ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืžื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”? ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื”ืฆืจื›ื™ื ื”ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืงืฉื” ืœื ื•, ื”ื™ื•ื ื›ืฉืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืขื•ื ื™ ื–ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ. ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื”, ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ื ื’ื™ื“ ื‘ืขืœื™ื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืžื™ื˜ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช, ืœื ืžื–ืจื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช, ืœื ืืจื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช ื•ืœื ืžืขื‘ืจื”, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืœื ืžืฉื”ื• ืขื ืื•ื›ืœ, ืืœื ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืœื“ืื•ื’, ืœื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื— ืื™ื–ื” ื’ืจื•ืฉื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœืงื ื•ืช ืœื• ืœื—ื. ื›ืš ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœืžืขืฉื”. ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืžื–ืœ ื‘ื›ืš ืฉื“ื™ ืžื”ืจ, ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ ืฉื ืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ืžืชื—ื™ืœื” ืจืง ื‘ืกืชื™ื• ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืื‘ื™ื‘, ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื ื”. ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืžื™ื“ ืื™ื–ื• ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืžื‘ืœื™ ืฉื—ื™ืคืฉืชื™ ืื•ืชื”, ื‘ืขืฆื. ื›ื™ ื”ืจื™ ืกื™ืคืจืชื™ ืฉืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ืช ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื™ืขื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื ื•ืช ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืฆ'ื›ื•ืกืœื•ื‘ืงื™ื” ื•ืื•ืกื˜ืจื™ื”, ืฉื”ืŸ ื ืชืงื‘ืœื• ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืช ืžื–ืจื—ื™ ืฉื ืคืชื— ืื– ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื—ื•ื“ืฉ, ืฉื–ื” ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ, ื•ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ืฉื ื›ื‘ืจ ืื™ื–ื• ืื™ืฉื” ืžื”ืžืงื•ื, ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื™ื ืื—ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืืจืฅ, ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื ื‘ืื”, ืื– ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื ื”ืœืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื—ืกืจื” ืœื”ื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื”, ื•ืื– ืคื ื• ืืœื™. ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ืช ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ื”ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื ื•ืช ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ืฉืฉ-ืขืฉืจื”, ื•ื”ืŸ ื”ืชืงื‘ืœื• ืฉื ืžื”ืฆื“ ืฉืœ ืขืœื™ื™ืช ื”ื ื•ืขืจ. ืื ื™ ื’ืจืชื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืฉื, ื ื“ืžื” ืœื™ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ ืจื™ื™ื ืก ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘. ืฉื ืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ืขื“ ืœื”ืชื—ืœืช ืฉื ืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ืœืื—ืจ-ืžื›ืŸ. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”. ื”ืŸ ืœืžื“ื• ืขื‘ืจื™ืช, ื”ืŸ ื›ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ื“ื•, ื”ืŸ ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืŸ ืœืžื“ื• ืžื” ืฉืœืžื“ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื”ื•ื โ€“ ืžืฉืง ื‘ื™ืช, ืชืคื™ืจื” ื•ื›ื“ื•ืžื”.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื”ืฉืชืงืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืจื™ื™ืš?
ืช: ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื™ืžื ืขื‘ื“ื” ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ื›ืžื ื”ืœืช ื‘ื™ืช ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืช ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ืจื” ืฉื ื‘ื—ื“ืจ ืงื˜ืŸ, ื›ืš ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ืื‘ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื’ื•ืจ ืื™ืชื” ืฉื. ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื’ื ืกื“ืจื™ื ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื. ืื‘ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืขื ืื—ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื‘ื—ื“ืจ ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื, ืื– ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื’ืจื™ื ืฉืœื•ืฉืชื ื• ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ืื ื–ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ, ืื– ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืœื›ื ืื™ืš ื’ืจื ื• ืฉื, ื–ื” ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื™ ืคืขื ื—ืกืจื” ืœื—ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฆื•ืžืฆื. ืื ื—ื ื• ืฉื›ืจื ื• ื“ื™ืจื”, ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื“ื™ืจื”. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื“ื™ืจื” ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉื ื“ืžื” ืœื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืขื•ื“ ืงื™ื™ื. ื”ื“ื™ืจื” ื”ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื ืงืจื ืื– ืžื•ืขื“ื•ืŸ ืžื ื•ืจื”, ืฉื”ื™ื•ื ื–ื” ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ ื–'ืจืืจ ื‘ื›ืจ. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื“ื™ืจื” ืฉืฉื›ืจื ื• ื™ื—ื“. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื›ื”: ื‘ื—ื“ืจ ืื—ื“ ื“ื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื• ื—ื™ื™ื ืื‘ื™, ืื—ื™, ืื ื™ ื•ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื’ื ื”ืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื ืฉืœื ื•, ื›ื™ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ื’ื ืœื™ืคื˜ ืฉืœื ื•. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื—ื“ืจ ืื—ื“ ืฉื’ืจื• ืฉื ืฉื ื™ ืื—ื™ื, ืฉืื—ื“ ืžื”ื ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ืคืกื ืชืจืŸ ื•ื•ืœืคื™ืฉ, ืฉื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื• ื›ืืŸ, ืื•ืœื™ ืจืง ื”ืื, ื›ื™ ื”ืื‘ ืื•ืœื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื—ื™, ื•ื”ื ื™ื›ืœื• ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืœืฉืœื ืืช ื—ืœืงื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื” ื—ื“ืจ ืื—ื“ ืฉื’ืจื• ืฉื ืฉื ื™ ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ื”ืžื˜ื‘ื— ื”ื™ื” ื’ืจ ืฉื ืขื•ื“ ืื—ื“. ื›ื•ืœื ื• ื™ื—ื“ ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืขื ื‘ื™ืช-ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ืื—ื“, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ืืžื‘ื˜ื™ื”, ื•ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืื—ื“ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื”ืฉื ื™. ื›ื›ื” ื—ื™ื™ื ื•, ื•ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฉืžื—ื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื‘ืขืœื™-ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืžื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉืฉืžื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจืคืชื™. ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื˜ื•ื‘, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืฆืžืฆื•ื ื•ืžืื•ื“ ืฆืจ.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื” ืœื›ื ืงืฉืจ ืขื ื—ื‘ืจื™ื, ืžื›ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื’ื™ืขื• ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ืงืฉืจื™ื ื•ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ื—ื‘ืจื™ื, ื’ื ืœื ื• ื•ื’ื ืœื”ื•ืจื™ื. ืื-ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืจื™ืฉื™ื•ืŸ, ื›ื™ ื”ืจื™ ื–ื” ืœืงื— ื–ืžืŸ ืขื“ ืฉืœืงื—ื• ืืช ื”ืœื™ื™ืกื ืก. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืื‘ื ืœื ืจืฆื” ืœืฆืืช ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืžืŸ ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืข. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื“ืจืžื˜ื•ืœื•ื’, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืจื•ืคื ืขื•ืจ, ืื– ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ืจื•ืคืื™ ืขื•ืจ ืฉืขื‘ื“ื• ืฉื, ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ืืœื™ื”ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืงืฆืช ืื™ืชื ื•ืขื ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื, ืื‘ืœ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžื‘ืœื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื•ืœื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื—. ื’ื ื”ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ืงืจื™ืื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื‘ื“ื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ื•ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืœืš ืœืจื•ืคืื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ื•ืฉืงื“ ืœื”ื™ื›ื ืก ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ืื™ืžื ืขื‘ื“ื” ืงืฉื” ื›ืžื ื”ืœืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ืกื“. ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžืื•ืฉืจื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื™ื—ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื“ื•ืื’ื™ื ืœืืœื” ืฉื ืฉืืจื• ืžืื—ื•ืจ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืœืคื ื™ ืคืจื•ืฅ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื” ื‘ืื—ื“ ื‘ืกืคื˜ืžื‘ืจ 39'.
ืฉ: ื”ื™ื• ืœื›ื ืงืฉืจื™ ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ืื– ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ืขื•ื“ ืงืฉืจื™ ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื ืขื ืกื‘ืชื™ ืฉื ืฉืืจื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื•ืขื ืขื•ื“ ืื ืฉื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืคืจื˜ ืขื ื”ื“ื•ื“ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื•ืœื ื“, ืฉื›ืคื™ ืฉื”ื–ื›ืจืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื™ืžืื™ ื—ื•ืงืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื, ืืฉืชื• ื•ืฉืœื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื”ื•ื’ืœื• ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื›ื‘ืฉื• ืืช ื”ื•ืœื ื“, ืœื ืžื™ื“, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื ื”ื•ื’ืœื• ืœื˜ืจื–ื™ื™ื ืฉื˜ืื˜. ืฉื ื”ื ื”ื—ื–ื™ืงื• ืžืขืžื“, ื–ื” ืฉืžืขื ื• ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืžืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืฉื•ื—ืจืจื• ืžืฉื. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ื ืฉืœื—ื• ืขื•ื“ ืขื ื”ื˜ืจื ืกืคื•ืจื˜ ื”ืื—ืจื•ืŸ ืœืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ. ืฉืžื• ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ืกืœื•ืžื•ืŸ ืงื•ื‘ืจ ื•ืืฉืชื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื•ื•ื” ืงื•ื‘ืจ ื•ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื: ืžืจื™ื, ืจื•ืช ื•ืžื™ื›ืืœ, ื•ื”ื ืจืฉื•ืžื™ื ื‘ื™ื“-ื•ืฉื. ืกื‘ืชื ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืื‘ื•ืช.
ืฉ: ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau)?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืื‘ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ืื ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ืœืžื–ืœื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื–ืœ ืงื˜ืŸ ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื‘ื ืชื•ื ื™ื ื”ืื™ื•ืžื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœืžื–ืœื”, ืฉื”ื™ื ื ืคื˜ืจื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืžื™ื˜ืชื” ืฉื, ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืื›ื•ืœื” ื’ืขื’ื•ืขื™ื ื•ื’ื ื—ื•ืกืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืขื™ื ื•ื™ ื•ืœื ื›ื‘ืฉืŸ. ื”ื™ื ื ืคื˜ืจื” ืื™ื–ื” ื›ืžื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื ืขื ื”ื–ืงื ื™ื ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื•ื‘ืœื• ืœืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ. ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื›ืœ ื–ื” ืฉืžืขื ื• ืจืง ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืืช ื–ื” ืฉืžืขื ื• ืขื•ื“ ื“ืจืš ื”ื“ื•ื“ ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืœื ื“, ืฉื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื’ื ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืขืœ ื—ื™ื™ ื‘ืืจืฅ ืื ื™ ืจืง ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ืฉื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“, ืœืžื“ืชื™, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื•ืจื”, ื‘ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ื ืขื‘ื“ืชื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ืช ื ื•ืขืจ, ื•ื ืชืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ืคืจื˜ื™ื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื— ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื•. ืงืฆืช ื›ืกืฃ ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื•, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ื›ืกืฃ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืžืขื˜ ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื’ื ื‘ื›ืกืฃ ื”ื–ื” ืœื ื ื’ืขื ื•, ื›ื™ ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœื—ืกื•ืš. ื—ืกื›ื ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื›ืš ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ื”ืœื›ื ื• ื‘ืจื’ืœ, ื•ืœื ื”ืฉืชืžืฉื ื• ื‘ืื•ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืก ื‘ืฉื ื™ ืžื™ืœ ืื• ืฉืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื” ื–ื” ืขืœื”. ืื ื™, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืฉืื›ืœืชื™ ืืจื•ื—ืช ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื‘ืฉืœื•ืฉื”-ืขืฉืจ ืžื™ืœ ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืจืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืขื ืœื—ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืžืœื ืืช ื”ื‘ื˜ืŸ. ืื›ืœื ื• ื’ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชืคื•ื–ื™ื, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื–ื•ืœื™ื ืžืืฉืจ ืชืคื•ื—ื™-ืื“ืžื”. ืื‘ืœ ืœืžื“ืชื™, ืฉืžื—ืชื™, ื•ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืืช ื™ืœื™ื“ื™ ื”ืืจืฅ, ืืช ื”ื•ื•ืชื™ืงื™ื. ืื—ื™ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืชืœ-ืื‘ื™ื‘, ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžื•ืจื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืืจืฅ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื—ืžืฉ ืฉื ื™ื, ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืขืœื™ืชื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืืจื‘ืข ื•ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื ื™ื ื‘ืืจืฅ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ื›ืžื• ื‘ื™ืœ"ื•. ื’ื ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืืช ืขืฆืžื• ื›ื›ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืื•ืชื ื• ืœื›ืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื™ื ืžื”, ืื™ืš ื•ื›ื™ืฆื“. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื“ืื’ื” ืœืžื™ ืฉื ืฉืืจ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืงืฉืจ ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื. ืœืžื“ืชื™, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื›ืžื•ืจื” ื‘ืคืจื“ืก ื—ื ื”. ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ืกื•ื“ื™ ืฉื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื‘ืžื™ื ื• ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืฉืื•ืœื™ ืฉื•ื›ื—ื™ื ืืช ื–ื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื•. ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื”ืžื•ืฉื‘ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ื•ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืฉื”ื•ืงื ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื•ื•ืขื“ ื”ืœืื•ืžื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื›ืกืฃ, ืื• ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืžืขื˜ ืžืื•ื“, ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื ืจืฆื• ืœื ืฆืœ ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืืช ื›ื•ื—ื•ืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”. ืื– ืงืจื” ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื•ื ืงืฉื” ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ื“ืขืช, ืฉื”ื“ืชื™ื™ื ื•ื”ืœื ื“ืชื™ื™ื ืืžืจื•: ืื ื—ื ื• ื ืงื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืื—ื“, ื•ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื“ืชื™ื™ื ื•ืœื ื“ืชื™ื™ื. ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืจื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ื ื‘ื•ืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ืืžืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืฆื” ืจืง ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืชื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืœื›ื•ืœื. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื‘ืขื” ืžื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืื• ืื•ืœื™ ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืžื•ืจื™ื. ื”ื™ื• ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืžื•ืจื™ื. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื‘ืงืฉ ืฉืฉื ื™ื™ื ืžื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื™ื”ื™ื• ื“ืชื™ื™ื, ืฉื›ืœ ื‘ื•ืงืจ ืžืชื—ื™ืœื™ื ื‘ืชืคื™ืœื” ืงืฆืจื” ืœื›ื•ืœื, ื•ื›ืฉืœื•ืžื“ื™ื ืชื•ืจื” ืœืคื™ ื”ืชื•ื›ื ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื‘ืชื™-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื›ืœืœื™ื™ื, ืื– ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ื›ื™ืกื•ื™ ืจืืฉ ื•ื›ื‘ื•ื“. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉ. ืื ื™ ื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืœืฉื ืขืœ ืชืงืŸ ื”ืžื•ืจื” ื”ื“ืชื™ืช ื”ืื—ืช. ื”ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ื”ื™ื” ืฉื‘ืžืงื•ื ืงื˜ืŸ ื›ื–ื” ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืืจื‘ืข ืžื•ืจื•ืช ื‘ืฉื ื—ื ื”, ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื—ืช ืžื”ืŸ ื•ื›ื•ืœื ื• ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืคืจื“ืก ื—ื ื”. ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื™ืคื”, ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืื– ืฉื™ืฉื” ื•ื—ืฆื™ ืœื™ืจื•ืช ืœื—ื•ื“ืฉ, ื ื“ืžื” ืœื™ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืกื›ื•ื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื˜ ืžืื•ื“, ื•ื’ื ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื’ื™ืข ื‘ื–ืžืŸ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื ื”ื™ื”, ืœื ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืœื ืจืฆื• ืœืฉืœื, ืืœื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื ื”ื™ื”. ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื ืคืชื— ืจืง ืื—ืจื™ ืกื•ื›ื•ืช ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืชืงืฆื™ื‘, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืœื”ืœื›ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื™ืคืชื— ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ืื—ื“ ื‘ืกืคื˜ืžื‘ืจ. ื”ื™ื” ื ืขื™ื ื•ื™ืคื”, ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืžืงื•ื, ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืœืœื›ืช ืฉื ื‘ืฉื“ื•ืช ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ. ืื™ืš ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืฉืœื ืฉื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื—ื“ืจ? ื’ืจืชื™ ืฉื ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœ ืขื•ืœื™ื ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื ืงืฆืช ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืœื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžื™ื•ื“ื“ื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื. ื”ื ื’ืจื• ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ื‘ื™ืช ืงื˜ืŸ ื‘ืคืจื“ืก ื—ื ื” ื•ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืื™ื–ื” ืžื—ืกืŸ ื‘ืขืฆื ืฉื”ื™ื” ื“ื™ ืžืจื•ื•ื—, ืื– ื—ืฆื™ื• ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉืžืฉ ืžื—ืกืŸ, ื•ื‘ื—ืฆื™ื• ื”ืฉื ื™ ื”ื ื”ืขืžื™ื“ื• ืžื™ื˜ื”, ืฉื•ืœื—ืŸ ืงื˜ืŸ ื•ื›ื™ืกื. ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื’ื ืื™ื–ื” ืืจื•ืŸ ืงื˜ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืื™ื ื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช. ืฉื›ืจืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ื–ื•ืœ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื—ืกืŸ. ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืžื™ื, ืื– ืื ื™ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื”ืชืจื—ืฅ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื”ื, ื•ื’ื ื”ื›ื ืชื™ ืœื™ ืฉื ืื•ื›ืœ. ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ื ื—ืžื“ื™ื, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืื™ืชื. ืื‘ืœ, ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืฉืœืงื™ืงืช ื“ื‘ืฉ, ืœืคื™ ื”ืžื•ืฉื’ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื, ื–ื” ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ืฉืจืช. ืžื” ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘, ื–ื” ืฉื‘ืื•ืชื” ื”ืฉื ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื, ืื– ืื‘ื™ ื—ืœื” ื•ื ืคื˜ืจ. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืคื’ื•ืข ืžืื•ื“ ื’ื ืžื”ื™ื•ืชื• ื‘ื‘ื•ื›ื ื•ื•ืืœื“ (Buchenwald), ืื– ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ืžืขืžื“, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื–ืงืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœืช ื”ืฉื™ืฉื™ื.
ืฉ: ืžืžื” ื”ื•ื ื ืคื˜ืจ?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ื”ื’ื•ืฃ ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื ืขืžื“ ื‘ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืœื—ืฅ ื“ื ื’ื‘ื•ื” ื•ื›ื•'. ืื– ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืืžื‘ื•ืœื™ื” ื‘..., ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื“ืกื”, ื˜ื™ืคืœื• ื‘ื• ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืขืžื“ ื‘ื›ืš. ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ื”ืกื™ื‘ื”, ืฉื›ืžื” ืฉืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืฉื ื‘ืคืจื“ืก ื—ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืœื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืงืจื•ื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœืื™ืžื™. ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืงืœ ืื– ืœืงื‘ืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื›ืžื•ืจื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืžื–ืœ. ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ื›ืžื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื”, ื›ืš ืฉื”ื™ื•ื ืงืฉื” ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืขืœ ื”ื“ืขืช. ื›ืืฉืจ ืื ื™ ื’ืžืจืชื™ ืืช ื”ืกืžื™ื ืจ ืœืžื•ืจื•ืช, ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืžื—ื–ื•ืจ ืฉืœื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื’ื•ืžืจื•ืช, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื›ืžืขื˜ ืฉื™ืฉื™ื ื’ื•ืžืจื•ืช ื‘ืžื—ื–ื•ืจ ืื—ื“, ื•ื›ืฉื”ืชื—ื™ืœื” ืฉื ืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ืื™ื–ื” ืฉืชื™ื™ื ืฉืœื•ืฉ, ื•ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื—ืช ืžื”ืŸ, ืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ืžืฉืจื”. ืขื“ ืœื—ื ื•ื›ื” ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ ื›ืš, ืฉืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืื• ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืงื‘ืœ ืขื•ื“, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœื•. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืžื–ืœ ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืื– ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ื’ื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื, ืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื ื” ืœื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื•ืžืื– ืื ื™ ื™ืจื•ืฉืœืžื™ืช ืœืžืขืฉื”. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ ืื ื™ ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ื™ื• ืื– ื‘ื”ืจ ื”ืฆื•ืคื™ื, ื•ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืฉืœ ืžื“ืขื™ ื”ืจื•ื— ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื—ืจื™-ื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืœื ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ, ื›ื™ ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“. ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงื˜ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ื•ืœื ืขื‘ื“ื• ืœืคืจื ืกืชื, ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืจื™ื. ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ื•ื’ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื ืื—ืจื™-ื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืœื ืœืคื ื™-ื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื›ืžื• ืขื›ืฉื™ื•. ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืžืจืชื™, ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ื‘ืืจืฅ ืžื”ืจื’ืข ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืฉื–ื” ื”ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื™. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืืชื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื“ืขืช ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืื™ืš ืื ื™ ื”ืชื—ืชื ืชื™? ื”ืชื—ืชื ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื›ืžืขื˜ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื‘ืกืชื™ื• 44'. ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืื™ืฉื™ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš, ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื•, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืืคืจื™ื ืื•ืจื‘ืš. ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืื‘ืœ ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื”ื’ื™ืœื™ื ื‘ื™ื ื™ื ื• ื”ื™ื” ืฉืฉ ืฉื ื™ื, ืื– ื‘ื”ื™ื•ืชื• ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜, ื•ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืชืœืžื™ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื”ื›ืฉืจื” ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื ื˜, ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืืช ื”ืจื‘ื ื•ืช ื•ื›ื•'. ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ืงืฉืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื’ื ืืœ ื‘ื™ืชื ื•, ืื‘ืœ, ืขื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ืงืฉืจื™ื ืื™ืฉื™ื™ื. ื”ืงืฉืจื™ื ื ืจืงืžื• ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ, ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื’ื ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจืช. ื”ื•ื ืขืœื” ืืจืฆื” ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื ื” ืœืคื ื™ ื‘-38'. ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื”ื–ืžื ื” ืžื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ืœืžื—ืงืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื™ืžื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ืฆืขื™ืจ ืžืื•ื“, ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืŸ ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืฉืฉ. ืื– ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืžืœื’ืช ืžื—ืงืจ, ืื– ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืžื—ืงืจ ืฉื ื” ืื—ืช ื‘ืœื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ืืœื ืจืง ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ืช ืžื—ืงืจ. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ืœืชื™ ืจื’ื™ืœ, ืฉื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื›ืžื•ืจื” ื‘ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ ื‘ื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื” ืจื—ื‘ื™ื” ื‘ื›ื™ืชื•ืช ื™"ื, ื™"ื‘ ื‘ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืชื "ืš ื•ืกืคืจื•ืช ืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ืื’ื‘, ืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื’ื ื” ื•ื’ื ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื”ื’ื ื” ื›ืžืขื˜ ืžืŸ ื”ืจื’ืข ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉื‘ืืชื™. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืžืืœื™ื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืื™ื–ื• ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืฉื”ืจืขื™ืฉื” ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ืื• ืืช ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืžืจืืฉ. ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืฆื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืืŸ ืกืคืจ ืฉื ืงืจื 'ืขืจื•ื’ืช ื”ื‘ื•ืฉื'. ืื‘ืœ, ืขืœ ื”ื‘ื™ื•ื’ืจืคื™ื” ืฉืœื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืงืจื•ื ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ, ืื ื™ ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืกืคืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ืขืœ ื”ื‘ื™ื•ื’ืจืคื™ื” ืฉืœื•, ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื ื›ืชื‘. ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ื‘ื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื” ืจื—ื‘ื™ื” ื‘ื›ื™ืชื•ืช ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื•ืช, ื•ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืงืฉืจ ื—ื–ืง ืืœ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื”ืฆื‘ืจื™ื, ืฉื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ืœื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื–ื›ื• ืื– ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉืœื ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”. ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ื•ื•ืชื™ืงื™ื, ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืงืฆืช ืžืกื•ื“ืจืช, ื•ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืœืžื“ื•.
ืฉ: ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ืขื“ื•ืช ืขืœ ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืื•ืจื‘ืš, ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืกืคืจ ืœื ื• ืงืฆืช ืขืœ ื™ืœื“ื•ืชื• ื•ืขืœ ืžืฉืคื—ืชื• ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ?
ืช: ื›ืŸ. ื”ื•ื ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘ื•ื•ืœื•ืฆืœื‘ืง, ืฉื–ื• ืขื™ื™ืจื” ืื• ืขื™ืจ ืœื™ื“ ื”ื•ื•ื™ืกืœื” ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ ื”ืงื•ื ื’ืจืกืื™ืช ืœืžืฉืคื—ื” ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ืช. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื”ื‘ืŸ ื”ื‘ื›ื•ืจ ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื• ืฉืชื™ ืื—ื™ื•ืช. ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ืžืกื•ืจืชื™ ืžื’ื™ืœ ืฆืขื™ืจ ืžืื•ื“. ืžื” ืคื™ืจื•ืฉ ืžืกื•ืจืชื™? ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืจืง ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ืฉื ื™ืกื• ืœื”ืงื™ื ืฉื ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืชื—ื›ืžื•ื ื™ ื‘ื›ื™ืชื•ืช ื' ื•-ื‘' ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืชืžื™ื“ ืจืง ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ืคืจื˜ื™ื™ื. ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื›ืฉืจ, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ืื‘ ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืขื ื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืืฆืœ ื”ืžืœืžื“ื™ื ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื•ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“. ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช? ืื ื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ืฉืืœืชื™ ืื•ืชื•. ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ, ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืืช ื”ืฉืคื” ื”ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ื•ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื”ื•ื ื’ื ืœืžื“, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืงืจื ื•ืœืžื“, ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขืกื•ืง ื‘ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืžื ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช? ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™, ืฉื”ืื‘ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืื—ื“ ืžืŸ ื”ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ื, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ืชื ื’ื“ ืœื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื›ืœืœื™ืช, ื•ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื’ื™ืข ืืคืจื™ื ืœื’ื™ืœ ืืจื‘ืข-ืขืฉืจื”, ื”ื•ื ื ื›ื ืก ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื‘ื•ื•ืœื•ืฆืœื‘ืง ืœื›ื™ืชื” ื˜'. ืฉืืœืชื™ ืื•ืชื•: ืžื ื™ืŸ ื™ื“ืขืช? ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ื™ื“ืขืชื™. ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข. ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืฉื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืฆื™ื•ื ื™, ืฉืœื™ืžื“ื• ื‘ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื›ืœืœื™ื™ื, ื•ืืช ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื ืœื™ืžื“ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ืฉืœื—ื• ืœืฉื ื›ืžืขื˜ ืจืง ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืœ ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื•ืช, ืžืขื˜ ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืžื‘ืชื™ื ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ื™ื ื•ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ืฉืœื—ื• ืœืฉื ืžืืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื• ืžืชื‘ื•ืœืœื™ื ื‘ืคื•ืœื ื™ื”. ืื–, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื™ื• ืžืื•ื“ ื™ื“ื•ืขื™ื ื›ืืŸ, ืœืžื“ื• ืฉื ื‘ืจื–ื™ืœื™ ื•ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืืœื›ืกื ื“ืจ ืคื•ืงืก. ืื‘ืœ ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื• ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื? ื”ื•ื ืงื ืžื•ืงื“ื ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ, ืœืžื“ ื’ืžืจื, ื”ืœืš ืœื’ื™ืžื ืกื™ื” ื‘ืชืœื‘ื•ืฉืช ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ื—ื–ืจ ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”, ืœื‘ืฉ ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื‘ื•ืฉ ืžืกื•ืจืชื™ ื•ืœืžื“. ื”ื•ื ืงืจื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื™ื—ืกื™ืช ืœื ืงื˜ื ื” ืฉืจื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื•ืžืจืช ืžืฆื•ื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื›ื•ืœื”. ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืžืื•ืจื’ื ืช, ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืกืคืจื™ื”. ื”ื•ื ืงืจื, ืงืจื, ืงืจื, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“, ื•ื’ืžืจ ืืช ื”ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ืฉืžื•ื ื”-ืขืฉืจื”. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื•ื’ื ื”ื•ืจื™ื•, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื”ืื‘, ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื—ืกื™ื“ื™ื, ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื•ื ื™ื™ืŸ, ื•ื”ื‘ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื•ื ื™ื™ืŸ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืืงื“ืžื™. ืืžืจื• ืœืื‘ื ืฉืœื•: ืจ' ื™ื•ืกืœ, ืื™ืš ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”? ื”ื•ื ื™ืœืžื“ ืฉื, ื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ, ื•ืื– ื”ื•ื ื™ื—ืœืœ ืฉื‘ืช, ืื™ืš ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”? ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจ ื”ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื, ื”ื ืชื™ืืจื• ืœืขืฆืžื ืฉื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื™ื”ื™ื” ืจื•ืคื. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื, ืฉื”ืื‘ื ืฉืœื• ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืืžืช ื”ื™ื” ื—ืกื™ื“, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื›ื ืจืื” ื™ื•ืฆื ื“ื•ืคืŸ ื’ื ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœืฆื™ื•ื ื•ืช ื•ื’ื ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœื”ืฉื›ืœื” ื›ืœืœื™ืช. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ ืฉื”ื•ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื™ืกื•ื“ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“. ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื”ื™ืชืจ ื”ื•ืจืื” ืขื•ื“ ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื‘ื—ืŸ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ืจื‘ื ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœืœืžื•ื“. ื‘ื ื‘ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื• ื‘ื‘ืจืœื™ืŸ, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืœื“ืกื”ื™ื™ืžืจ, ืื• ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ืื ื™ ืืคื ื” ื‘ืžื›ืชื‘, ื•ืžื™ ืฉื™ืขื ื” ืœื™ ืฉื™ืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื™, ืื‘ืœ, ืžื” ืคื™ืจื•ืฉ ืฉื™ืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื™? ื™ืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ืœื™ ื›ืกืฃ, ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื›ื•ื•ื ื”. ืœืงื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืฉืืœื” ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ืชื ืื™ื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ืขืฆื ื‘ืžืœื’ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืขื ื™, ื•ื”ื ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉืœื•ื— ืœื• ื›ืกืฃ. ืœื”ื™ืคืš, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื— ื›ื‘ืจ, ื”ื•ื ืฉืœื— ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืžืฆื‘. ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืงืจื”, ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau). ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื’ื•ืจืœื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™. ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืชืฉื•ื‘ื” ืžืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ื™ืฆื—ืง ื”ื™ื™ื ืžืŸ ืฉืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœื›ืืŸ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื—ื•ืงืจ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ื•ื™ื“ื•ืข ืžืื•ื“, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ืžื” ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื” ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืคื™ืœื• ื•ื›ื•'. ื”ื–ืžื™ื ื• ืื•ืชื•, ื•ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข ื‘ืฉื ืช 30' ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื—ื’ื™ื ื‘ืกืชื™ื• ืœื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืื“ื ืฆืขื™ืจ ื‘ืŸ ืฉืžื•ื ื”-ืขืฉืจื”, ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืฉื ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ื’ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืจืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“, ื’ื ื‘ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืชืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ื”ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉืคื•ืช ืฉืžื™ื•ืช, ืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื” ื•ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื”. ื•ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืžื“ืจืฉ ื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืฉืœ ืกืžื™ื ืจ ืœืจื‘ื ื™ื. ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ืฉื ืช 35', ื”ื•ื ื’ืžืจ ืื– ื’ื ืืช ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”. ืชื™ืื•ืจื˜ื™ืช ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื, ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื• ื ืชื™ื ื•ืช ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช. ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื“ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ืจืฆื” ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื, ื›ื™ ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ื ืืฆื™ื•ืช, ื•ื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืกื™ืœืงื• ืื•ืชื, ื›ื™ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื. ื•ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ื“ืขื•ืช ืงืฆืช ืขื ืจืืฉ ืคืชื•ื— ื”ื ื’ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ื•, ื”ื ืกื•ืœืงื•. ืื– ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื• ืฉื ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau), ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ื”ื™ื™ื ืžืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืคื ื” ืืœ ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืงืืกื•ื˜ื• ื”ื™ื“ื•ืข ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจื•ืžื, ื•ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื”ื, ืฉื›ื“ืื™ ืœื”ื ืœืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื•, ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜ ื‘ืจื•ืžื. ืงืืกื•ื˜ื• ื“ืื’ ืœื–ื”, ื•ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืื•ืชื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜ ื‘ืจื•ืžื. ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ื” ืื—ืช ื‘ืจื•ืžื, ื•ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืฉื ืืช ื”ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜. ื”ื•ื ื›ืชื‘ ืืช ื”ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜ ื‘ืฆืจืคืชื™ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ื“ืข ืื™ื˜ืœืงื™ืช. ื–ื” ื”ืชืคืจืกื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื’ื ื‘ืจื™ื‘ื™ื• ื”ืฆืจืคืชื™, ื•ื–ื” ืชื•ืจื’ื ื’ื ืœืขื‘ืจื™ืช. ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื˜ ื‘ืจื•ืžื, ื•ืžืฉื ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืืจืฅ. ืื‘ืœ ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ื•ืฉื ื™ืช ื”ืžืฆื‘ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉืžืžื ื• ื”ื•ื ื‘ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื‘ืจืกืœืื• (Breslau) ื‘ืกืžื™ื ืจ ื”ืžืฆื‘ ื”ื™ื” ื›ื–ื”, ืฉื—ืœืง ืžืŸ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ืขื–ื‘ื• ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื ื’ื“ ื–ื” ื‘ืื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชืœืžื™ื“ื™ื, ืืœื” ืฉื ืคืœื˜ื• ืžืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืื•ืช, ืฉืจืฆื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื”ืกื‘ืช ืžืงืฆื•ืข, ื•ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืขื•ื“ ืœื”ืฉื›ืœื” ืœืื™ื–ื” ื’ืžืจ. ืื– ืคื ื• ืืœื™ื• ืžื”ืกืžื™ื ืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืฉื ื•ื™ืœืžื“. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื– ื‘ืกืš-ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ืŸ ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืฉืœื•ืฉ, ื•ื”ื•ื ื ืขืฉื” ืžืจืฆื”. ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“ ืฉื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืž-36' ืขื“ 38' ื•ื”ื™ื” ืžืจืฆื”. ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ืื”ื‘ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืžื—ืงืจ. ื‘-38' ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ, ื‘ื›ืœ-ืื•ืคืŸ ืฉื“ื™, ืื– ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื”ื–ืžื ื” ืœืืจืฅ, ื•ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืืจืฅ. ื”ื•ื ืจืฆื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืœืืจืฅ ืืช ื”ื•ืจื™ื• ื•ืืช ืื—ื™ื•ืชื™ื•, ื•ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื–ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื™ืฉื• ื‘ืงืฉื” ืœืกืจื˜ื™ืคื™ืงืื˜, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื”ื™ื”. ื‘ื“ืจื›ื• ืœืืจืฅ ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืกื™ื‘ื•ื‘, ื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ื“ืจืš ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืขื•ื“ ืคืขื ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืฉื ื”, ื‘ื™ื•ื ื›ื™ืคื•ืจ ื•ื‘ืกื•ื›ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืฉื ืช 38', ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื– ืืฆืœ ื”ื•ืจื™ื•, ื•ืœื ื™ื“ืข ืฉืœื ื™ืจืื” ืื•ืชื ืขื•ื“. ื”ื•ื ื”ื‘ื˜ื™ื— ืœื”ื ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื›ืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืื•ืชื ื•ืืช ื”ืื—ื™ื•ืช ืœืืจืฅ. ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉืชื“ืœ, ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉืชื“ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืขืœื” ื‘ื™ื“ื•. ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ืงืฉืจ ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื–ื” ื ืคืกืง. ื›ืœ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืžืœื ื“ืื’ื” ื‘ืฆื“ืง, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื“ ืงื™ื•ื•ื” ืฉืžื ื”ื ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ื ื™ืฆืœื•, ืžื” ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื”. ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืขืœ ื–ื” ื’ื ืขื“ื•ืช, ื•ื”ื•ื ืžืกืจ ืืช ื–ื” ื’ื ื‘ื™ื“-ื•ืฉื, ืืช ื”ืฉืžื•ืช ื•ื›ืœ ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืืช ื”ืขื“ื•ืช ืฉืื•ืžื ื ื”ื ื ืœืงื—ื• ื•ื ืฉืœื—ื• ื”ื•ื ืฉืžืข ืจืง ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉื ืช 45' ืื• ื”ืชื—ืœืช 46' ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ื›ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื›ืŸ, ืกื•ืฃ ื›ืœ ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืจื™ ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ืข ืžื” ืงืจื”, ื•ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื’ื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืžืœื—ืžื” ืจื‘ ืฆื‘ืื™, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืžื’ืข ืขื ืคืœื™ื˜ื™ื, ื•ื™ื“ืข ืžื” ื”ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืขื“ ืฉืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ืœื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื”ืืžื™ืŸ. ืฉืžื ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ื”ื ื ื™ืฆืœื• ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื•, ืฉืื•ืœื™ ื”ื ื‘ืจื—ื• ืœืจื•ืกื™ื”, ื•ืœื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ืชืงืฉืจ, ืžื” ืฉืงืจื” ื‘ืืžืช ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืงืจื” ืืฆืœื, ืืœื ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื™ื“ื™ืขื” ืฉื”ื ืขื‘ืจื• ืžื•ื•ืฆืœื•ื•ืง ืœืื™ื–ื” ื›ืคืจ ื‘ืฆื“, ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืืฆืœ ื”ืกื‘ืชื, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื’ื˜ื• ืงื•ื˜ื ื•, ื•ืžืงื•ื˜ื ื• ื”ื ื ืฉืœื—ื• ืœืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ ื›ื•ืœื. ื›ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื›ืŸ ืœื–ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื’ื ื”, ื•ื‘ื”ื’ื ื” ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื“. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืืžืจื• ืฉืจืฆื•ื™ ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ื™ืชื’ื™ื™ืกื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉืจืช ื‘ืฆื‘ื ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™, ื›ืฉื”ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ื™ื“ื•ืขื•ืช. ื”ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•: ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ, ืœื”ื™ืœื—ื ื ื’ื“ ื”ื™ื˜ืœืจ, ื•ืœื ืœืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ืฆื“, ื›ื™ ื–ืืช ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ืฉืœื ื•. ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื™, ืœื”ื›ื™ืŸ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ืช ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื ืฆื˜ืจืš ืœื”ื™ืœื—ื, ืฉืœื ืจืง ื ื“ืข ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืคื™ืฃ ืคืืฃ ืขื ืจื•ื‘ื” ืืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื ืœืžื“ ืžื” ื–ื” ืžืœื—ืžื”. ื•ื’ื ื›ื™ ืื•ืœื™ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืœืงื‘ืœ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ื•ืช ืื ืชื”ื™ื” ื•ื›ืืฉืจ ืชื”ื™ื™ื ื” ื”ื›ืจืขื•ืช ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ ื’ืžืจ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”. ื›ื›ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ืชื’ื™ื™ืก, ืชื—ื™ืœื” ื”ื•ื ื”ืชื’ื™ื™ืก ื›ื˜ื™ืจื•ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื˜ื™ืคืก ื‘ืฆืจื™ืคื™ืŸ ื‘ืกืจืคื ื“ ืขืœ ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช, ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืฆื•ืจืš ืจื•ื—ื ื™, ื—ื‘ืจืชื™, ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืจื‘ ืฆื‘ืื™ ืžืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื• ืจื‘ื ื™ื ืฆื‘ืื™ื™ื ืžื‘ืจื™ื˜ื ื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืœื ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ืืช ื”ืชื ืื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืืจืฅ, ื•ื”ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ืœื ืืช ื”ืžื ื˜ืืœื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•. ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื“ืื’ื• ืœื›ืš, ื•ื ืœื—ืžื• ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืฆื“ ืื—ื“ ื”ืจื‘ ื”ืจืฆื•ื’, ืฉื”ื™ื” ืื– ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจืืฉื™. ืžืฆื“ ืฉื ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืฉืจืชื•ืง-ืฉืจืช, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื™ ื”ื™ื” ืžื™ื ื™ืกื˜ืจ ื”ื—ื•ืฅ ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช. ื”ื ื“ืจืฉื• ืžืŸ ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ื ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืจื‘ ืฆื‘ืื™ ืœื™ื—ื™ื“ื•ืช ื”ืืจืฆื™ืฉืจืืœื™ื•ืช, ื•ืื– ื”ื•ื ืžื•ื ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืจื‘ ืฆื‘ืื™. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื‘ืžื–ืจื— ื”ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืžืฆืจื™ื, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืœื•ื‘, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืชื•ื ื™ืก ื•ื›ื•' ื•ื›ื•' ื•ื’ื ื‘ืื™ื˜ืœื™ื”, ืขื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ื–ืจ ืืจืฆื”. ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ื–ืจ ืืจืฆื” ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืชื—ืชื ื• ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกืชื™ื• 44'. ื”ื•ื ืจืฉื ืœืขืฆืžื• ืืช ื”ืจืฉื™ืžื•ืช, ืจืง ืœืขืฆืžื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื™ื•ืžืŸ ืื™ืฉื™ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืชืคื›ื•ืช ื”ื ืคืฉ, ืืœื ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ื ื•ืช ื•ืจืฉืžื™ื, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื“ื ืฉื—ื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื, ื”ื•ื ื—ื™ ืืช ื”ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื”, ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช ืžื”ื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื”ื–ืืช. ื”ื•ื ืจืฉื ืœืขืฆืžื• ืืช ื”ืจืฉื™ืžื•ืช. ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื‘ื—ื–ืจื” ืœืืจืฅ ื”ื•ื ื”ืคืกื™ืง ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ื•ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ื“ ื›ืืŸ ืœืฆื‘ื ืขื“ ืกื•ืฃ 45' ืขื“ ืฉื”ื•ื ืฉื•ื—ืจืจ. ื”ื•ื ืฉื•ื—ืจืจ ื›ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจื™ ื’ืžืจ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”. ืืช ื”ืจืฉื™ืžื•ืช ื”ื•ื ืœื ืคืจืกื, ื”ื ืจืง ืคื•ืจืกืžื• ืœืคื™ ื‘ืงืฉืชื ื‘ื›ืžื” ืกืคืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืœื•ื‘ ืฉืจืฆื•, ื•ื‘ืกืคืจ ืฉืœ ืกื™ืจื ื™ ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ืื™ื˜ืœื™ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื›ื›ื” ื”ื•ื ืœื ืคืจืกื. ืื– ืื ื—ื ื• ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ื”ืื—ืจื•ืŸ ืื—ืจื™ ืคื˜ื™ืจืชื• ื™ื“ืขื ื• ืขืœ ื”ืคื ืงืกื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืขืกืงื ื• ื‘ื”ื. ืื– ื—ืฉื‘ื ื• ืื ืœืคืจืกื ืื• ืœื ืœืคืจืกื, ื•ืจืง ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืคืจืกืžื ื• ืื•ืชื, ื–ื” ื›ืืŸ ืžื•ื ื— ืื ืืช ืžื•ื›ื ื” ืœื”ืกืชื›ืœ.
ืฉ: ืžื” ื”ืฉื ืฉืœ ื”ืกืคืจ?
ืช: ื”ืกืคืจ ื ืงืจื "ืจืฉื™ืžื•ืช ื‘ื™ืžื™ ืžืœื—ืžื”" ืžืืคืจื™ื ืืœื™ืžืœืš ืื•ืจื‘ืš, ื•ื–ื” ื™ื•ืžื ื• ืฉืœ ืจื‘ ืืจืฆื™ืฉืจืืœื™ ื‘ืฆื‘ื ื”ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ ืชืฉ"ื‘-ืชืฉ"ื“. ื›ืืŸ ื ืžืฆืื™ื ืจืง ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ืฉื”ื•ื ื›ืชื‘ ืื•ืชื ืœืขืฆืžื• ื‘ืžืฉืš ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืฉื ืชื™ื™ื. ืื ื—ื ื• ืขืจื›ื ื• ื•ื’ื ืขื•ื“ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ื’ื ื‘ืžื”ืœืš ื”ืžืœื—ืžื”, ื•ื ื’ื™ื“ ื”ื ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช ื”ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื•ืช ื•ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื ื—ื–ื•ืจ ืืœื™ืš. ืืช ื”ืชื—ืชื ืช, ื•ื ื•ืœื“ื• ืœืš ื™ืœื“ื™ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ, ื‘ืจื•ืš ื”ืฉื. ื”ื‘ืŸ ื”ื‘ื›ื•ืจ ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘-45'.
ืฉ: ืžื” ืฉืžื•?
ืช: ืฉืžื• ืื‘ืจื”ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื”, ื”ื•ื ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ 45'. ื”ื‘ืŸ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืฉื—ืจื•ืจ ื‘-ื—' ื‘ืื™ื™ืจ,ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื™ืžื™ื ืื—ืจื™ ืงื•ื ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื”, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื•ื ืจื•ืคื. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื ื•ืœื“ ื‘ืŸ ืฉืœื™ืฉื™, ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื ื•ืœื“ื• ืขื•ื“ ืฉืœื•ืฉ ื‘ื ื•ืช, ืฉื™ืฉื” ื™ืœื“ื™ื. ื’ื™ื“ืœื ื• ืื•ืชื ื•ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ืช ื™ืคื” ืžืื•ื“. ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ืืคืจื™ื ื—ื–ืจ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžื ื”ืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ, ื•ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืžืฉืจื“ ื”ื—ื™ื ื•ืš, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืคืงื—. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจืื™ ืœื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ื”ื–ืžื ื” ืœืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื‘-53', ืฉื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื‘ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื, ื’ื ืžื—ืงืจื™ื™ื ืืงื“ืžื™ื™ื ื•ื’ื ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื™ื. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื ืฉื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืืงื“ืžื™ื” ืœืžื“ืขื™ื ื•ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ื”ืจื‘ื”. ื–ื” ื”ื›ืœ ื™ื“ื•ืข. ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉื›ืŸ, ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืงืฉื” ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืช ื‘ื ื ื• ื”ื‘ื›ื•ืจ, ืื‘ืจื”ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื”. ื›ืœ ืื ืชืกืคืจ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืื“ื‘ืจ ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืžืขื˜. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืื™ืฉื™ื•ืช ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ืช, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ืžื•ื›ืฉืจ. ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืฉืชื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื’ื A.B ื•ื’ื B.A.C. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืชื•ื“ื” ื”ืืงื“ืžืื™ืช, ื•ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืชืžื˜ื™ืงืื™ ืœืงื—ื• ืื•ืชื• ืœืชื•ืชื—ื ื™ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืฉื ืืช ื”ื—ื™ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ื›ืœ ื–ื”. ื›ื‘ืจ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืžืœื—ืžืช ืฉืฉืช ื”ื™ืžื™ื ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืคื™ืงื“, ื•ืžืฉื ื”ื•ื ื™ืฆื ื‘ืจื™ื, ื”ื•ื ื ืœื—ื ื‘ืกื™ื ื™. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ืจื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืชื•ื“ื” ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื‘ื ืงื‘ืข. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืจืฆื• ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืžืฉื™ืš ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืœืœืžื•ื“, ืื– ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื”, ื‘ืขืฆื, ื‘ืฆื‘ื, ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื™ื•ืฆื ืžืŸ ื”ื›ืœืœ ืื–, ืฉื ืชื ื• ืœื• ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื–ื” ืคืขื ื‘ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืœื‘ื•ื ืจืง ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืœืžื•ื“. ืขื“ ืฉื‘ื™ื ื•ืืจ 68', ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื‘ืขื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ืื—ืจื™ ืžืœื—ืžืช ืฉืฉืช ื”ื™ืžื™ื ื”ื™ื” ืชืžืจื•ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื ื’ื‘, ื•ื‘ืฉืขืช ื”ืชืžืจื•ืŸ ื”ืชืคื•ืฆืฆื” ืคืฆืฆื” ืฉืœื ื‘ืžืงื•ื, ืื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืœื ื ื›ื•ื ื”, ื•ื”ืจื’ื” ืื•ืชื•. ื ื™ืกื• ืœื”ืฆื™ืœ ืื•ืชื•, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืœืš.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ืžืกืชื“ืจื™ื ืขื ื”ืฉื›ื•ืœ ื”ื–ื”?
ืช: ื–ื” ืงืฉื”, ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืชื’ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืฉื”ื‘ื™ืช ื™ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืฉืœื, ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช. ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ื”ื‘ื ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ื‘ืฆื‘ื, ื•ื”ื ื ืงืจืื• ืžื”ืฆื‘ื ืฉื ื™ื”ื ื”ื‘ื™ืชื”. ืจืฆื™ื ื• ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืฉื”ื ื™ื’ื“ืœื• ื‘ืจื™ืื™ื. ื”ื‘ืช ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ื“ ื™ืœื“ื”, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืช ืฉืžื•ื ื” ื•ื—ืฆื™, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื• ืืช ื–ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื’ื ื”ื™ื ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืชื•ื“ืขื” ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืจื•ืจื”. ื–ื” ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœืงื‘ืœ, ืื‘ืœ ืื™ืŸ ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืœืฆืขืจื ื•.
ืฉ: ื”ืื ื”ืืžื•ื ื” ื”ื“ืชื™ืช ืขื•ื–ืจืช ื‘ืžืงืจื™ื ื›ืืœื”?
ืช: ืœื ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื›ืžื• ืฉืœืคืขืžื™ื ืžืชืืจื™ื ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ. ื”ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื“ืชื™, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืคื ื™ืžื™ืช ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“ ื“ืชื™. ื–ื” ืขื•ื–ืจ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืœื ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืงืœื”, ืื‘ืœ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื–ื” ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ, ื•ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ, ื•ืืคืฉืจ. ื–ื” ืจืง ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ื’ื‘ืชื ืืช ื•ืคืจื•ืคืกื•ืจ ืื•ืจื‘ืš, ื›ืฉื‘ืขืฆื, ืืชื ืžื’ืœื™ื, ืื• ืžื’ื™ืขื™ื ื”ื™ื“ื™ืขื•ืช ืขืœ ื’ื•ืจืœื” ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ืขืœ ื’ื•ืจืœื” ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช ื”ืžื–ืจื— ื‘ื›ืœืœ?
ืช: ืชืจืื™, ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื›ื›ื”, ืฉืฉื ื™ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืงืฉื™ื ื‘ืขื•ืœืžื™ ื”ื™ื•, ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืืช ื–ื” ืœืคื™ ื”ืกื“ืจ ื”ื›ืจื•ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™, ื–ื• ื”ืฉื•ืื”, ืฉืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ . ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืื•ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื‘ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื—ื™ื™ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืขืœื™ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื ืืฆื™ื ื•ืืช ื”ืขืœื™ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืจื•ืข, ื•ืื™ืš ื–ื” ืžืฉืชืœื‘ ื‘ืขื•ืœื, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืงืฉื”. ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ื›ืฉืฉืžืขื ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฉื. ื”ืจื™ ืื ื™ ืžื›ื™ืจื” ืขืฉืจื•ืช, ืขืฉืจื•ืช, ืขืฉืจื•ืช ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื ื ืจืฆื—ื•. ืื ืžื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ืจื—ื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ืื ื—ื‘ืจื™ื, ื™ื“ื™ื“ื™ื ื•ืžื›ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ื“ื™ื“ื™ื. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ืœื ื“ื‘ืจ ืืžื•ืจืคื™ ื”ืฉื•ืื”, ืืœื ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืœืขื™ื ื™, ื•ืคืชืื•ื ื”ื ื ืขืœืžื•, ื”ื ืื™ื ื. ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœ ืืคืจื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื”ื›ืจืชื™, ืจืง ืžืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื• ื•ื–ื”ื•. ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืžืœื—ืžื” ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœื›ืืŸ ืงืฆืช ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ืžืื•ื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืฉืœื•, ื‘ื ื™-ื“ื•ื“ ืฉื‘ืจื—ื• ืœืจื•ืกื™ื”. ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื ื ืกืคื• ืฉื ืžืงื•ืจ, ืžืจืขื‘ ืื• ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื”, ื•ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื—ื–ื™ืงื• ืžืขืžื“, ืฉื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš ืœืืจืฅ. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืขื™ืงืจ, ืขืฆื ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืงืจื” ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื–ื”, ื–ื” ืงืฉื”. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืฉื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ืชื•ืœื“ื•ืช ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืงืจื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™, ืฉื–ื” ื”ืฉื•ืื”, ื•ื”ืงืžืช ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ. ื”ื ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ื™ื ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื, ื•ื”ื ื›ื•ืœื ืงืจื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™. ืืช ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืžืกืคืจืช...
ืฆื“ ืฉืžื™ื ื™:
ื‘ื‘ื™ืช, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื‘ื™ืชื ื• ื›ืืŸ ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขืœ ื”ืฉื•ืื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืขืžื“ื” ืžืื—ื•ืจ. ื”ืžื•ื“ืขื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจื” ืœืขื ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ืฉื™ื—ืช ื™ื•ืžื™ื•ื, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืœื ื›ืœ ื™ื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืจืงืข. ืื‘ืœ, ื›ื ื’ื“ ื–ื”, ื”ืงืžืช ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื”, ืฉื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืชื”ื™ื” ืžื“ื™ื ื” ืจืื•ื™ื”. ื”ืœื•ื•ืื™ ื•ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืจืื•ื™ื”. ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื•ืงืžื” ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ืคืงื•ืœื˜ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ ืœืจืคื•ืื”, ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื—ืฉืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“, ืžืื•ื“, ื‘ืขืฆื ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืจืคื•ืื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื– ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื™ ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื’ื ื”ืฉืœื™ืฉื™. ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ื”ืขื™ืงืจ ืœื”ืงื™ื ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื•ืœื—ื ืš ื‘ืขืฆืžื™, ื•ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื™ืœืš ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ืœื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ื•ื‘ืืžืช ืœื—ื ืš ืื•ืชื, ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืœื ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”, ืืœื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื”ืคื•ื˜ื ืฆื™ืืœ ืฉื™ืฉ ืืฆืœ ืืคืจื™ื ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœืชืช ืœื• ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™, ืขืœ-ื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืชื•ื›ืŸ ื—ื™ื™ื ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœื”ืงื™ื ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื›ืœ ืื•ืชื ื”ื‘ืชื™ื ืฉื ื—ืจื‘ื•. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืชืžื™ื“ ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืขื ื”ืชื•ื“ืขื” ืœืฉื•ืื”. ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืื ื™ ืืกืคืจ ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœืฉื•ืื” ืขืœ ื‘ื ื™ ืื‘ืจื”ื. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืŸ ื—ืžืฉ-ืขืฉืจื” ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉืคื˜ ืื™ื™ื›ืžืŸ. ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ื™ืชื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืงืคืฅ ื›ื™ืชื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ. ื›ื›ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืชืœืžื™ื“ ืžืกื•ื“ืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ืื– ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ืœืš ืœื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืกืคืจ, ืืœื ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื‘ื•ืง ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืœื™ื“ ื”ืจื“ื™ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื•ืขื‘ืจื• ืฉื. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืื•ืชื• ืœื ื’ื“ ืขื™ื ื™, ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ืฆืขื™ืจ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื”ืจื“ื™ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉืžื•ืข ื›ืœ ืžื™ืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืขื“ื•ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืžืฉืคื˜ ืื™ื™ื›ืžืŸ. ื–ื” ืชืคืก ืžืงื•ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžืื•ื“, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ืฉืœ ื”ืชื™ื™ืคื—ื•ืช ืืœื ืฉืœ ื–ืขื–ื•ืข ืขืžื•ืง ื•ืกืœื™ื“ื” ืžื”ืจื•ืข. ื–ื” ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ื‘ื ื” ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ืช ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™ื™ื ืฉืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœืชืช ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืฉื›ืœื”, ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื•ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ืžืกื™ืจื•ืช ืœืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื•ื›ื•' ืขื“ ื›ืžื” ืฉืืคืฉืจ. ืื‘ืœ, ื”ืฉื•ืื” ืชืžื™ื“ ืขืžื“ื” ื‘ืจืงืข.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ืืชื ื”ื’ื‘ืชื ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืคื™ืฆื•ื™ื™ื, ื•ืฉื‘ื’ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื”...
ืช: ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืฉื•ื ืกืคืง ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ, ืœื ืฆืœ ืฉืœ ืกืคืง ืžืฉืชื™ ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช. ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ื”ืื—ืช ื”ื™ื โ€“ "ื”ืจืฆื—ืช ื•ื’ื ื™ืจืฉืช"? ืฉื”ื ื’ื ื‘ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื”, ืื– ื”ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืขื•ื“ ืœืจืฉืช ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ? ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื™, ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืžื“ื™ื ืช ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื–ืงื•ืงื” ืœื›ืกืฃ, ื•ื”ื”ื•ื•ื” ื•ื”ืขืชื™ื“ ื”ื ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ืกื ื˜ื™ืžื ื˜ื™ื. ืจืื™ืชื™ ื‘ื–ื” ืกื ื˜ื™ืžื ื˜ื™ื, ื›ื™ ืืฃ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืœื ื™ืงื•ื ืœืชื—ื™ื™ื” ืื ืื ื™ ืœื•ืงื—ืช ืื• ืœื ืœื•ืงื—ืช ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ. ืœื›ืŸ, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืืคืจื™ื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืžืจืฆื” ื‘ืžื•ืกื“ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™, ื›ืžื• ื›ืœ ื”ืžื•ืจื™ื ื•ื›ืœ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื”ื ืื• ืžืฉืจื•ืช ืžืžืฉืœืชื™ื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ื•ืช ืื• ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžื•ืจื™ื ื‘ืžื•ืกื“ื•ืช ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื™ื, ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืคื ืกื™ื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื”ื›ืฉืจื” ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™. ืœื›ืŸ, ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœื”ื•ื›ื™ื— ืฉืขื‘ื“ืชื™, ื•ืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื ื’ื™ื“, ืืช ืื•ืชื ื”ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื—ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืชืช, ืฉื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœื•, ื•ื’ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ื‘ื™ืงืฉืชื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ. ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืฉื•ื ืกืคืง ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœืงื‘ืœ. ืื‘ืœ, ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื–ื” ืจืฆื™ื ื•, ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืืช ื–ื”, ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืื•ื“ ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืงื™ื ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ื•ืœืชืช ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ื•, ื•ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช ื”ื™ื•ื ื’ื ืœื ื›ื“ื™ื ื•, ืœื ืขืœ-ืžื ืช ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืืช ืจืžืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื. ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ืžืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื”ืจื•ื•ื—ื ื•, ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ืžืฉื ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืงื™ื ืืช ืžื” ืฉื”ื—ืจื™ื‘ื•. ืขื“ ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืืช ื–ื” ืชืžื™ื“ ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ื”ื™ื•ื ืžืฉืคื—ื•ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช, ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื”ื™ื•ื ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืืจื‘ืขื” ื ื›ื“ื™ื, ืื– ื–ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœื’ื“ืœ ืื•ืชื ื•ืœื ื‘ืžื•ืชืจื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ, ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ืœืชืช ืœื”ื ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื–ื” ืขื•ืœื” ื›ืกืฃ. ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื”ื, ื–ื” ืœื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœื‘ืœื•ืช, ืืœื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืงื™ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ื›ื•ืœื ืœืžื“ื•, ื›ื•ืœื ืœื•ืžื“ื™ื, ื”ื ื”ืงื™ืžื• ื‘ืชื™ื, ื•ื’ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืขืจื›ื™ื, ื‘ืจื•ืš ื”ืฉื.
ืฉ: ืื™ืš ื”ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœืš ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื?
ืช: ื–ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืื•ื“, ืฉื’ื ืื ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืฉื•ื ืื•ืคืŸ ืœื, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ืชืงื•ืžืžื ื• ื ื’ื“ ื”ื”ืชืงื•ืžืžื•ืช ื ื’ื“ ื”ืคื™ืฆื•ื™ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ, ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื–ื” ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื ืกืขื ื• ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื”, ื•ืœื ื ืกืขื ื• ืœืคื•ืœื™ืŸ. ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขืžื™ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืืคืจื™ื, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื›ื™ืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืืช ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื•ืื’ื‘, ื”ื•ื ื’ื ื™ื“ืข ืคื•ืœื ื™ืช ื•ื™ื™ื“ื™ืฉ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื›ื™ืจ ื‘ืืžืช ืžื‘ืคื ื™ื ืืช ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื›ื™ ืฉืžื•ื ื”-ืขืฉืจื” ืฉื ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื—ื™ ื‘ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ. ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ: ืœื™ ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืืช ื—ื•ืจื‘ืŸ ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืžื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืคื•ืœื™ืŸ, ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื ื ืกืข. ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืžื ื•, ื•ื”ื–ืžื™ื ื• ืื•ืชื•. ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื”ื–ืžื™ื ื• ืื•ืชื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขืžื™ื ืœื”ืจืฆื•ืช, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื“ืข ื’ื ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช.
ืฉ: ื•ืžื” ืื™ืชืš? ืื ื™ ื’ื-ื›ืŸ ืœื ื ืกืขืชื™ ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืคืขื ืื—ืช ืื ื™ ื ืกืขืชื™ ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช ืžืฉื•ื•ื™ืฆืจื™ื” ืขื“ ืœื”ื•ืœื ื“, ื›ื™ ืื—ืช ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ื”ื•ืœื ื“ ื‘ืฉืœื™ื—ื•ืช ืขื ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื”, ืื– ื‘ืืชื™ ืžืฉื•ื•ื™ืฆืจื™ื”, ื•ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช ื ืกืขื” ื‘ื“ืจืš ื”ื–ืืช ืขืœ-ื™ื“ ื”ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืก, ืœื›ืŸ ืื ื™ ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื•ืชื•. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื”. ืืช ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืœืžื”? ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืจืฆื™ืชื™, ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ื‘ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื•ืช ื•ื’ื ืื—ืจ-ื›ืš, ืœื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืœื›ืช ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘, ืœืจืื•ืช ืื ืฉื™ื ื•ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘, ื’ื ืืชื” ื”ื™ื™ืช ื‘ืžืขืœ ื”ื–ื”? ื ื•ืคื™ื ื™ืฉ ื™ืคื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ื•ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืื•ืชื, ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื”ืืžืช, ื”ื ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ื ื•ืคื™ื ื™ืคื™ื ื’ื ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ื.
ืฉ: ื•ืžื” ื”ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœืš ืœืกืคืจื•ืช ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืœืฉืคื” ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช?
ืช: ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืžืื•ื“ ืกืคืจื•ืช ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช.
ืฉ: ื’ื ื”ืขื›ืฉื•ื•ื™ืช?
ืช: ืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ืžืขื˜ ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ืฉ ืกืคืจ ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ืื•ืชื• ืื ื”ื•ื ื‘ื ืœื™ื“ื™. ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœื—ืคืฉ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืขื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื•ื“ืื™ ืขื•ื“ ื”ื™ื•ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ืžืืฉืจ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช, ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื–ื• ืฉืคืช ื”ืื ืฉืœื™, ื•ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ. ืคื” ื•ืฉื ืื ื™ ืœื•ืงื—ืช ืœื™ ืกืคืจ ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ื•ืื ื”ืฉืคื” ื”ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื”, ืื ื™ ื ื”ื ื™ืช ืžืŸ ื”ืฉืคื” ื•ืœื ืจืง ืžื”ืชื•ื›ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืฉื™ื™ืš ืœื ืืฆื™ื. ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืžืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื™ื” ืžื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ืžื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ ื–ื” ืžื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”. ื›ื™ ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืืฆืœื™ ืื™ืฉื™ืช ื–ื” ื—ืœืง ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ื—ื™ื™, ืžืžืฉ ื—ืฉื•ื‘, ื•ื‘ืจืืฉ ื•ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ื”ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช, ืฉืื™ืŸ ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืฉืžื’ื™ืข ืœื–ื”, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื—ื“ ืื• ืฉื ื™ื™ื ื›ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ, ืœื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื›ืœืœื™.
ืฉ: ืœืžืฉืœ ื›ืฉื‘ื™ืจื ื‘ื•ื™ื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ ืœื ื’ืŸ ืืช ื•ืื’ื ืจ, ืื™ืš ื”ื’ื‘ืช?
ืช: ื•ืื’ื ืจ ืœื ืื™ื›ืคืช ืœื™, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืื•ืชื•, ื–ื” ื›ืœ ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ.
ืฉ: ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืื™ื›ืคืช ืœืš ืฉื ื™ื’ื ื• ืื•ืชื•?
ืช: ืœื. ืจืืฉื™ืช ื›ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื ืืฆื™, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืฉื—ืช, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื’ื•ืขืœื™ ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืื ื˜ื™ืฉืžื™, ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืืช ื›ืœ ื–ื”, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ืขื–ืจื• ืœื•. ื›ืœ ื”ืฉืงืคืช ืขื•ืœืžื• ื”ื™ื ื–ืจื” ืœื™, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื™ื ื–ืจื” ืœื™ ืœื ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ื‘ื–ื” ืืช ื”ื ืืฆื™ื. ื”ื•ื ื˜ื™ืคื•ืก ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ืก ื‘ืขื™ื ื™, ื•ืœืžื–ืœื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืฉืœื•. ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืœืžื–ืœื™, ื›ื™ ืžื™ ืฉืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืฉืœื•, ื•ื™ื•ื“ืข ืขืœื™ื•, ื–ื” ืžืคืจื™ืข ืœื• ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืฉืœื•, ื”ื™ื ืžื ื•ืคื—ืช ืžื“ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื”ืคืชื˜ื™ื•ืช ื”ื–ืืช, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื—ื•ื“. ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื”ื ืชืงืœื™ื˜ื™ื ืฉืœื•, ื ืชื ื• ืœื™ ืžืชื ื”, ืื ื™ ืฉืžืจืชื™, ื•ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉื™ื›ื” ืœื ืœื”ืชืœื”ื‘ ืžืžื ื•. ืื‘ืœ, ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ืชื ื’ื“ืชื™ ืฉื ื™ื’ื ื• ืืช ื•ืื’ื ืจ. ืื ื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืกืข ืœืจืžืืœืœื”, ืœื ืฉืื ื™ ืžืชื ื’ื“ืช ืœื‘ื•ื ืœื™ื“ื™ ื”ืกื›ื ืขื ื”ืคืœืฉืชื™ื ืื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืœืงืง, ืืช ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ืช. ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืชื ื’ื“ืช ืฉื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉื ื™ืœืžื“ื• ืœื ื’ืŸ ืขืœ ืคืกื ืชืจ, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื ืกื•ืข, ืื ื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื™ื’ืŸ ื•ืื’ื ืจ, ืจื™ื›ืืจื“ ืฉื˜ืจืื•ืก ืคื•ื›ื˜ื•ื•ื ื’ืจ ืžื” ืื™ื›ืคืช ืœื™, ื–ื” ืœื ืื™ื›ืคืช ืœื™.
ืฉ: ื—ื ื”, ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžืกื™ื™ืžื™ื ืืช ื”ืจืื™ื•ืŸ, ื”ืื ื™ืฉ ืขื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืช ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืžืกื•ืจ ืœื“ื•ืจื•ืช ื”ื‘ืื™ื, ืœื ื›ื“ื™ื™ืš, ืœื ื™ื ื™ื™ืš ื”ืจื‘ื™ื?
ืช: ื›ืŸ. ืื ื™ ืื’ื™ื“ ืœืš, ืœื™ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ืขื ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ืžืื•ื“ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื™, ื•ื”ืžื›ื” ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœื ื• ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื”ืฉื•ืื” ืื™ืŸ ืœืชืืจ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืืช ื’ื•ื“ืœื”. ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ืื™ืฉื™ืช ืขื ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืœื™ ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ืช ืื™ื ื ื• ืขื ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื–ื” ืขื•ื“ ืื—ื“ ื”ืขืžื™ื. ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื›ืœ ื‘ื ื™-ื”ืื“ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ืื ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื”, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืžื” ืฉื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ื”ื•ื ื™ืคืจื—. ื›ืžื• ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ื’ื ืืช ื”ืฉื›ื ื™ื ืฉืœื™, ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื ื‘ื ื™ ืžืฉืคื—ืชื™, ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ืื—ืจืื™ืช ืœืžืฉืคื—ืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ืœืื—ืจื™ื. ื–ื” ืœื ืื•ืžืจ, ืฉืื ื™ ืฉื•ื ืืช ืืช ื”ืฉื›ื ื™ื, ืืœื ืœื”ื™ืคืš. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืœื›ืœ ื”ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื•ื”ื ื›ื“ื™ื ืจื•ื—ื‘ ื•ืื•ืคืง ืื ื•ืฉื™ ืจื—ื‘ ื›ื›ืœ ื”ืืคืฉืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืฉื”ื ื™ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื•ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื‘ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ืขืœ ื–ื” ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืชืช ืชื•ื›ืŸ. ืื ื™ ืžืชื‘ื™ื™ืฉืช ืขืœ ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืข ืฉืงื•ืจื” ื›ืืŸ, ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืœืขืฆืžื ื•, ืœื ืจืง ืžื” ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื ืœื ื• ื”ืื•ื™ื‘ื™ื, ืืœื ืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืœืขืฆืžื ื•. ืขืœ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืžืชื‘ื™ื™ืฉืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื•ืžืฆื˜ืขืจืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืขืœ ื–ื”, ืฉืœืฆืขืจื™, ื—ืœืง ืœื ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉืœ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ ืืจืฅ-ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื’ื ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื ืืžื ื™ื ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ, ื”ื ืื™ื ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืžื” ื–ื” ื™ื”ื“ื•ืช, ืขืœ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืžืฆื˜ืขืจืช. ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉืžืฆืืฆืื™ื ื• ื™ื”ื™ื• ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืฉื™ื“ืขื• ืœื”ืขืจื™ืš ืืช ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ืฉื‘ื, ื•ืœืคืชื— ืื•ืชื• ื”ืœืื”. ื–ื” ืœื ืžืชื•ืš ื–ืœื–ื•ืœ ืื• ืฉื ืื” ืฉืœ ืื—ืจื™ื, ืืœื ืจืง ืžืื”ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ, ืจืง ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”.
ืฉ: ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ืžื•ื“ื™ื ืœืš.
ืช: ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื”.
Testimony of Channah (Pinchover) Uhrbach, born in Breslau, Germany, 1918, regarding her experiences in Cologne, Berlin, Breslau, her aliya to Eretz Israel, 1939 and more Life before the war; education; Nazi rise to power; economic boycott; "Nuremberg" laws, 1935; opening of the liberal Jewish school; studying Hebrew; life in Moravska-Ostrava including agricultural labor; deportation of Jews to Sachsenhausen; murder of Jews in the camp and sending their ashes to their families; escape to Cologne; life in Cologne including training by Bachad (Brit Chalutzim Datiim); choosing of children in Blakenese for legal immigration to Eretz Israel with certificates (visas for Eretz Israel); life in Cologne including Kristallnacht; breaking of show windows in shops and destruction of the synagogue; escape to Berlin; escape to Breslau; arrest of her father and her father's deportation to Buchenwald; release of her father; obtaining visas with help from friends from England; her father's aliya to Eretz Israel with a certificate; obtaining a tourist visa to Eretz Israel with help from Francis Foley, the British spy later recognized as a "Righteous Among the Nations"; escape to Vienna. Aliya to Eretz Israel, 1939; her son's death during military service.
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Urbach Pinchover Channah
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Moshal Repository, Yad Vashem Archival Collection